Raveneira

Rants, Thoughts, Discussions ect mainly anime but maybe other media occassionally depending on what Im invested in

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I think it makes sense that ikemoto hasn’t made how himawari feels about inojin like in a romantic light type of way or maybe she’s oblivious as well and focusing on her goals and ikemoto makes it weird and these two are only 2 years apart hima(12-13) and inojin(14-15) who is the youngest so people can’t help but to see it’s weird.

Maybe ikemoto will wait until they’re older like doing a shikamaru and Temari thing. It’s obvious inojin likes himawari so again maybe later on himawari will like him around the time and then will confess or something.

That’s the only way I can see it happening I guess.

I think he’s just trying to make her a female Naruto, same way he didnt realize he had feelings for Hinata until it was spelled out to him is the same way Ikemoto probably has Himawari not realize she has feelings for Inojin until their pointed out to her later or somethin.

Or maybe she already knows she likes him but doesnt think Inojin feels the same, maybe she figures he sees her as a lil sister since he’s her brothers friend and has been looking after her this whole time after her whole family pretty much fell apart, so maybe she likes him but thinks its one sided.

Or maybe she really doesnt like him yet but will in the future, but tbh? With Ikemoto’s track record I just dont see him lingering it on, she most likely already does like him and Ikemoto just isnt focusing on it yet because he knows Hima fans would riot if he reduced her to just a love interest, so at the very least Hima is safe for as long as her feelings arent solidified yet, but once they are, hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.

But on the bright side maybe you right and he’ll wait till their older before he actually addresses it which is the best case scenario, lets hope for that 👍

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Himawari canon age right now is 13. Ikemoto forgot he wrote Sumire to say " it been three years". Omnipotence happened in the fall. Months after the chunin exam ended. Himawari birthday was before the chunin exam began. TBV should have started in the fall.

Exactly 😭 we all KNOW this should be the case, but Ikemoto is the one who undercut that by saying Boruto is still 12? If he had no established birthday yet then you could make that argument that well maybe his birthday is just really late, but since he DOES have an established birthday and we know its early in the year [the 3rd month] then claiming he’s still 12 after the chunin exams [which usually doesnt happen early in the year] then your essentially saying that the Chunin exams, based on the weather, happened in March where Spring officially starts, and it happened before the 27th, and all the stuff with Kara and Kawaki and so on all happened within that single month.

This is just if we’re going off the weather, but even if we disregard the sunny weather in the chunin exams and say they just suffered severe climate change that year and it was a warm winter, thats still only a little over 2 danm months time 😭 and then your gonna claim Hima’s 12 muddying the timeline even further!? So what is Boruto now!? He should be 15 and she 13, but if she’s 12, then are you tellin me Boruto’s 14 now? Then that makes Inojin 13.

Istg I hate how little fks Ikemoto gives when it comes to little details like this, because yeah they might be small, but they have a VITAL impact on the story, because a story cannot function without structure, and the TIMELINE OF EVENTS are a CRUCIAL part of that structure.

If Ikemoto neglects to pay attention to that and give careful consideration to making things line up, then the story falls apart.

For example take like the timeline of Naruto becoming a jinchuriki, imagine we didnt get any clarity on when that happened or how much time passed and got contradictory statements like oh Naruto is 12 when the series started but he had Kurama sealed within him 13 years ago, how? Did Minato unseal him from Kushina and into Naruto through the womb? Who knows.

It just breaks the entire foundation and confuses so many things you originally understood when things made SENSE until Ikemoto made them NOT make sense anymore.

So your right, I KNOW thats the way it SHOULD be, but Ikemoto is the one fkin it up cuz according to him, if Hima is 12, then everybody else is 14, and Inojin ia 13, making them literally only have a 1 year age gap instead of 2, and ppl are still callin him pedojin 😭 this shet is a mess Istg.

But yea me personally Im opting to ignore him, everyone is 15, Inojin is possibly 14 if December hasnt passed yet, and Hima is 13, to hell with Ikemoto contradicting things beyond comprehension, I am not gonna wrack my brain arguing with this fandom using his messed up timeline trying to make sense out of the nonsensical.

So yea you aint gotta convince me, Im just saying this is the bs HE put out and what it means if thats what he’s claiming is canon.

Maybe your right and he genuinely forgot, but this isnt the first time the timeline has been muddied by Ikemoto.

Back when Kodachi and Kishimoto were still involved in the early stages, both Kodachi and the anime confirmed it was a 4 year timeskip and that Boruto was 16 in the FF.

But when we actually got to the timeskip under Ikemoto’s complete control now, he made it only a 3 year timeskip instead of 4, and now he ‘maybe’ forgot he made it a 3 year timeskip by claiming Hima is 12, making everyone else 14 instead of 15.

This whole thing is a hot mess fr ._. Next he’s gonna say Kawaki is 21 even tho he’s obviously younger than Ada [19] so he was 18 in NNG hangin around with a buncha 12 yr olds 😭 Im done

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Soooo you know that age question about boruto that was leaked???

Yeah ummm it’s not on the official cite maybe because it started to become controversial and people started to take it as boruto is into “milfs” or he’s a womanizer, he’s a f-boy and etc 🤦🏻

Good, but tbh I wouldn't be surprised if it's eventually officially posted and confirmed cuz Ikemoto is a weirdo like that, they can cover for him now, but eventually it'll come out anyway so I'm not convinced that was a mistake or anything

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Have you seen vjump channel using koi and showed the bsa hug and showed boruto expression and sumire’s which I think is shady to me but okay😒🙄…

Other than biasness, there has to be some other reason on why they’re switching their tactics to promoting bsa more than ever other than favoring them or some type of ship bait. I really haven’t seen ksa, bsu or other boruto ships like Konohamaru/moegi or inohima in short MV.

Like if they are going to promote shipping, at least make some shorts dedicated to the ones who have feelings for a character and highlight them like inojin, Sumire, moegi, Cho Cho?? pretty sure Eida gets promoted??

You referring to this?

For one I dont follow it so no I wasnt aware, but I think I did see these lil short vids on the official twitter accs but I didnt really pay much attention because I saw the agenda bein pushed and wasnt havin it.

Im the kind of person that avoids the things I dont like, only time I’ll look is obviously for arguments sake where I need to do thorough research, but if its just something that happens and I dont need to look into it for anything, then I’ll avoid it.

But since you asked, I’ll go look into it real quick and come back to this post with a more in depth response [Im on my tablet right now, I do better research on my laptop]

But to answer your question yes, normally this sorta thing wouldnt happen, promoters wouldnt hyper fixate on a single pairing as to not alienate the rest of the fanbase, thats just bad business, they tend to ALWAYS play to multiple sides so they can please everyone and keep a wider audience reading rather than just one.

But Boruto is a very different subject, because most of the audience has really dropped it atp where the majority really IS just bsa fans who only care about seeing that ship canon, Im not saying there arent still fans who care about other things and other ships still reading, but they are much smaller and riskier to pander to.

Look at how often bsa fans threaten to drop the series or raise hell if KawaSara or BoruSumi become canon, they have literally threatened to kill Ikemoto if he makes them canon, or even give them one too many moments for their liking, or even moments at all, anytime Ikemoto did something for any other ship that threatened bsa they had a danm fit and went shouting to anyone and everyone officially associated with the series begging them to stop it or give bsa more moments and confirm their feelings etc etc.

So in normal circumstances yes, this would be very abnormal and something they wouldnt do because its bad business, but Boruto truly is a very special case where their only business move IS to pander to them because losing them is not an option, they know what thin skin they have and that upsetting them would just cause a headache they dont wanna deal with.

