Raveneira

Rants, Thoughts, Discussions ect mainly anime but maybe other media occassionally depending on what Im invested in. For more insight on where I stand on different topics look here https://raveneira.carrd.co/

[raveneira]

I just realized that the Omnipotence storyline with B0ruto and Kawaki is just the Tales of the Abyss storyline with Asch and Luke but just so much fkin worse.

Like every possible way you could fk that plotline up, Ikeass fked it up.

For my non TOA readers heres the short summary of the situation

Theres a real Luke and a fake, the real Luke is royalty essentially, beloved, had a good life, but is kidnapped at a young age, cloned, replaced by said clone and later on by time he finally broke free to go back home the clone had completely taken his place as Luke, so he goes on to adopt the new name Asch and ya know, start his borderline villain arc but is more of an anti-villain frfr.

Thats the very bare bones run down of it but theres way more to it that you can look up and get the full story on if your really curious, but the main point of comparison Im making is, both stories tackle someone who had everything, having everything taken away from him, even his place in everyones lives, his entire life, his home, his friends, his family, all of that was taken away and he can never get it back.

This is why I say Ikemoto thoroughly fked this plotline up, because Asch really does lose everything, because even after ppl figure out Luke isnt the real one, they all choose to stand by him anyway, they've known him longer so their connection with him is stronger than the one with Asch from when they were kids.

So even if Ikemoto wanted to go the cowardly route of not making Boruto lose everything through death, he could've still had Boruto lose everything even just on an emotional level

Like how heartbreaking would it be if instead of Naruto and Hinata being sealed, they were actually still active and affected by omnipotence? how sad would it be seeing them treating Kawaki like their son when it should be him?

Now dont get me wrong in TOA Luke doesnt know that he's a clone, he never intended or wanted to take Asch place and when he realized the truth he tried to give everything back but Asch refused cuz the damage was done already, too much times passed, they've already embraced him as the real Luke for all these years.

Plus theres one other major detail for why trying to rekindle things is pointless...which is Asch is dying, as a side effect of the cloning so...yea, more salt on the wound.

Like I said theres so much that goes into this I highly suggest you either play the game or watch the anime cuz its genuinely so good but my point is this.

All the emotional weight of that 'life stolen' storyline, is completely non existent in the TBV one

It doesnt matter if ones about a clone or not, the originals lives were still STOLEN from them and REPLACED by someone else, the means dont matter, its the effects of that that matters

Naruto had all different kinds of orphan stories by vastly different circumstances, but it didnt matter HOW they became orphans, what mattered is how being orphaned effected them.

Thats my point here, both stories revolve around the originals lives being stolen from them and how thats effected them, but only TOA actually explores the effects of that in depth and showcases the actual irreversible consequences of that, while TBV just completely glosses over all of it.

Also another thing about TOA is that we actually see majority of the journey from the clone, Luke's, pov, so we never even know about the life swap until Luke eventually clashes with Asch on the battlefield one day and see's that they look identical, thats when questions start to arise.

Anyway throughout the entire ordeal we mostly see everything and experience everything from Luke's pov, his slow realization of what he is, his identity crisis, how he processes it and eventually comes to terms with it and decides how he's gonna move forward, we get all of that.

Technically Luke is not the main character, its Asch, because Asch is the real Luke that the story is supposed to be following, but because Luke REPLACED him, we see everything from mostly his pov.

Follow me? good, now I want you to remember what Ikemoto said about Boruto and Kawaki, how that in TBV Boruto's development is pretty much already done, it happened off screen, its finito, so we'll be following Kawaki's development instead and seeing more of his pov etc.

This is what I mean by Ikemoto fkin that plotline up because it literally makes sense why Kawaki would get the focal shift of TBV, because he literally took Boruto's place, he IS Boruto, therefore he IS the MC.

Its just little things like that that amplify the story, like in the game when you realize what really happened you literally WANT to get more on Asch, you want more focus on him, more interaction with him, you crave more screentime for him because its rightfully his to begin with, this should be HIS journey with HIS friends

But the game doesnt allow you that and thats the point, we're literally forced into Asch's shoes, we're forced to see Luke replace him and have to just accept that, and through Luke, we TRY to reach out to Asch to try and take his life back, but he refuses, its too late, theres no going back even if he wanted to.

So we're forced to continue the game through Lukes eyes because he is the MC now.

