the dog one is a nightmare of powers

i made a secondary blog to talk about all my cherubplay bs and that pretty much sums it up this aint no fancy shindig 

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also feel bad for the asks/replies i have missed while away, sorry this is a secondary account about an obscure rp website, so i don't keep on top of it 😅 but eh i will try to answer asks more consistently, not that i particularly expect any

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Have Not been on top of like, new QOL improvements to the site since I haven't been as active recently, but just realized that it SEEMS that drafts you've written in one browser/device carries over?

What a great addition! I write on the go on my phone a lot, but am more productive/can focus more on the computer, so it's nice to be able to stop/start/change devices without a middleman a la docs

EDIT: confirmed lol since it took another 2 seconds, great feature

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oh yeah, my ass is still around on this site. life has made me less active recently, BUT i am still around using this place despite myriad frustrations that i've expressed in the past

just highkey wanted to express that i DO appreciate the work that goes into the site, despite those frustrations. i realized i popped up in the tag after AGES and it was negative, but like in the time since i last posted more-or-less i've definitively found worthwhile RP on the site ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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different anon, can confirm the users online track tabs open because I went through and opened a ton of my prompts to filter out what I wanted to bump and i watched the number get smaller by one with each tab i closed. so maybe someone was tab hoarding and finally cleaned out their list. kind of a shame because i was sitting here thinking 'oh boy, it sure is active, what a good time to bump'

Well you heard it here first, folks; unofficially confirmed that this is tracking tabs open, rather than accounts online!

I was thinking about doing a similar test lol, just haven't had enough time/a strong enough inclination, I just happened to see a big drop in the online counter this week and couldn't help but wonder... Because same, I kinda thought the number of users was growing, or that I was at least coming in during high traffic times or something :')))

IDK, maybe it wasn't one user tab-hoarding, and just a collective tab-hoarding that gets reset when something or other refreshes. I have, no idea how a site runs or what goes into it, so I've got no clue!

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I've noticed the average number of users online drop a few times. I think there's some kinda leak, or maybe they track number of windows open rather than devices or accounts? I remember last time it got up to almost 800, then when the site went down and came back it dropped down to 250-300 again. And started steadily increasing over several weeks again.

Oh interesting, I hadn't thought of that, but it does kinda make sense.

I haven't noticed it before now, I always assumed it would mean 'accounts' online, which... I guess it's sort of meant to indicate, but your average RPer tends to multitab a lot lol

I guess that's a little disappointing, I lowkey thought that maybe the site's userbase was growing and we might see some fresh content adlfkjds;j

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Anyone else notice that the number of people online has abruptly cut in half this week? What happened lol

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made that post to vent the other day but it is a little validating to see all these anons saying 'yeah we can all leave any time but we still have like feelings about it' has been nice lol

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HATE the ghosting culture on this website, gives me so much anxiety whenever a partner just goes completely silent out of the blue. Personally, since people dipping is SUCH a problem on here, I think it would be polite to at least send a message to say you're busy, part of the time... I never hold it against anyone individually, since I know shit happens, and there are plenty of times that I've suddenly dropped off on someone for a bit. I'm not perfect, I've ghosted entirely by mistake, and I know that happens too. But if it's more than a week, I try to send a quick message to let them know, because I hate the way it makes me feel to be on the receiving end.

I just never know what's going on with people here, because they're all so afraid to talk to each other. And I get it. The one time you think communication might be a good idea, the person on the other end is obsessed w anonymity and hates ooc and disconnects. Then you decide, maybe I should keep quiet, and you get people that WANT communication, and freeze up and ghost the entire thread because they're scared to message you for even the most minor of clarifications. I've saved so many threads, chiming in with a suggestion or clarification when a regular partner suddenly freezes up, but I wish taking that initiative didn't risk a D/C for the crime of trying to collaborate, instead of read minds.

I hate it! I wish you could ask someone if they're busy for your peace of mind, like a normal person, without running the risk of people thinking you're clingy and need to touch grass. I've put HOURS of my time and emotional investment in this, and am looking forward to corresponding with you! If we have been messaging daily for weeks, I'm worried on a human level, when you just suddenly disappear! And not for nothing, but it hurts my feelings!