Now they could easily play up Kawaki and Eida since thats not a threat but they know nobody gives a danm, not even the Japanese community cares about that ship, hell they barely care about BoruSara, its really only the western fanbase thats super invested in Boruto and BoruSara, which is sad when your series/ship is less popular domestically than it is abroad.

So all the more reason why they cant afford to piss them off, because they dont even really have jpn fans lining up supporting the series, they literally HAVE to care about what the western fandom thinks because thats its top supporter, so even though they typically ignore what westerners think or say and prioritize their own home base, if the western fans are the ones carrying the sequel the most, they have no choice but to cater to them.

And the western fans simply dont care enough about the other ships as much as bsa, thats not to say they arent popular or dont have support, but they arent popular enough or have enough support to compete with bsa.

In other words, losing bsu, ksa, kawaada etc fans is an easier loss to take than losing bsa.

Think of it like a big tower, which is the heavier hit, a few bricks thrown through the walls and windows? Or a giant wrecking ball smashing through the entire building?

Thats the situation in a nutshell, BoruSara is just the heavier hit to take, so their doing their best to avoid that because that fandoms crazy and has threatened them numerous times.

In short, this is just the only business move they could make with the best outcome.

Ikemoto hasnt had Mitsuki and Chocho interact once in the entire sequel so what would they even play to? All their panels will be from Gaiden which came out over a decade ago, and KawaAda only have negative panels for them to use which sure maybe they could still make work, but nobody cares enough about them to be invested, they’ll just shrug or roll their eyes since its so unpopular.

InoHima is a surprise tho but understandable, their probably playing it safe cuz of the age gap like they did with ShikaTema, going too hard on a 15 yr old with a 12 year old definitely would’ve raised eyebrows so they kept it subtle, same for shippuden when she 18 and he 15, they knew to keep it lowkey until he was legal when there would be no backlash.

InoHim is probably the same, I dunno why Ikemoto went and said she’s 12 when she should be 13 and made their relationship sound weirder than it is, but maybe she has a late in the year birthday like Inojin [no idea why she has no official birthday yet] so maybe thats why she’s still 12, but even then its still just a weird decision overall, its almost like he’s purposefully trying to make their relationship come off weird, considering how he also said ‘the skies the limit’ in reference to what an acceptable age would be for a 12 yr old Boruto ._. I think Ikemoto is just into weird shit in general, Ada is 19-20 now and hes makin signs of her havin interest in 15 yr old Boruto so this is just a pattern with him.

Anyway if Hima is 12 then Inojin is DEFINITELY only 14 still, but obviously if you hear teen and then 12 it sounds weird, like what does a teenager want with a kid? But again, Ikemoto is just weird so Im not surprised he wouldnt be conscious of how that comes off.

But just because he isnt doesnt mean the promoters arent, they probably see how weird this comes off and opted not to promote it until their more caught up in age where its less weird.

Obviously a 2 year age gap is not bad, Ikemoto cant change Hima’s age, it was established by Kishimoto that Boruto is only 2 years older than Hima, he was 12 and she was 10, all of Boruto’s peers were 12, so its only a 2 year age gap no matter what idiocy Ikemoto spouts now.

He’s never paid attention to the timeline of events, like how Boruto being 12 meant Kawaki could’ve only been in Konoha for a little over 2 months tops. Inojin’s birthday is December 5th, the Boruto movie happened while everyone was 12, so Inojins birthday had to of passed so we know the movie took place definitely after December 5th

If Boruto was still 12 by the end of NNG then that means Kawaki was in Konoha up until before Boruto’s birthday March 27th, so he was there from after December 5th to before March 27th

Now if you wanna get really technical we can narrow it down to even less time tbh, because we see it does snow in Konoha and December is winter time, so if the movie happened in December then it wouldnt have been bright and sunny weather.

By this logic, the Boruto movie actually couldnt have happened any later than March since thats when spring starts kickin in with the type of weather we saw in the movie, meaning if the movie happened in March, and everything in the sequel happened before the 27th, then Kawaki was in Konoha for LESS THAN A MONTH.

You see how muddied the timeline gets because of Ikemoto’s lack of attention to detail in that regard? This is why I cant take his reveal of Hima being 12 seriously, because its just yet another show of how he just does not pay attention to the timeline of events nor makes any effort to stay consistent with it, he just age drops them with zero thought for how it effects the timeline.

But yea, so thats probably why they neglect InoHima, because Ikemoto keeps making it weirder than what it actually is.

But yea I’ll look into the other stuff and get back with you with an updated post.

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I’m sorry but I don’t see how BS can celebrate boruto catching Sarada when it had to make Sarada into a distressed damsel (AGAIN) just to give them a moment

And for what? To show Boruto cares for her? Bruh we already knew that. It still doesn’t prove he has romantic feelings for her when he’s gone and rescued everyone else at some point. Like omg it’s nothing new and borusara just getting Less and Less original.

Thats exactly the problem, its nothing new, we dont gain anything from it, its like Naruto saving Sakura, why would anyone be surprised? He liked her, she was his teammate, so whats special about it?

The reason it was a big deal when Sasuke jumped infront of Naruto and ‘died’ for him because it was unusual for him to do that, he wanted to live to get revenge on his brother, we knew he would protect his comrades, but DIE? And for NARUTO of all ppl? The one who constantly picked fights with him and who he constantly had beef with? Yes, THAT was shocking, for Sasuke to throw away his life and goal of revenge to save Naruto, THAT was a big deal.

But Boruto saving Sarada? When has he NOT saved her? When has he NOT risked his life for her? When was protecting her something he has NOT wanted to do?

This is literally him at the end of the movie, so what the hell is surprising about this? Nobodys impressed, its like seeing Boruto rescue a puppy from a river, is anybody really surprised he’d do that? No, cuz thats what he does, so its boring to watch Boruto just being himself doing what he always does over and over with no mixing it up whatsoever.

You can only ‘OMG! Boruto saved her! Boruto cares!’ So many times before it stops fazing you and your just like ‘yea what else is new? He do anything else? No? Of course he didnt’

And yeah I dunno how they can be happy with it either, but tbh its because they dont care about Sarada individually as a character to begin with, just a prop in the ship to make Boruto look cool and give him OP babies through her Uchiha genes.

I will say this until the end of time because it will never not be true, if Sarada was just Sarada Haruno, daughter of Sakura and some nameless nobody but still Boruto’s teammate and childhood friend, this ship wouldnt be anywhere near as popular as it is now and we all know it. At most, NaruSaku fans would still stand behind them for obvious reasons, but the rest? Yea, they wouldnt even look twice at this ship.

So Sarada being repeatedly reduced to a damsel in distress for Boruto to show how much he cares that literally everyone already knows is not an issue for them, their fine with it, because it validates their belief that Sarada is special to him and he harbors special feelings towards her that he doesnt anyone else, they cling to his very broad concern and worry for her as proof of love, despite Boruto giving the same concern and worry to anyone in her position, and Ikemoto somewhat fed into this belief by making that literally the reason Sarada realized she liked Boruto, because she was worried and concerned about him.