But there is a point in the game where we briefly play from Asch pov and he interacts with his old friends and stuff, but the entire time you can feel the distance, you can feel the bond just aint there like it was, that Asch is closed off and the others pretty much even after Luke fked up MASSIVELY atp and gotten ppl KILLED over a VERY stupid decision ignoring everyone who tried to warn him, they all still side with him, they forgive him and go back to him cuz thats their homie.

It is genuinely sad to see cuz it just basically confirmed what Asch already knew, there really is NO going back for him, Luke has everything and everyone, and Asch has nothing.

Ikemoto really could've done alot with this plotline and he just botched it in every possible fkin way, like Asch literally suffers from having his life stolen from him, meanwhile Boruto just chills, gets handed allies, has plot conveniently unaffected allies, convinces several brainwashed ppl to his side, has two of the most broken allies with the most broken cheat code abilities possible [KK and Ada] his parents are sealed so they never got to be affected by omnipotence anyway, and even WITH omnipotence he still has his little sister on his side as well

like got dam you cant have a 'lose everything' plot and then not commit to any of the after effects that comes with losing everything, basically losing nothing, and 'everything' is just a metaphor rather than deadass losing everything he once had.

This is why having TBV be from Kawaki's pov would really enhance this plotline because then it really does feel like Boruto's life was stolen, even if Kawaki isnt nefariously going around tryna live his life on purpose and take his place, but the fact remains he DID whether he did it intentionally or not.

We should've seen Kawaki interacting with Boruto's friends, we should've seen the villagers loving and adoring him as the Hokage's son, and we should've seen Hima cling to him as her big bro and like remind him of a special occasion, something only Boruto would know, but he doesnt remember, and Hima is sad about that, but she shrugs it off cuz even tho thats weird, actually ALOT of things have been weird about Kawaki from what she remembers, it doesnt matter, he's still her bro and she loves him and thats all that matters.

Its things like THAT we desperately needed to see to really sell the 'Boruto's been replaced' narrative thats trying to be paint here, to sell us on how tragic this all is for him, but how the hell are we supposed to feel anything if literally everyone already sensed something was off about Kawaki and 2 seconds after meeting Boruto they all instantly are able to be like 'hmmm I get why Sarada and Hima stick up for him now'

After everything was known about Asch and Luke, everyone Asch knew and loved all went back to Luke

If everybody had a sudden epiphany right now about Boruto and Kawaki they would all go to Boruto's side in a heart beat and Boruto knows this, its the whole reason he keeps up the lie because he knows the second the truth comes out their all gonna come for Kawaki's neck

So how is Boruto supposed to be perceived as this tragic hero who lost everything when literally everyone is on his side and he knows they are, hell he knows he could reveal the truth anytime and everyone would turn on Kawaki instantly, HE KNOWS THIS, and its exactly WHY he doesnt try to prove his innocence, because he doesnt want to back Kawaki into a corner again.

So again, where tf am I supposed to feel bad for him? he lost NOTHING and suffers NOTHING

Ahg man...thinking about TOA has me wanting to replay the game now just to experience a much better version of this plotline.

[raveneira]

I really do believe you and Axtro. First off idk why whoever is going to narhina fan account and asking stuff are acting like you and Axtro are some Sarada fans and kawasara fans when everyone should know that Axtro and you don’t like Ikemoto Sarada, don’t Like bsa or their shippers, don’t like ksu and their shippers and actually are open to kawasara and Borusumi like why are the Anon acting like you and Axtro are acting like Borusara shippers.

you shouldn’t be getting dragged into some drama because they have some type of resentment of Axtro calling out their behavior. You really were confused on what was going on.

With Axtro, I believe her because I always followed up on her post and especially that ksu situation that’s she gotten ATTACKED over by ksu shippers on twitter just for speaking her opinion about ksu not happening btw. Not once had she bullied or harassed anyone! Heck when Axtro posted a theory about Sumire and Amado, allseeingghost was getting upset and thinking Axtro theory didn’t make sense and claiming that shewas trying to blame Sumire for not watching Amado when that wasn’t even the case at all.

Allseeinghost also gotten upset and told Axtro to stop calling mitsuki underrated and underused and said mitsuki was overhyped, they did kinda went back and forth over their differences opinions but Axtro did say she didn’t want to argue anymore. Again I seen the comments but they are not there anymore and I wished I could’ve screenshot it if I knew this was going to happen.