I love this hobby, I don't care about reading/writing fic and I never have, I like connecting to someone who shares my same passions for a character and a concept and the joy of writing, but this site is just a minefield of people that seem to hate it for some damn reason

[msparp-hell]

as much as i am pro-anonymity and think anyone should be able to use it or disconnect as they like... yeah. it does suck. i love figuring out shit i can tweak just slightly to make my rp partner's experience a lot better and things like that, but when people just stonewall it and dc immediately... it's a little sad lmao

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dgmr, i love the anonymous nature of the site as much as the next guy, i just hate the way ppl have decided being anonymous also means that there can’t be certain types of decency, either. 

i get that anon means that every experience is a roll of the dice, but there’s just a community culture of ‘anon=cut and run, and getting on a high horse when people don’t just accept that quietly’ that really makes it so frustratingly impossible to discuss other shortcomings of the whole experience! we could be anonymous, and have a better experience, but there’s only a weird cliquey discord server for ppl to chase clout in and nothing else to come to any sort of consensus at all which, sucks lol

plus fostering an rp relationship leads to more fulfilling rps overall and i feel like the short-term satisfaction that everyone on this site has gotten used to has completely obliterated that idea. like, my best rp relationships are on-going, years long relationships, which i gathered through cherubplay and have NEVER managed to achieve using cherp :’) 

ur right, it is sad, like... getting through the getting to know you phase can be harrowing, but then you learn over time all of those things that your partner prefers and delights to you directly ABOUT when you know to include in an rp, and it is so much more rewarding than anxiously being in a ghost or be ghosted culture all the time, there’s SO much resentment in this community and i just dont get it :’))

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HATE the ghosting culture on this website, gives me so much anxiety whenever a partner just goes completely silent out of the blue. Personally, since people dipping is SUCH a problem on here, I think it would be polite to at least send a message to say you're busy, part of the time... I never hold it against anyone individually, since I know shit happens, and there are plenty of times that I've suddenly dropped off on someone for a bit. I'm not perfect, I've ghosted entirely by mistake, and I know that happens too. But if it's more than a week, I try to send a quick message to let them know, because I hate the way it makes me feel to be on the receiving end.

I just never know what's going on with people here, because they're all so afraid to talk to each other. And I get it. The one time you think communication might be a good idea, the person on the other end is obsessed w anonymity and hates ooc and disconnects. Then you decide, maybe I should keep quiet, and you get people that WANT communication, and freeze up and ghost the entire thread because they're scared to message you for even the most minor of clarifications. I've saved so many threads, chiming in with a suggestion or clarification when a regular partner suddenly freezes up, but I wish taking that initiative didn't risk a D/C for the crime of trying to collaborate, instead of read minds.

I hate it! I wish you could ask someone if they're busy for your peace of mind, like a normal person, without running the risk of people thinking you're clingy and need to touch grass. I've put HOURS of my time and emotional investment in this, and am looking forward to corresponding with you! If we have been messaging daily for weeks, I'm worried on a human level, when you just suddenly disappear! And not for nothing, but it hurts my feelings!

I love this hobby, I don't care about reading/writing fic and I never have, I like connecting to someone who shares my same passions for a character and a concept and the joy of writing, but this site is just a minefield of people that seem to hate it for some damn reason

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here's a useful tip: you might need to log out/log back in to see ur chats

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Lmao, exactly.... Man, I remember pre-cherubplay, when it was just Trollmegle, and at the time the forums were an invaluable resource. The forums were where I made a lot of good roleplay connections, because you were able to cash in on the quick chat-format connections made on the site, which dropped connections all the time, or put out/search for prompts in a paragraph format, before there was the cherp/mxrp dichotomy we have now.

Forums are good!!!!!

Before I started using Cherp and the modern web format condensed everything into maybe five Social Media Websites, forums were the best way to find roleplay, and the community that sprung up was often rife with drama, but at least there was more camaraderie and casual socialization going on as well. There was accountability, but being able to build a reputation around your preferences and therefore find more fulfilling writing partners doesn't mesh with the anon-only style that has suddenly become the ONLY way for us to pair up. It wasn't always like that!

Don't get me wrong, I like the anon format, I like being able to try new things or take a little break from an established thread guilt-free, without worrying about specific consequences, but I'm also never able to choose to build from the things that I create. Not unless we're both verified, and my partner isn't one of the ones that hates being talked to ooc, y'know?

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I'm curious if a forum or something along those lines might be in the cards for cardinal, down the road... Great place for site news, downtime notifications, and missed connections, first of all. Good potential for maybe starting to build a roleplay COMMUNITY, instead of a bunch of anonymous individuals quietly seething at each other because the site is ghost or be ghosted, a lot of the time.

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I feel the need to clarify that I don't love the way that so much of the tag is people fighting on burner blogs, personally I and I think many other people just made a secondary blog because it's a normal way of dividing up your interests on Tumblr, and I think a lot of people post much more personal and nonconstructive type vent posts here because they're using their blog like a blog, and then tagging things that don't necessarily need to be shared beyond the scope of that blog and their followers. Maybe they forget it's a tag and not their dashboard, you see it in every content tag, people that tag with something that makes you wonder why they thought other people needed to read this

I've made vent posts that I've just drafted or not tagged, if I didn't just delete them, and anything I really have to say in depth I discuss in DMs, though I won't deny letting my frustration slip into actual criticisms that I have tagged

What drives me crazy is the weird way that people assign fucked up assumptions to others, though. Like every pal I've ever made on Tumblr has had like 3+ blogs that they've kept separate for varying reasons, to varying degrees, with nothing untoward about it.