In a way its almost like how Kishimoto trolled SK/anti SS fans in Gaiden making Sarada question who her mother was over her glasses and Karin having similar ones [apparently Karin owns that brand of glasses and literally nobody else wears them, ‘but Sasuke was in a picture next to her so it looked sus’ yea he was standing there stone faced stiff as a board in a GROUP photo that Karin also happened to be a part of, it wasnt like he was hugged up on her or in a solo photo just him and her so the assumption was still stupid regardless]

Anyway, since it was a very obviously stupid assumption by the fanbase who assumed cuz Sarada wore glasses that she couldnt possibly be Sakura’s daughter, Kishimoto made Sarada have the equally stupid assumption for the same reason when anyone in the medical field can tell you that a child can need glasses regardless if the parents need them or not, both my parents wore glasses but I have perfect vision, so yes poor vision CAN be genetic but it doesnt HAVE to be, that was the point of this ridiculous plotline, to show how ridiculous and outrageous this thought process even was.

I feel the same is lowkey bein done by Ikemoto, fans kept insisting Sarada and Borutos concern and worry for one another was evidence of their deep love for eachother, Sarada especially, so Ikemoto played into that by having that literally be the reason she fell for him and realized she liked him, and the reception of it is the same as the whole glasses nonsense, which is how ridiculous that is as a reason for liking him.

But unlike the glasses, Ikemoto doesnt really highlight how ridiculous it is in verse, but they were the ones pushing that narrative to begin with so it’d be weird for them to suddenly be like ‘ew you like him cuz of that?’ But I think thats the point.

Everyone insisting Sarada’s worry and care for Boruto was out of love were representations of the fandom, and then Sarada concluding they were right was him holding up a massive mirror to them showing them their own ridiculous narrative in all its embarrassing and clearly unflattering glory, and they all completely missed the hint.

Now Im not saying thats for sure the intent, just saying it comes off that way when you think about how that was literally the fandoms argument for years and somehow it happened exactly as they been yapping for years? Same way ppl kept yapping about the glasses bein proof Sarada isnt Sakura’s daughter and then Kishimoto makes a whole plot making fun of that exact idea.

For the record I dont agree with this approach at all, I think him playing into that even just for trolling was a bad idea and he should’ve focused on something else [like her fathers past] instead, because doing so just gave antis more ammo, not less.

Same with Ikemoto, Im not praising this cuz the same damage Gaiden did with that plot is the same damage TBV is doing with this whole loving Boruto out of pity plot.

But yea your right, their getting less and less original with every chapter, like we just had a whole arc with Sarada whining about being weak and powerless and unable to help Boruto, she reawakens her MS, finally able to do something, then immediately passes out and Boruto nearly dies while she’s unconscious and he’s gotta be saved by Kawaki instead, meanwhile she’s carried like a sack of potatoes by Mitsuki.

Then we get another whole arc of Sarada whining about not being able to help Boruto but feels like she can now and that helping him will only make her stronger, she recklessly uses her eyes and guess what? She passes out again with her eye explodin this time and is unconscious, leaving Boruto and everyone else to die cuz she failed to be of help to him when they needed her most and they end up being saved by Inojin instead, meanwhile Sarada is carried like a sack of potatoes by Konohamaru this time.

Now we just and I mean JUST starting another arc and its Sarada whining once again about not being able to help Boruto and wanting to be his strength and we’re ALREADY TOLD that she is gonna be targeted and kidnapped by Code ._.

Like at what fkin point is enough enough? Its boring af.

If Kawaki fans can say their tired of all his screentime being him just asking for more power over and over, then it makes no sense why BoruSara fans arent complaining about Ikemoto keep repeating this same bs with them.

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I'll just keep it here and come back if it turns out to be true, which Idk if it will be, but I'm pretty sure Ikemoto is repeating the cycle, like chapter 12 was so good, THEN chapter 24 is even more amazing, so I can see the upcoming chapter 36 being good, and the common thing is ofc Kawaki's moment to shine, so just a bit hope that we get some KawaSara crumbs at this point, or maybe it's just me overlooking into it... Either way, I'm not too hyped for it😭

Well another thing to note is that in NNG KawaSara had a consistent connection with the numbers 8 and 9 with most of their major moments happening in chapters with those numbers [28, 38, 39, 58, 78]

Now in TBV they seem to be having a consistent connection with the numbers 3 and 4 with all their significant interactions thus far happening in chapters with those numbers [4, 13, 33, 34]

Now I dunno if that means anything, BUT I did know in NNG that anytime the numbers 8 or 9 would come around that we would most likely get some ksa content and we did, so since its become a pattern now in TBV for 3 and 4 to for some reason be their number now, then we can expect to see something most likely around chapters 43-44 at the latest, but obviously there could be exceptions where it happens earlier or later on a different number.

Im not saying its ALWAYS gonna happen on number [like for example their moments that happened from 40-42], just saying thats when its most likely TO happen, be it a coincidence or not, its a noticeable pattern nonetheless.

So no worries, your not looking too much into it since I’ve also taken notice to some pretty minor subtle details lol so its not impossible for your intuition to be right, after all another moment of theirs happened in chapter 36 of NNG, so not impossible for one to also happen in 36 of TBV.

After all, there were moments between them in 34 and 35 of NNG as well, and then they also have ones in 34 and 35 of TBV, so I cant rule out that they’ll also get one in 36 like they did in NNG.

But if not then its not the end of the world, we can definitely HOPEFULLY look forward to something happening for sure in either 43 or 44.

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Imagine Ikemoto ends the manga with all of the main romances being open-ended and no confirmation 💀

Tbh? Ikemoto is a big enough bitch to pull that, unable to commit to his romances just like he's unable to commit to his deaths.

He's only able to commit to small random meaningless deaths of ppl nobody cares about, so he'll probably only commit to the most minor pairings nobody cares about as well.

Its the cowardly thing to do, too afraid to commit and accept whatever backlash comes from it, so you dont commit at all and just leave it open, then nobody can be mad right?

So yeah, your probably right, Ikemoto might just take the cowards way out with his ships the same way he does his deaths.

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Have you noticed that most Ino fans hate on all other female characters? Most Ino fans are Boruto series haters.

I dont even pretend to care about what Ino fans think or says, their all a buncha goofys always trying to paint her as some ‘winner’ as if getting a new man and over another who did not want her is some type of major feat and accomplishment, as if settling for Sasuke’s lookalike is something to brag about, if anything I’d be ashamed.

This is why their goofys and why I dont keep up with anything they say, its always ‘Ino won Ino won Ino won’ ok and Kushina won, she married the Hokage and had a child with him whoopty doo

See how stupid that sounds? Its goofy

Oh Sakura and Hinata won because they married the two strongest ppl in the world and the literal saviors of the world and had kids by them, lets all worship these queens.

😭 Its the stupidest mentality ever, yes you want your fave in a good relationship and yes you can be proud of who they married but like can we stop acting like marriage and child bearing is some crowning achievement? This is the exact reason Hinata gets flack because yea cool she married the Hokage and had his kids but ppl wanted to see more for her than just that, a loyal housewife to Naruto whos only screentime is in the kitchen or cleaning.

Then you have Ino fans actin like her marriage to Sai is the greatest feat, but if you bring up how she was bawlin her eyes out over Sasuke’s kill order, only was attracted to Sai because he resembled Sasuke, how Sai actually thought she was ugly which Ino still doesnt know till this day, how her dream world was a world where Sasuke and Sai were fighting over her [meaning she was fine with whichever chose her, or both if she had it her dream way] then your the bad guy.

So dont get me started, I dont hate Ino, but I hate her fans, and if I speak Ima hurt some fellins cuz ppl aint gonna like what I have to say, but if yall wanna brag and act all superior then lets talk about the WHOLE picture and not just the part you wanna brag about.

Buncha goofballs, all of em.

So nah I dont keep up with everything they say, but I know their one of the more annoying fandoms with a massive superiority complex, them, ShikaTema, Boruto stans, Naruto stans, SNS stans, SK fans, NS stans used to be pretty bad too but they’ve quieted down a bit from what I’ve seen, Hinata fans are 50/50, Sakura fans 50/50, Hima fans 50/50, BoruSara fans, and Sarada fans.