Now suddenly after they wasn’t satisfied with what they got out of Axtro and now they wanted to go to you to hopefully trash talk about her but thought you was on Axtro side and kept going to you about her. They claim you and Axtro pushed this person off of tumblr is crazy. So now they’re not satisfied what they’re getting out of you and it’s either them acting like different accounts or some allies going to a different account about this.

Overall I do like how Axtro apologized and didn’t want you to be involved despite you still getting dragged somehow and I like how you’re kinda defending Axtro a bit especially when she isn’t active in this situation and I know you don’t really speak for her but still I respect you both. This drama can take a toll on people’s health and I hope you both get peace because this is ridiculous.

I really do believe you and Axtro.

Im glad somebody does...

I wish I had actually done something wrong, or actually WAS involved and in the know about the drama from the start, atleast then it wouldnt be so bad ya know? but the fact that I wasnt even involved, and tried my hardest to STAY uninvolved, and asked over and over to be left alone, let me stay out of it, I dont wanna know whats happening because it has nothing to do with me.

The fact that I tried so danm hard to NOT be a part of this drama, and they forced me into it anyway, then once they got their wish, now they wanna run and cry that they were unfairly targeted? so the whole time I repeatedly kept saying leave me alone I have nothing to do with this, that didnt matter, but then when Im given no choice BUT to get involved to put an end to this cuz they WOULDNT LEAVE ME ALONE now suddenly we cry witch hunt? now suddenly we cry bias? NOW suddenly we cry being run off the platform?

But when it was me I was just supposed to take it, and I promise you, the same thing their whining about now, being 'run off' tumblr, thats exactly what they were trying to make me and axtro do.

Notice how literally everything, and I mean EVERYTHING their claiming I did is what was done to me, everything they said I was doing, they did themselves.

I didnt change my name and try to hide evidence, they did

I didnt pretend to be someone else, they did

I didnt stalk or harass them in any way even while I was suspicious of them, but they stalked me, and I believe they harassed me as well, theres too much evidence that points to them being the one who did so and I made that case publicly

I went after bsa, ksu, and anti SS accounts FIRST just as a precaution, just in case by some chance it was just a random one of those ppl, I tried to give the person I suspected the benefit of the doubt by NOT going after them, I had hoped that by doing so and it stopped that it would clear their name and I could apologize for all the suspicion that was put on them.

But thats not what happened, the harassment continued and got even worse, and it always coincided with something THAT acc did, nobody else did anything suspicious during that time.

Whenever that acc was called out, the harassment started, when axtro name dropped them, I couldnt find their acc, and the more that name was emphasized as the prime suspect, I got told it wasnt them but an acc that seemed fine but I always found it strange how they appeared right around when ghost vanished, I didnt know for sure, but when others told me that was their new account my suspicions were verified.

So I just watched and waited, and it all added up, it wasnt exactly hard to put it all together cuz they've been suspicious from the start.

Axtro apparently had beef with that ghost acc, obviously it didnt end on good terms, then Im approached later and accused of being in some type of kahoots with axtro, when this became public axtro came to my defense and name dropped ghost as the most likely culprit because of their own sloppiness of mentioning axtro and 'what she did', even if I didnt know about the drama, axtro did cuz she was involved, and thats why she was able to tell who was doing it because SHE had direct confrontation with them, I didnt.

So Im just supposed to believe thats a coincidence? after that, ghost had disappeared, a new acc had come up, and that new acc had said it wasnt them and that its someone else trying to frame them, at the time I gave them the benefit of the doubt, but I was suspicious of them the entire time.

So like I said, I went and blocked many bsa, ksu, and even anti SS accounts to try and cover all grounds of who could possibly have beef with me, all except THEM, and guess what happened? the harassment continued AND worsened.

Coincidentally, the more I seemed to be on their side and defending them against the ppl telling me its them, the harassment got more aggressive, like they knew they 'had me' and was throwing a victory lap thinking they were in the clear since I was on their side and throwing all the wrong ppl under the bus.

So again, Im just supposed to think thats a coincidence? then when the accusations against them got louder and louder, they come to me again saying it isnt them and then get rid of their acc again?

So Im just supposed to think that around the time axtro name drops ghost, they coincidentally disappeared, and around that same time a new acc suddenly appeared, again, coincidentally right after ghost vanished, and then around the time THAT account also gets name dropped, they coincidentally disappeared as well, and right as they disappeared, some anon goes to another acc to try and slander me and axtro.