The biggest initial draw of the anonymous nature of trollplay/cherubplay, as far as I understood, was that you didn't have to feel anxious. If you were self conscious about your writing, or wanted to try writing something silly, indulgent, or kinky without judgment, you didn't have to have your name on it. If you wanted to end a chat you didn't have to worry about someone stalking/harassing you, as much, anyway.

I agree that some people need to relax, but I think it's odd to suddenly say, when using a site built ground up with anonymity in mind, that if you want to stay anonymous you're shady. I think the way everyone is constantly suspicious and assuming that people on this site are using it for the absolute worst thing they can imagine is why everyone is so defensive, and people want to remain anonymous because they don't want to be branded with The P Word when the worst thing they are is a rule breaker on an RP site

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I think that it's fine to control your own anonymity. But there's a cherpcord run by fans that isn't even allowing you to link toyhouse and f-list links. They don't let you talk about your rps in case you could be identified. Forcing other people to be anonymous and treating anonymity like it's a moral good instead of something that's completely neutral is... Fucking bizarre actually. It's nobody else's business how anonymous I choose to be. My identity and anonymity is mine to control.

As an addendum I know that Thell specifically doesn't like f-list, because it allows underage characters. He's gone on record saying he thinks that sort of content is gross.

Very unprofessional for someone on staff. Saying something is gross vs saying it's against the rules is very different.

And I know he is in at least one of the fan-run cherpcords and still has sway over the community. So not allowing f-list and toyhouse links might have less to do with anonymity and more to do with Thell's spite. Which is worse, actually. But I decided to give them the benefit of the doubt.

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Ah see I thought there might be community drama going on that I wasn't seeing, I have no idea what's going on with these cherpcord alts that are popping up.

I was more responding to people implying that wanting to stay anon was suspicious while using the language of my post, but it really is no surprise that there are people going the other way. The same people that assume you want to move off-site for illegal activities, I'm guessing, there's just no winning here lol

Big same though, like, I just want to be able to, as a reasonable adult, pick and choose who I remain anonymous with, without having to moralize everything or write an essay on my intentions, which basically boil down to "talk about writing with another adult" and not this complicated network of moral degradation that so many people seem to be imagining

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I feel the need to clarify that I don't love the way that so much of the tag is people fighting on burner blogs, personally I and I think many other people just made a secondary blog because it's a normal way of dividing up your interests on Tumblr, and I think a lot of people post much more personal and nonconstructive type vent posts here because they're using their blog like a blog, and then tagging things that don't necessarily need to be shared beyond the scope of that blog and their followers. Maybe they forget it's a tag and not their dashboard, you see it in every content tag, people that tag with something that makes you wonder why they thought other people needed to read this

I've made vent posts that I've just drafted or not tagged, if I didn't just delete them, and anything I really have to say in depth I discuss in DMs, though I won't deny letting my frustration slip into actual criticisms that I have tagged

What drives me crazy is the weird way that people assign fucked up assumptions to others, though. Like every pal I've ever made on Tumblr has had like 3+ blogs that they've kept separate for varying reasons, to varying degrees, with nothing untoward about it.

The biggest initial draw of the anonymous nature of trollplay/cherubplay, as far as I understood, was that you didn't have to feel anxious. If you were self conscious about your writing, or wanted to try writing something silly, indulgent, or kinky without judgment, you didn't have to have your name on it. If you wanted to end a chat you didn't have to worry about someone stalking/harassing you, as much, anyway.

I agree that some people need to relax, but I think it's odd to suddenly say, when using a site built ground up with anonymity in mind, that if you want to stay anonymous you're shady. I think the way everyone is constantly suspicious and assuming that people on this site are using it for the absolute worst thing they can imagine is why everyone is so defensive, and people want to remain anonymous because they don't want to be branded with The P Word when the worst thing they are is a rule breaker on an RP site

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Like I’m just some dude trying to roleplay, and I don’t appreciate getting my updates in the form of “here’s my crumbs you stupid piece of shit” tones of voices lol

I know understand and appreciate that they’re doing a difficult thing I can’t do, I get that you’ve got entitled pieces of shit dealing you psychic damage, but I’ve never harassed anyone. Why do I have to come looking for updates while I’m understandably frustrated, and read them like “hey crybaby if you MUST have answers I GUESS i mIGHT tell you it MIGHT take a couple days”

just say, “it might be a couple days”, I don’t need an apology or a timeline or an essay or a dev entry. Just a bare acknowledgement with no Q&A and no undercurrent insulting me for nothing would suffice