Yes I gotta throw Sakura fans under the bus, the OG fandom was more tame and mainly only clapped back at ppl who came for them first, but now? These new gen fans…not all, but alot of these new gen fans are 1 very young, and 2, very immature and toxic with no understanding, or just utter lack of care for fandom etiquette, to the point they’ve become alot like the very thing their fighting against that now its hard to even distinguish them from the other annoying fandoms.

And since a large majority of OG Sakura fans have pretty much moved on, the new gen stans make up the majority now.

So yea, if Im gonna keep it real I gotta keep it real all the way, I aint saying all the fans are like this, Im just saying the very loud portion of those fanbases are insufferable, and Ino fans are one of the main perpetrators.

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I’m sooo tired of the borusara stuff like dang can we see boruto and himawari?! Like they really never had a proper conversation or fought side by side. The fact we’re getting code targeting Sarada like she just messed up the plan and fell unconscious and now she’s getting targeted again?!

Man you and the anon is right, it’s just repetitive of boruto having to always hassle his way to save this girl while she is preaching about wanting to help him for 1000x knowing she’ll go blind which makes him worry even more.

The next minute boruto is going to end up looking like itachi with some danm stress lines on his face if ikemoto keep playing😭

I wished more people would come together and start calling this out instead of blindly appreciating the writing ikemoto is doing.

Thats never gonna happen, but it should.

I get why their dragging out the Hima and Boruto interaction because out of everybody his little sister would know him the best, they have a closer bond than even him and Sarada or him and Shikadai as childhood friends, so if anyone would immediately be able to tell he is her real brother then it’d be his little sister who knew him best.

My issue is the way its being dragged out, its not even realistic.

For example, in the fight against Mamushi, once they all grouped up for the Ada bait plan you would think her and Boruto would be seen fighting together along with everyone else, Hima maybe steals a glance at him here and there, wanting to say something, but cant because Mamushi is a bigger priority.

Then after Mamushi is dealt with, you would think after Inojin wakes up, or even before then, that Hima would call out to Boruto and go over to him to thank him for his help, and lets say Boruto is like sure no problem and gets ready to leave [cuz of what KK told him and to keep Hima from askin questions] but before he does Hima lets him know that even though everyone else believes he did it, she knows theres no way he would do something like that, and even though everyone else is against him, she still wants to help him and is gonna keep working on getting stronger to do so.

And then Boruto leaves and things still play out the same.

Little moments like THAT would enhance things, theres nothing wrong with dragging it out for obvious reasons, but atleast lay breadcrumbs, atleast plant seeds of things building up to get ppl excited for.

But instead all Ikemoto does is just make awkward glances between them noticing eachother, passing comments, Hima even heals him off screen, and now Hima just watches him poof away.

Seriously is that the best you can do? This is a fun mystery and suspense, this is just dry and boring, its like serving someone an empty glass of air and tellin you to drink it 😭 bitch theres nothing in there!

But yeah I agree with you totally, its just the same ol same ol, Ikemoto putting all his chips in one basket with the bsa nonsense failing to realize ppl are sick and tired of it and wanna see LITERALLY ANYTHING ELSE.

Same with Kawaki, ppl complained about Kawaki takin all those Ls and being unrealistically weak so he call himself fixing that by sayin oh he limited but hes getting those limits off so its all good, just to go psyche actually its not enough to beat Jura so he needs more power, the psyche again actually he still overheats and the powers too much for him, resulting in Kawaki constantly going ‘I need more power I need more power’ over and over again to where now ppl are sick of that too ._. Ikemoto LOVES beating dead horses instead of being creative for 5 danm seconds ffs.

And next chapter seems like its gonna be exactly that, damsel in distress Sarada and Kawaki demanding more power again 🤪 cuz thats totally what fans wanna see.

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every chapter is giving borusumi crumbs while all it makes Sarada do is repeat her desire to be boruto's strength and protect him. We got Chocho calling Boruto hot, Sumire giggling in agreement, but Sarada disagreeing Im not even against BSa but I just wish that they had something more solid than empty words. That scene where they stand back to back and face Hidari in like chapter 6-7 something, that is the BSa I want, since I cant see it, I ship what I see, BSu and KSa. BSu got more meaningful moments in half the amt of pages and panels "BSa" gets.

Pretty much yeah, I used the jumpscare analogy before but it really does apply to them, just instead of scares, its ship bait.

You can only SURPRISE! SHIP BAIT! MOMENT! So many times before it stops effecting ppl, same way you can only have so many jumpscares before ppl stop being scared.

If you oversaturate something with jumpscares, eventually ppl stop getting scared and start anticipating it and predicting when they will happen, that when the MC turns around from that camera angle theres gonna be someone standing there or something scary that pops out, so all the shock value is gone and now its just expected.

Same way if you oversaturate Boruto and Sarada just caring about eachother, worrying about eachother, Sarada bein in danger and Boruto protecting/saving her, you can only ‘OMG!!!!’ So many times at the same thing before your just like ‘yeah what else is new? Same ol same ol’

Bsa ‘moments’ have lost their excitement, nobody is phased anymore, nobody is ‘shocked’ when Sarada worries about Boruto and wants to help him, we expect that, nobody is shocked when Boruto saves Sarada or reacts with worry when she’s hurt, we know that already.

If their moments were actually something new and fresh everytime then I would still hate it, but I could atleast see the appeal, but when its the same bs over and over and over again I cant even concede to them having ‘good moments’ when its literally never changing, just repetitive and boring.

This is why BoruSumi and KawaSara have more appeal, their moments have variety, theres always something new and interesting with them no matter how big or small the interaction is, theres always a level of intrigue and expectations for something new and exciting, while with Bsa all you anticipate is more Boruto worry, more whining about wanting to help him, more Sarada damsel in distress, more Boruto havin to save her, rinse and repeat.

Theres no expectations for anything new, we know the formula now, the ‘jumpscare’ is no longer shocking, we know what to expect at this point and guess what? Nobody even knew what the next arc would entail but not a single danm person was shocked that Code would target Sarada to get to Boruto, oh wow, name how many ppl were on the tl going omg we didnt expect something like that to happen ._.

So yeah, this is why BoruSumi and KawaSara will always be objectively better, because there is still a level of intrigue and expectations for something new, the same is not there for bsa.

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..... I WISH I didn't go on Twitter to see what anon was talking about 😭 I WISH

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GIRL PLEASE GO SEE THESE QUESTIONS IKEMOTO ANSWERED😭🤦🏽

What theres a new interview out? I thought we werent getting anything until June what I miss lol

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Sister, can you please talk about the Himawari is a biju crap Himawari's fans love stating as a fact? Please, they need to hear the truth, because how is she a biju and Naruto is not.

You wanna know the answer to that?

Do you REALLY wanna know?

Well unfortunately I cant tell you, because not even Kurama or Ikemoto knows how to fkin explain it.

'The universe is full of mysteries'

'Well since its already happened, the how doesnt matter, whats more important is accepting the circumstances and moving forward.'

Translation: Just go with it, I dont actually have a justification for this

'Listen Im not talking about what you are or arent here'

'Forget everything you know, think of yourself as a personification of chakra, chakra in human form'

Translation: Forget everything you know, I literally have no idea wtf I am doing with this, I needed her to have Kurama but I did not plan a single thing about how to achieve that so just FORGET EVERYTHING YOU KNOW about how Biju works and just roll with it, as Kurama said, the universe is full of mysteries so just consider this one of those mysteries cuz your not getting any better explanation than this because I dont even fkin know.