All thats just a coincidence? theres absolutely NO link at all between these things? come tf on.

Like I said, I gave far too much grace in this situation than I should've but I genuinely wanted to make sure I didnt get the wrong person, but maybe if I WAS rash I wouldnt of had to deal with this bs as long as I have.

Patience is a virtue, but next time I wont wait as long as I did here, next time if I have reasonable enough suspicion Ima block, and if its somehow proven to be a misfire, I can always unblock them later.

Overall I do like how Axtro apologized and didn’t want you to be involved despite you still getting dragged somehow and I like how you’re kinda defending Axtro a bit especially when she isn’t active in this situation

Thats the sad part, cuz I wasnt even defending axtro at first, I wasnt condemning her either, but for all I knew, and this is just an example, but for all I knew axtro WAS doing all the things anon said, so the last thing I wanted to do was openly and strongly defend her only to realize that oh they actually were the bad guy and now I look stupid for defending them.

So I didnt want to defend axtro right away, but I didnt want to condemn her either, not without proof of any wrongdoing, so yea, I kept an eye out there as well and guess what? nothing pointed to her as doing anything wrong or what they accused her of other than their own accusation, but there were plenty of things that pointed to them.

So I do feel bad for even just considering axtro when they were a victim in this as well, but her name kept coming up, so I thought I should atleast be on the alert even if I dont suspect her of foul play.

But once I did conclude she wasnt guilty of anything other than voicing her opinion and them not liking that, thats when I defended her, but I could've stood up for her more than I did like she did for me and I do regret that...

Not that Im making excuses, but in a situation where everything was anon, it does give you trust issues not knowing who's really friend or foe, whos pretending to like you but really despises you and wants to tear you down ya know? thats not an excuse for seemingly throwing axtro under the bus...but just an explanation of why I held back, cuz I genuinely didnt know who to trust.

So Im sorry, really I am, for not speaking up as hard as I should've even while she was defending me, I dont know how I could convey how genuinely sorry I am for that cuz just apologizing doesnt feel like enough, I wish I could do more.

I wont ask for forgiveness, hell I wont even ask for understanding, if axtro feels like I left her out to dry then thats valid, the only thing I want is for her to know that I am genuinely sorry, whether she accepts that or not is up to her, I just hope she can feel my sincerity.

I have no problem admitting if I was wrong and I was open to doing that if I indeed had the wrong person in this situation, but I didnt have the wrong person, I believe where theres smoke theres fire and it has been way too danm much smoke for there not to be a fire.

But axtro wasnt that person, and I truly apologize for not realizing that sooner.

and I know you don’t really speak for her but still I respect you both. This drama can take a toll on people’s health and I hope you both get peace because this is ridiculous.

I...appreciate that, it really has taken a toll on me and probably axtro even more so, and I didnt help make it any easier for her either...so I feel awful for two reasons now, 1 being falsely accused for no reason, and 2 having my guard up against the wrong person, someone who was genuinely trying to help at that...

But I wont throw a pity party for myself cuz Im not the only victim in all this, we both are, and even tho I cant check on axtro personally, I hope by some chance she sees this and knows Im rooting for her to be able to get through this, and if she wants to reach out for support or just a 'hang in there' Im here if she'll let me.

But yea...I think Im gonna take a break from my asks for a bit, maybe a while who knows? I'll still be active for like reblogs and stuff, maybe post some art or whatever, but other than that I think Im just gonna chill out for my own mental health in this situation, and I encourage axtro do the same, do NOT come back until your feeling ready to do so, but dont let some rando run you off the platform either.

Take a breath, get some space, and then come back when your mentally prepared and not a second sooner.

I appreciate everyones support and help through this whole thing, and I apologize to those it may have seemed like I ignored, and for those who still want to send me asks about different things please still feel free to do so! even if I dont get back to them right away, I definitely will when I come back, so go right ahead.

As for you anon, thank you for believing me and axtro, it means alot, and I appreciate your support and understanding and hope you take care of yourself as well.

[raveneira]

Crazy that they’re on narhina’s blog playing victim lol. Livingtruth/ghost didn’t have a single consideration for that twitter user that she put on blast and insulted. Was she considerate when she sent all that to you in an ask when she could’ve easily made her own blog post and not have you in that mess to start with? Did she consider what position she was putting you in? But now they want to talk about consideration?

I was actually in the midst of making a post in reference to that but I'll just go ahead and paste some of what I was going to say in this ask instead since you brought it up.

Genuinely the craziest thing about this entire situation is how one could be the victim of multiple attacks, progressively getting worse and worse, and no matter what you say they still claim your a part of some conspiracy and that their gonna investigate you for wrongdoing, which you say go ahead you got nothin to hide

But then when the exact same thing is done to them, their accused, they claim innocence, their investigated, and their claimed to be a part of some conspiracy, suddenly now their the victim that wants sympathy? suddenly now they want to be heard out and believed? but when it was you it didnt matter WHAT you said they didnt give af and condemned you of guilt anyway? but now that the shoes on the other foot, now cuz its THEM everyone else is expected to give all this grace and benefit of the doubt?

Thats crazy to me fr, thats absolutely fkin crazy, I was sitting here this whole time literally not involved in ANY drama literally NONE and just minded my danm business, but because I had a few interactions with someone they didnt like, I get pulled into bs that had nothing to do with me, then when they wouldnt let it go no matter how many times I said leave me out of it I dunno what your talking about, obviously who tf is going to keep getting harassed and not try to find out who is doing it? and how tf are you gonna be MAD at me for doing so when I asked to be left alone MULTIPLE TIMES?

Its like the boy who cried wolf, you cried wolf so many times until nobody bought it anymore, then act surprised when theres a real wolf and nobody believes you.

AKA it was fine when you were doing the accusing and trying to get all eyes on me, it was fine when you kept crying 'bully bully bully' at me despite me literally doing nothing to you or anybody else to warrant it, but now that you feel like your being 'bullied' you want everyone to take your word for it, now YOU want grace from everyone else that you never once considered giving me.

I was condemned on sight no matter what I said, but I didnt condemn or attack, or name dropped anyone even tho I had my suspicions, I took my TIME to be sure before I said anything because I DIDNT want to condemn the wrong person.

That kind of grace wasnt given to me, I was guilty until proven innocent, but they had no desire to prove me innocent, I however genuinely wanted to be wrong about who I suspected, I didnt WANT to condemn them or believe they were behind it.

Even now, where in any of my posts do I give any personal attacks? where do I condemn them as this horrible evil person? meanwhile I've been called evil, manipulative, and probably worse they just havent said to me directly.

All I've said is that I concluded that they were most likely the ones who did it and what I believe the reasoning behind it was, I went in depth on how I reached that conclusion, never threw any personal attacks, never went on some evil villain rant about how they deserve to be bullied or run off the site, I literally said just block all of us and go about your business, not that you should be exiled.

If your being wrongfully accused, THEN BLOCK EVERYONE FALSELY ACCUSING YOU, thats literally what I've been trying to do this whole time! only difference is I couldnt because they stayed anon the entire fkin time, and the prime suspect changed their name when exposed before I finished confirming if it was them.

I've been far too gracious in this situation than I should have, I really was, but which part do you think was paid attention to? me being patient and not accusing anyone rashly? or when I snapped and matched their energy?

I said so many times over and over that I didnt know what they were talking about and that I didnt want any part of it, think thats taken into account? of course not, nobody ever notices or does anything when the victim is getting bullied, but the second, and I mean the SECOND the victim has had enough and swings back all of a sudden that behavior is unacceptable, now suddenly everybody wanna jump in and say thats too far.

Its ok for you to get beat up but god forbid if you defend yourself, no you were just supposed to take it, dont say anything, dont do anything, just take it, and if you snap and fight back well thats your fault, see now your the bully, your the one in the wrong, you dont ever ever defend yourself.

Thats pretty much where I left off but tbh thats really all that needed to be said.

THEY deserve and expect grace, THEY deserve the benefit of the doubt, THEY dont deserve to be accused, THEY deserve to have 'both sides' heard

But me? fk grace, fk benefit of the doubt, I deserve to be accused and I dont deserve to have both sides heard out, Im just guilty by default.

But take note who's the one running to another acc trying to smear me and get 'allies' for sympathy, and who has literally, and I mean LITERALLY has done nothing but mind their business on their account and ask to be left alone.