So sorry if you wanted an explanation for this from me but I cant give you one, Ikemoto cant even give one, he made Kurama as clueless as the reader, he's literally just theorizing what the reason is just like the audience, he doesnt know anymore than we do.

But if you want my honest opinion on how this works then I see it the same way as Ikemoto needlessly having Boruto claim Uzuhiko uses the planets rotation and yatta yatta when it all comes down to literally just nature energy, all he had to say was nature energy, but Ikemoto gave some convoluted explanation to try and sound like something different when it isnt.

Im gonna assume the same applies here, she is a Jinchuriki, just one without needing to have the biju literally sealed inside her, Kurama was just plot conveniently reborn into her as Naruto's daughter for some reason but whatever I can roll with that.

But instead of Ikemoto just saying that, he's trying to make up some profound convoluted explanation for why Himawari is 'different' than Naruto just to try and sound like its a new situation when it really isnt, thats why he has to literally tell us 'Forget everything you know' because if we DONT then we can easily call out his bullshit.

Theres no such thing as someone being born a danm biju, or becoming a biju, the biju themselves were created by Hagoromo, you cant just retcon that and say oh well Himawari is the daughter of Naruto and Hinata and somehow she was born with a sliver of Kurama's chakra or their Uzumaki and Hyuuga chakra made her even more compatible than Naruto and an even special case than Naruto where she's not a jinchuriki but actually the biju itself-

DO YOU SEE HOW FKIN RIDICULOUS AND NEADLESSLY CONVOLUTED THAT IS?

Just fkin say she's a Jinchuriki through rebirth rather than sealing, when a biju is reborn theres no telling where that will be, and since Kurama died within Naruto who we all know they had a special bond Kurama never had with any other host, he would've probably been reborn within Naruto again, but since he's in the shadow realm right now he went to the closest thing to him which is his daughter, because Boruto is already a vessel for Momoshiki, so he went to Hima by default.

That is SO much easier to fkin explain, literally, its no surprise that Kurama would subconsciously want to return to Naruto, but end up with his daughter since Naruto couldnt be found and Boruto has been 100% Otsutsukified already.

WHY do we need all this extra overly complicated bs that even Ikemoto cant clearly explain himself? why try to MAKE some shet you cant explain instead of something you can? its stupid.

So yea if you want my take on it, I dont believe she is literally the biju personified, I believe Ikemoto is just trying to sound different again like he did with Uzuhiko, rather than just saying nature energy, he made up some planet rotation bs, and rather than just saying jinchuriki through rebirth, he made up this chakra personified bs.

Its up to you what you wanna go with but the truth of the matter is there isnt any right answer to this, Ikemoto himself doesnt know and doesnt want you to think about it, he just wants you to roll with it and accept it as is and

FORGET EVERYTHING YOU KNOW

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Borusara shipping logic is dumb.

Just because Sumire is having a bulma type role doesn’t mean she will be like bulma moving onto someone else romantically.

They pick who they think Sumire is parallel to like Ino in the love rivalry or bulma and say how she will let go of her feelings for boruto and yet don’t understand the context of the love rivalry or anything.

We can all critique how it was handled but whats canon is canon.

Bulma left Yamcha because he essentially cheated, that wasnt her 'moving on' from him, that was him violating their relationship being a womanizer and Bulma having self respect enough to leave him for it, point blank.

You cannot compare Bulma leaving someone who stepped out on her, to Sumire just giving up on Boruto and loving someone else, those are not the same things.

Bulma got to know Vegeta and bond with him over time during his ongoing redemption arc, I know alot of this was anime only but regardless we can still consider it canon since they DID canonically get together and have a child, so whether we saw the process or not, we still know it happened so the specifics on how is irrelevant.

My point is she and Vegeta clearly spent time together, got to know eachother, and clearly bonded enough to the point she was willing to sleep with him and have a child together.

Where tf do you see that with Sumire and Kawaki? where is there any indication of a bond? of them getting to know eachother? of Sumire even remotely liking Kawaki?

We see on more than one occasion that Bulma understands Vegeta, she describes him perfectly and understands his thought process, she knows exactly what to say to him and often even knows what he's thinking as well. The fact that he even listens to Bulma was proof enough of their connection, since when does the prince of all saiyans listen to anybody? let alone a mere mortal? come on now.

Where do we see anything like that with Sumire and Kawaki? lets be fkin fr.

This comparison is stupid and just shows what I always say about them not understanding context, or being purposefully ignorant about it.

They see Bulma left Yamcha and moved onto Vegeta and just conclude since Sumire is in the Bulma role that she'll move on to the bad guy too

Danm all the context in between, just Bulma moved onto the bad guy, so Sumire will move onto the bad guy too, end of story.

It's so dumb and just shows they dont really understand the comparisons their even making.

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Borusara shippers keep saying Borusumi is dead once that MV came out but it’s still thriving to me. They’re acting like boruto and sarada interactions in tbv is consistent when it isn’t.

Still havent watched it yet but yea, I already knew it was gonna be pure fanservice for them just off the thumbnail alone so I have no desire on rushing to watch it and guess what? my intuition was right cuz thats all Im hearing about it, that it was essentially just bsa fanservice lol wow who could've thought, that thumbnail didnt imply that at all [if it wasnt obvious that was sarcasm]

So yea I already knew what this was gonna be and how they were gonna react, they think promoters somehow dictate what the author thinks and will do, but all you have to do is look at all the tons of NaruSasu and NaruSaku promo they did back in the day and you'll see that they were pushing them HARD and it didnt mean jack shit in the end.

The promoters and advertisers have one goal and one goal only, to make money, to make you buy the product, they dont give a danm about whether or not things are canonically gonna go the way they advertise, they only care about pandering to whoever they know will make them the most money.

They dont believe theres enough KawaSara fans to bring in alot of money from pandering to, so they dont, same with BoruSumi, or MitsuSara, or BoruMitsu, it just is what it is ok this is how business works, they want this $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

So who will bring in the most money? BoruSara, Naruto, Sakura, and Sasuke's kids

It literally combines their two money makers in the past, NaruSaku and NaruSasu, now they get it all in one pairing which is BoruSara, they are capitalizing on that NaruSasu and NaruSaku clout through their kids and its not subtle in the slightest.

They dont think BoruSara is just that big like the OG ships were, no actually BoruSara is pretty small if you only count ppl who genuinely like the ship on its own merits and not as a replacement/consolation prize for the OG ships they actually wanted.

Like I said this is business, their not stupid, they know BoruSara isnt actually that big to capitalize on, but they KNOW that alot of NaruSaku and NaruSasu fans flocked to it, THATS where its big size comes from.

So its not the BoruSara fans their really pandering to, but the NaruSasu and NaruSaku fans clinging to it for validation and retribution for their non canon ships.

Kishimoto said he let it be known early on he had decided on SS and NH endgame, did that stop ANY of the promotions and advertisements ect from shoving a ton of NS and SNS content? hell no, they knew where the money was and they played to it, capitalized on all sides of the fandom rather than just prioritizing the known canon ships.

I mean why settle for just SS and NH funds when you can get SS, NH, SNS, and NS funds? thats 4x the money

But Ikemoto just sucks at making multiple ships reach that type of popularity the way Kishimoto did, so they know they wont make the same amount of money by playing to multiple ships, they KNOW that BoruSara is the only for sure money maker because of the NS and SNS clout and tag alongs that comes with em.

Now am I saying their right in their assessment? no, I do believe if they played up BoruSumi more then they would see that they'd have alot of support too.

But like I said, this is business, they dont want 'maybe' they want certainty and their just not willing to gamble on Sumire, probably because they cant afford to with the sales for the manga already getting lower and lower with each volume release, so they cant afford to risk any further losses than their already getting.

I mean look at it now with them NOT gambling on BoruSumi, their already ALL IN on BoruSara and the sales still look abysmal, their already hanging by a thread, so business wise it would be UNwise to take a gamble on ANYTHING they arent sure will 100% be successful.

So if anything I would describe BoruSara as dead, because even with everything their getting, their still nowhere near the OG ships level of popularity, not even the non canon ones.

BoruSara is so dead that it cant even carry the sales higher, you never see any massive spikes in sales whenever BoruSara content happens in a volume, they stay largely the same or rarely you'll see a small uptick.

If the ship was so great it would be carrying the manga on its back, but really all it does is keep a decent amount of ppl buying with false expectations and then being massively disappointed afterwards.

Because, shocker, ppl do not wanna read a shounen battle manga just to be presented a shoujo romance manga, they might pick it up hoping for BoruSara MOMENTS obviously, but they dont pick it up for that to be ALL everything is about, they dont pick it up hoping to see Sasuke's daughter simply revolve her entire character and motivations around her love for Boruto and danm everything and everyone else, but thats what they get.

But the goal is to get them to spend their money, they dont care about their disappointment afterwards, as long as your money went towards their sales then they dont give a danm about you realizing you've been scammed afterwards.

So when I say BoruSara is dead, I dont mean as in the ship has sunk, it hasnt.

What I mean is its dead in terms of its popularity alone being enough for ppl anymore, fans are tired, and so are casual readers, it was fun and hype at first seeing Naruto and Sasuke's kids together, it was cool that they had NS and SNS dynamics which drew alot of their fans to them, ppl saw them as a consolation prize with loads of potential to be even better etc etc.

But its been a danm decade now, that was all the way back in 2015, you cannot seriously think that in 2026 ppl still feel that same hype and excitement.

Its gone, its dead, its not news anymore, ppl have LONG passed the point of wanting to see more, now its we've seen ENOUGH can we see anything else now? please? literally anything else would be great.

Their beating a dead horse because they cant confidently rely on anything else, its all they have, their too scared to deviate from it because as I said, Ikemoto does not give them much to work with the way Kishimoto did.

They could play to 4 different major pairings with decent popularity on all sides, Ikemoto didnt even give them one, BoruSara doesnt even thrive off anything Ikemoto gave them, it all came from what Kishimoto did in Gaiden and the Boruto movie.

I mean where did their initial popularity start?

And where did it skyrocket?

Need I say more? the ship isnt even carried by anything Ikemoto did for it, he's just riding the coattails of what KISHIMOTO created for them.

Now am I saying Kishimoto shipped them? no I am not, but look at just how easily Kishimoto was able to make them take off, he didnt even have to do anything incredible, just showed off their dynamic and bond and the rest was history.

Ikemoto dont have that same pull, which is why even with everything he gives them in the manga, it doesnt achieve the same results, what Ikemoto does isnt anything of substance, its basically like jump scares.

Jump scares are mainly for shock value, its supposed to hit you and scare you unexpectedly, but what happens when your oversaturated with jump scares? they lose their impact, you stop being scared, you start even noticing when one is coming, and then even become able to predict WHEN and WHERE they will happen.

BoruSara is like that in Ikemoto's hands, he used them as the ship bait version of jump scares, everyone was surprised whenever they had a moment cuz it was new and fresh at the time, but now? nobody cares anymore, the shock factor is gone, we've seen it all before, Ikemoto does nothing to switch it up to the point we already know what to expect atp.

Boruto worries for Sarada, Sarada worries for Boruto, Boruto saves Sarada, Sarada wants to help Boruto, Boruto keeps his distance, Sarada whines about it and wanting to do more, Sarada is a damsel in distress again, Boruto saves her again, rinse and got danm repeat.

Its boring, but its all they got with Ikemoto so they have to beat the dead horse even if more and more ppl are starting to get fed up, as long as theres still that chunk of suckers who will still buy into it cuz they dont care about anything else then theres still money to be made from it.

Sorry I went off on a bit of a rant but yea, thats pretty much the situation with this.

Its a dead ship, not in the sense that it sunk, but in the sense that ppl just arent effected by it anymore, the shock factor isnt there anymore, and Ikemoto has no intention on switching things up, so now its just boring to watch but hey, the rabid shippers will still eat it up right?

Sucks for the rest of us but like I said, it's just business, and we got nobody but Ikemoto to blame for them not feeling confident in promoting anything else from his abysmal handling of all his ships.

Like do you realize how bad it is that the MC has only ONE real marketable ship? and the secondary MC has NONE? let THAT sink in and then try and tell me that 'Ikemoto handles his ships better than Kishimoto' gtf outta here man.

The 'best new gen MC' only has one major ship to his name that they feel confident in promoting 😭 this ship is in the got danm trenches and their treating it like its bragging rights when all it does is expose how terrible Ikemoto's writing is and how promoters are literally just playin them for suckers right in their face.

They probably know they couldnt play other fandoms for suckers the same way, their probably waiting for Ikemoto to actually do something BIG they can confidently capitalize on to finally start pulling in the other side, but they cant do that if Ikemoto is only giving them the bare minimum, they need something big like the Pain arc type situation that they can milk for all its worth.

Until then tho, their gonna keep beating this bsa dead horse for every cent they can still make out of it, cuz their not makin it from anything else thats for danm sure.

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Some said in their exact words “Sarada fell in love with a hero. Sumire fell in love with a boy who was doomed to fade away. That is the difference. The real agony belonged to Sumire”

“If we take the starting point of where Sarada fell in love—as BoruSara fans claim, in Chapter 10—she clearly blushes while talking about how 'cool' Boruto is. Meanwhile, Sumire fell in love with Boruto exactly as he was.” “Not with a cool hero who inspires her to chase goals, but with a simple, doomed boy.”

I never thought about that 🤔

Hmm thats not a bad take, but I think it goes even deeper than that.

Sarada already confirmed she didnt like him at that time, but lets just say she did, that took place way AFTER the Nue arc.

When the Hokage mountain scene happened, if we concede that she fell for him there, Sarada fell inlove with the new ‘cool’ version of Boruto who wanted to be like her dad, who would be her ‘protector’, she fell inlove with a hero like you said, the cool ‘new’ Boruto who vowed to protect her, the hero that helped take down Momoshiki and everybody loves now.

Off topic but I am genuinely curious if she would’ve had the same response if he did say he wanted to become Hokage too, because she looked both sad and disappointed when she thought Boruto was gonna aim for the same goal as her, so would the attraction still have sparked or was it really only the fact that he didnt have the same goal as her? Food for thought.

On the other hand, Sumire fell for a Boruto who wasnt a hero and didnt have any huge feat and wasnt beloved by everyone [besides ppl like Katasuke, but his peers treated him normally] she fell for just regular Boruto, the one who was worried sick about her when she got hurt, who affectionately called her class rep, who believed in her till the very end, who risked his life to save her, who told her she could choose her own path, who held her hand and helped her return home, who literally went to his dad to ask for leniency during a time where he would NEVER ask his dad for anything, but he made a point of doing so for her.

Sumire didnt fall for an image or a title, she didnt fall for the Hokage’s son or the village hero, she fell for Boruto.

This is why her feelings come off more genuine overall, cuz no matter where you argue Sarada’s feelings really started, both are very shallow or just plain ridiculous.