STILL asking to be left alone, I never wanted any part of this, I was DRAGGED into it for no reason other than who I was associated with, and no matter how many times I said leave me out of it, they kept dragging me into it anyway so fine, now Im involved, now Im gonna try and find out who's doing this when I otherwise wouldnt have if they just left me alone like I asked but fine.

Now that the person who wanted to stay out of it that they wouldnt let stay out of it is looking into them, found them, and now their facing the consequences of their actions, now its oh wait wait wait?

LEAVE PPL THE HELL ALONE and then you wouldnt have these problems, if your beef was with axtro, keep that shit over at axtro, not that I want them to get harassed and bullied, but if your problem is with them, then keep it with them, but when you involve someone else for no danm reason, dont be mad when you get the kind of response you werent expecting.

You never know who your messing with, you could mush one person on the street and they might just curse you out, but you could mush another person and they'll sock you right in the jaw and ask questions later.

Dont try to antagonize someone and then go crying when they dont respond how you expected them to, just because you expect someone to just take it doesnt mean they will, and you dont get to claim your the victim after you PUSH someone to that point.

I asked repeatedly to be left alone and I wasnt, I said I wanted to be kept out of this because it has nothing to do with me and they kept me in it anyway.

Whoever thinks Im the bad guy for this go ahead, I have nothing to prove and nothing to hide, do your own detective work, see for yourself how many times I asked to be left the hell alone, how none of this had anything to do with me but I was dragged into it anyway, I dont have to prove anything, look and see for your danm self and if your too lazy then here mf, you do the math, how many times did I ask to be left alone? how many times did I say this has nothing to do with me?

Come on do some of the work yourself and you tell me, does this sound like someone trying to instigate or start anything? come to your own danm conclusion.

And before me feigning ignorance is brought up, I never said I was pretending not to know what the drama was about, I was pretending that I didnt know who the culprit that was harassing me was, that I wasnt suspicious of them when I was, THATS what I feigned ignorance about.

But from the very beginning I genuinely didnt know what it was about and didnt wanna know, and asked over and over to be left alone.

I dunno how much clearer it could be who the real victim was, but tbh? I dont think they care and hey thats fine, but if your gonna run around and report me then report the whole story, if you wanna talk about hearing out both sides then show the other side then, this didnt come out of nowhere, pretending that it did and that it was just this one big biased witch hunt lead by me is just an outright fkin lie.

If this is a biased witch hunt then I'd hate to know what a fair and just and impartial investigation is considered in their eyes.

Sorry for ranting for so long...if it wasnt obvious Im still pretty pissed off by this whole thing...

[raveneira]

Please ask axtro to turn on asking questions because I do have something to say to her. Why, in the middle of this shit storm, did axtro LIE and pretend people were ‘too scared’ to inbox her when her inbox has not been on this entire scandal? And previously as well. I’m not interested in harassment, I just want to ask a question

Well I dont command axtro, plus given the recent harassment I wouldnt encourage opening her asks either, this situation clearly took a toll on her and its fair of her to take a break, fandom drama is NOT worth your mental health if your feeling overwhelmed.

But hey, she’ll see this ask, but it’ll be totally up to her if she decides she wants to open her asks to answer your question, but thats not up to me to decide for her.

Also its not really a lie, even if her asks were closed, her replies were open, so why did they need her asks open? To be anon? Cuz you cant reply to her anonymously, but if it is a genuine question, then just reply to one of her posts asking about it, no need to hide just to ask a question.

I mean that sincerely btw, just saying if its just to ask a simple question of why she lied about that particular detail, then just go to her replies and ask there, you ARE just trying to clear up a misunderstanding after all and its a fair question, so go for it and clear things up, Im sure she’ll see and respond if your sincerely just trying to understand.

[raveneira]

All hell breaking loose right when the manga goes on a 2 month break so it’ll be no content to break it up 😭

Pfffffft true true, its funny because some moots actually joked about the break going to be filled with a bunch of fandom bs cuz they’ll have nothing to talk about cuz of Ikemoto’s trash writing so they’ll be bored and start meaningless drama cuz they aint got nothin else to do 😭 peak fiction, but the writing is so ass theres nothing of intrigue to talk about long term so they get bored fast and then just resort to fandom drama instead cuz they got nothin else to do to entertain themselves.