If its the Hokage mountain then she basically just fell for the ‘new’ cool hero version of him who supports her dream now, and if its where she says it happened [when he kept going through a hard time] then its essentially pity, neither of these are serious.

For Sumire she fell for Boruto for who he is and who he was from the start, she didnt mind that Boruto was rebelling against his dad trying to follow his own path and make his own name for himself, she admired him for it.

Sarada however DID mind, she was annoyed by it and resented him for it, so it makes you wonder if Sarada really even likes Boruto, or she only likes him because he conformed more into what she wanted [someone who respects Naruto and the Hokage, supports her dream, appreciates his dad and doesnt bad mouth him anymore] again, just food for thought.

For example, with Sakura you can say she loved Sasuke regardless, her feelings didnt change when he went off the deep end, she loved him for who he was and his betrayal didnt change that, she never wanted him to change into some different person, she just wanted him to be himself in a healthy mind space, to be happy and at peace with ppl who loved him. If she wanted to change him, she’d never tolerate him being gone for long periods of time like she does, Ino said so herself, she’d never go for it, but Sakura understands that thats who Sasuke is, thats how he protects the village from threats only he can deal with, making sacrifices only he is willing to make. Sakura obviously isnt super happy with it, but she understands, respects, and supports him nonetheless.

Sarada I cannot say the same for, nobody can, if Boruto had stayed as he was rightfully pissed off at his dad, still rebelling, and still didnt support her dream, I cannot say that Sarada would still fall for him, because Sarada didnt understand, respect, or support any of that.

Now that Boruto is basically in the same position as Sasuke, we see he does nothing differrent than Sasuke did, he was gone for years at a time with no contact despite having a way to and the only reason Sarada tolerated it was cuz the plot demanded she do, but as soon as that was no longer the case, first thing she did was ask Ada where he was so she could go after him even after hearing Ada say he’s intentionally keeping his distance and doesnt wanna be found, and even when Sumire explains that she’s right and why, Sarada STILL argues for WHY she NEEDS to go after him.

So whereas Sakura is obviously not overjoyed at her husband being gone so often but still supports and understands him and doesnt try to force herself to go along with him [when Sasuke said no, she respected that, when he didnt say no, she followed him and he didnt object] Sarada will just flat out disregard that and still insist on going with him no matter what, and if Boruto had ANY intention on allowing that he would’ve done it by now but he isnt.

If he can allow Inojin to be instant transmissioned to where he is for assistance, theres no reason he couldnt do the same for Sarada IF HE WANTED TO.

But he didnt, cuz he doesnt want her involved, and everytime she is shes a damsel in distress he has to save is more than enough reason why he leaves her out.

But I’ll go even further, Boruto is safe at his hideout with KK, nobodys found them, so theres no harm in him bringing her there, if anything its the safest place for her to be since nobody knows where it is, so all the more reason for him bein more than capable of bringin her there but again, he chooses not to.

Didnt mean to get off topic but my point is we already seen Sarada would be the complete opposite of Sakura, she wont respect Boruto’s wishes, because even after being called out by Sumire her mentality didnt change, she still talks about protecting Boruto, helping Boruto, and being his strength, everything she said went in one ear and out the other, she has no intention on stopping going after him or getting involved, the only thing she wont do is ask Ada or Sumire about where he is anymore since she knows unlike her they actually respect Boruto’s wishes on being left alone and not getting in his way.

All thats to say that Sarada doesnt really like Boruto for who he is, nor does she even respect his path in life, she only really liked the initial coolness of it when he announced it, but now that its ACTUALLY in effect and he’s ACTUALLY acting out the Sasuke role, we see she aint really down for it.

Which we already knew would be the case anyway since Boruto and Sarada never said they were ok with their fathers positions, they just learned to accept it cuz it wasnt changing, but neither ever said they liked it now or would wanna be with someone in that position, so its not surprising that now that Boruto is acting as the supporting shadow that Sarada isnt tolerating it and trying her best to get involved even knowing he doesnt want her to.

Meanwhile Sumire’s remained the same, she supported Boruto at his rebellion, supported his new path he chose for himself, and she supports him keeping his distance from them for their sake, she clearly isnt happy about it and wants to do more, but she knows thats not what Boruto wants from her and she respects that.

So yea, I agree, just as Sakura suffers in silence while understanding this is the role her husband plays and she supports him and stays strong despite the distance, Sumire also suffers in silence, staying supportive of Boruto and not making things harder for him than they already are, she stays strong even tho she very obviously misses him alot, but she understands his position, and respects his wishes for her NOT to try and find him and why he doesnt WANT to be found.

So yea in that sense Sumire definitely suffers more, obviously she and Sarada are both suffering equally, but in different ways.

Sarada suffers openly, she doesnt hide anything, and she actively chooses to make herself suffer MORE by being reckless and careless, so desperate to be near Boruto and be of help to him and failing miserably that she ends up being a liability rather than help, which just makes her feel even worse because she wants to help him, but never succeeds, and then she cries and whines about it.

Sumire suffers in silence, she could yell, she could complain, she could make a big fuss, but she knows thats not what Boruto wants or needs, he feels bad enough having to be apart like this in the first place and she understands that, so keeping up a calm strong front eases some of the weight of guilt off of him, he already knows this is alot on her, but seeing her unconditional support and faith in him is a huge weight off his shoulders knowing that Sumire has his back and isnt falling apart because of him.

So I say Sumire suffers more because Sarada atleast vents, she lets those feelings out and doesnt repress them. Sumire however does, not cuz she has to, but cuz she understands what Boruto needs and it isnt her falling apart about how much she misses him and wants to help him, but understanding and support.

He doesnt need her worry making him feel more guilty than he already feels, he needs her support even if its tough, he needs her understanding even though its hard to stay strong and endure, he needs someone he can come back to and not feel judged or condemned, even if it would be justifiable, this comes with the territory.

Loving Boruto means accepting this situation with omnipotence, and his role as the supporting shadow, he doesnt need someone with him who knows that upfront yet still complains every step of the way, who makes him feel bad for it, guilty for it, even though they already knew this is what comes with being with him.

Sorry if I got off track here and there but anyway I agree with whoever made the statement, I believe Sumire and Sarada suffer equally, but differently, cuz alot of Sarada’s suffering is self inflicted, like if your trying to convince ppl who are brainwashed by an alien gods power for 3 years thats literally your own fault if you kept getting your feelings hurt being ignored, and its your own fault if you keep trying to fight battles you know you cant win and fail everytime.

Sumire suffers more cuz everything she’s experienced wasnt any fault of her own, and she doesnt vent or let her feelings out the way Sarada does because she’s trying to stay strong for Boruto, she wants to help him more but she understands why she cant, then even when he comes back she’s forced to deal with the sudden development of Sarada liking him as well and flaunting that infront of her [even if it wasnt intentional that was still how it came off] and now she has to go up against someone who has all that history with him, even if she doesnt say it, I think we all know that in that situation you would feel a little insecure about it because obviously they have the advantage.

Doesnt mean Boruto has to like her just for that reason, their history as childhood friends could very well be the reason why he DOESNT like her cuz thats all he’s ever seen her as, but the point is you’d still understandably worry if you’ll lose because of that advantage, doesnt mean you will, but its a valid and understandable concern.

So thats another thing that adds to the hurt Sumire suffers from all this.

So yea Im sorry this got kind of all over the place, I dont blame you if you dont read it all or go ‘what the hell is she yappin about?’ 😭 but I hope atleast some of this made sense, I dunno, I havent been sleepin the best lately so Im probably not conveying my thoughts as well as I normally do when Im well rested >.< my apologies.

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I didn’t know if someone pointed this out before but when boruto visit Sumire about the sword, he was wearing the blazer but when he came back to Sumire , he was wearing the jacket that was similar to the one he wore in his childhood.

I don’t know if ikemoto was trying to say something or what but it’s subtle

Who knows but its something to keep in mind, like how Kawaki and Sarada wore complementary colors [red and green] and then yin and yang colors [black and white] and then even when he changed into his latest fit, turns out red and teal are a common combo as well lol despite it technically being Ada’s color, its really only the little trinkets on her shorts, eyes, bracelets, and heels that are that color while the primary color on her palette is blue/pink [her long prominent poofy/loopy hair] and white [her loose see through long sleeved big collared shirt] the teal is barely noticeable compared to those.

Kawaki’s primary color is black now, but the obvious secondary color is teal, its the second color you notice immadiately, same with Sarada’s primary color also being black with the secondary being red.

Getting back to BoruSumi they also technically had complementary colors, but instead of through their clothes it was through their hair [yellow and purple] which may or may not have been a coincidence, but considering the ppl over at SP designed her, and the first arc focused on her, and she was so well liked she was brought into the manga, and then it was confirmed at the same time of her introduction in the manga that she liked Boruto, I think its safe to say there was some intention there.

As for the clothing style, its kinda funny how Boruto had on a classy type look at first just like Sumire, she had the school girl look with a classy dress and tie and Boruto looked more dressed for a dinner date with a blazer and white undershirt, but the way he wore it was more informal than Sumire [unbuttoned cuffs and collar]

Regardless they looked pretty much dressed for the same occasion [minus the cloak] hence the dressed for a date jokes that ppl made at the time lol

Now he’s dressed more like he did when he was younger, so if I were to make my own analysis, I cant prove this so this is just my theory on it so feel free to reject it.

Before Boruto was dressed most likely in homage to Sasuke, because his clothes also have a more ‘formal’ vibe to it with the whole vest look he had goin on, then Boruto follows behind that with a blazer, and kept wearin it as a way to keep his master close to him, ya know like a form of honor and respect, he keeps him alive and present by his side through wearin a similar look and borrowing his sword.

But once the sword was damaged, again this is just my own analysis, but once the sword was damaged he went to Sumire to fix it, and when told the sword might have to be almost entirely changed, he hesitated but agreed that as long as its fixed Sasuke probably wouldnt mind.

It is exactly after that that Boruto also changes his clothes, and says other than the hilt the sword is pretty much totally different.

So the way I see it is this was probably symbolic of Boruto letting go, he clearly loves and admires Sasuke alot and has a ton of respect for him, he wants to be like him in many ways and even adopted alot of his personality to cope with alot of what happened and to keep Momo at bay [if he’s stoic and apathetic then Momo cant take advantage of his despair]

But once the sword was damaged, and the only way to fix it most efficiently was by Sumire’s technology, Boruto had to choose between clinging to it being his masters sword and wanting it to stay unchanged, or he could let go and accept any changes needed to improve and fix it, he chose to let go.

And at the same time he let go of keeping the sword as his master left it, he also let go of the clothes that were a reference to his master too, probably a outfit Sasuke himself bought for him [since Ikemoto wants to go the Jiraiya route its possible] which makes it an even bigger deal for him no longer wearing it.

As barely noticeable as this is, I wouldnt put it past Ikemoto for this to be his attempt at subtle character development for an internal conflict he never bothered to explore but just left for readers to assume was going on and fill in the blanks for ourselves since he couldnt be bothered to.

This isnt me saying Boruto gave up on Sasuke or anything like that, what I mean is he stopped using him as an unhealthy coping mechanism, he’s letting go of the codependency, he doesnt need to abandon his own style to dress like Sasuke, he doesnt need to keep the sword exactly as it is just because it was the way Sasuke left it if theres technology that could greatly improve it.

So I think him entrusting the sword to Sumire was his first step in letting go of his over reliance on Sasuke to make it through, and allowing someone else to be a source of strength for him. Then changing his clothes was his second act of letting go, no longer being a literal mini Sasuke, or in Kawaki’s words, ‘Uchiha adoptee’, but now he’s allowing himself to be Boruto again.

So again this is my own analysis and I very well could be wrong, but the way I see it, is this is Boruto steadily reclaiming his own identity again, and relying on his own strength and willpower instead of being dependent on Sasuke.

Im not saying Boruto was Sarada levels of dependent, I just mean that Boruto was thankful for Sarada sending Sasuke his way because before he showed up Momo was THIS close to having the chance to take over Boruto through his despair of all his friends turning on him, Momo was trying to convince him to fight or even kill them, and without intervention its very likely Boruto would’ve been overwhelmed to the point Momo was able to take over and do something irreversible that he could never live with himself afterwards, which then allows Momo to take over completely.

Its no secret that Sasuke was Boruto’s rock through all of that, he was what kept him sane, kept him able to still smile and laugh and be himself because he wasnt alone and had Sasuke by his side, his support, his belief, his faith, all while having no memory of him.

So yeah, obviously Boruto was dependent on him cuz he’s all he had, everyone else besides Sarada [to his knowledge] had turned their backs on him, so its safe to say he relied on Sasuke alot to get through it, and he was the reason he could stand up to Momoshiki in the end when he tried to make him despair, Boruto pushed back because he now had Sasuke backin him up, Momo even acknowledges that Sasuke’s intervention pretty much ruined things for him cuz it gave Boruto hope again.

Anyway alls that to say is that Boruto obviously needed Sasuke to cope, he needed to feel like he was still around helping him get through all of this, because thats what got him through everything before, and now that he’s gone the only thing still keeping him sane and going is the goal of saving Sasuke and the promise he made to him about Sarada [that and obviously freeing his parents and reconciling with Kawaki]

So thats pretty much my take on it, his clothes and sword was his way of coping and feeling like Sasuke was still around and with him through everything, then when giving over the sword to Sumire was his first act of letting go of that dependency on him, and then dressing like himself again was his second act.

Whats interesting is that this subtle development happened with Sumire, she’s his new source of strength through his sword, a sword thats mostly all his own now, not Sasuke’s. And his clothes are his own style again, not Sasuke’s.

So Boruto’s first steps into reclaiming his own identity and relying on his own strength both happened around Sumire, so in that sense, yeah, I think it was pretty meaningful even though Ikemoto put in zero work to actually convey that in an obvious way.

But again, this is just my personal analysis I cant confirm if this was the actual intent or not, but since you asked, I just went ahead and gave my take on it, and I have this take for good reason.

One of Boruto’s main themes is defying his destiny, and forging his own identity outside of the shadow of his father, to follow his own path in life, to write HIS story, cuz he is Boruto Uzumaki.

So, it makes sense that Boruto would be heavily dependent on Sasuke at the time he was at his lowest, but now that he’s gaining more comrades and more ppl are on his side, he no longer has JUST Sasuke to depend on, plus it was unrealistic for him to depend on him forever anyway, it’s been 3 years, eventually Boruto was gonna have to reach this point if he was ever gonna progress as a character.

So for Boruto to start becoming himself again and relying on his own strength, is very much in character for him because thats what he’s always strived to do, to gain and rely on his own power, not his fathers, and to have his own identity as Boruto Uzumaki, not the Hokage’s son.

So yeah, thats my analysis, and if thats indeed the intent then yea it is very interesting that this development happened through Sumire.

But again, this is just my take on it, feel free to disagree, I cant confirm any of this for sure, Im just going off what Ikemoto’s given so far.