[raveneira]

Shippers bragging about how much Boruto cares about Sarada like he didn't gamble her safety with his stupid ass plan in the first place. And right after she left the hospital at that! He didn't even bother making her an active part of the plan either. The pins were barely a safety net and he didn't bother thinking about the possibility they could be stolen. Her being kidnapped is on him (and her for not reacting tbh) but yay, he chased after her with a blank look on his face so he's in love with her!

Shippers bragging about how much Boruto cares about Sarada like he didn't gamble her safety with his stupid ass plan in the first place. And right after she left the hospital at that!

He cared about her so much he didnt even ask about her eyes or how she’s feeling, SHE asked about HIS eye that was injured 3 years ago because she ‘never got to apologize’ which is bs because she had the moment he was slashed to apologize, after everyone went after Kawaki to apologize, and hell even when she and Mitsuki caught up with him to apologize and ask about his eye [since she had left him behind expecting him to go to the hospital] so her not having the change to apologize before is bullshit, yet the fact that SHE is asking about HIS injury that happened 3 whole years ago, while Boruto doesnt even ask about an injury she had a day ago and just been released from the hospital, is absolutely insane.

He cared about her so much he made her run for MILES afterwards while he flew, AFTER SHE WAS JUST RELEASED FROM THE HOSPITAL. ‘But Code had claw marks all over the village’ yea and the same way he could’ve saw Boruto fly down and carry her outside the village, is the same way he saw Sarada look up and start running in that direction outside the village, Code could’ve followed them either way, all he had to do was see her look up, look at the direction she was looking, see Boruto, and followed them right to their new meeting spot. Get outta here with that excuse.

He cared about her so much he didnt meet her to warn her about Code and to be careful, but to tell her to let it happen, to get taken, just hold onto these pins and he’ll teleport to her, and if anything goes wrong, his backup plan? Just dont lose hope. So in the case of the pins getting taken away where Boruto cant get to her, which is exactly what happened, she’s pretty much supposed to just figure it out, she’s on her own now.

Her vs Code, Jura, and Hidari, 3 ppl she’s literally lost to already, she can totally take care of herself right? Foh.

Boruto left her with 3 ppl that if his plan failed she stood NO chance against solo, and he took that risk anyway, but yea, tell me how much he ‘cares’ about her and dont play about her safety.

In a choice between saving Sasuke sooner, and keeping his promise to keep Sarada safe, he chose Sasuke, and if putting her at risk helped him save him sooner, he was more willing to risk her life than risk Sasuke potentially dying. Even knowing that ISNT what Sasuke would want, that he’d prioritize keeping his daughter safe, BORUTO wanted to save Sasuke MORE than he wanted to keep Sarada safe, this is an indisputable fact atp.

He didn't even bother making her an active part of the plan either.

Cuz she wasnt intended to be, she was meant to be bait and thats exactly what she was, bait, only thing is Boruto wasnt expecting Code to yank it off the hook and get away with it but hey, he didnt exactly plan for in case that happened either did he? He just threw her on the hook and assumed Code would fall for his trap, and when he didnt, oh…well shet I didnt think that far ahead.

The pins were barely a safety net and he didn't bother thinking about the possibility they could be stolen.

I said this before and I’ll say it again…he wears them shets OPENLY practically ADVERTISING what they use is, it wasnt hard to figure out since obviously you’d expect to sense Boruto’s chakra on Boruto right? Nothin weird, but when he gives the pins to OTHER ppl with HIS chakra embedded in them, no shit Code or anyone else with chakra senses would take notice that hey, why is Boruto’s chakra comin off her? And immediately take notice of the pins being the source of it.

Its so danm stupid, because now thanks to noticing that, it wasnt rocket science to be like oooooh so thats how he teleports, thats why he always wears those things, it all makes sense now.

Like yea no shit, the pins he always wears on his clothes has his chakra, this girl suddenly has Boruto’s chakra coming off her, these pins are what has Boruto’s chakra on them, the only reason she would have these and why they would have his chakra is for him to get to her.

This is why it was beyond stupid of Boruto to make this plan, because on him, he atleast has the cover of its his chakra on his body, nothing out of the ordinary there.

But giving his chakra to Sarada? And thinking Code wouldnt notice? That was beyond stupid, of course he’d sense it, and of course he’d figure out thats what he uses to teleport and immediately know it was a reverse trap.

Listen Code is stupid on alot of things, but he’s not THAT danm stupid, I mean he was smart enough to target Sarada since she was seemingly an important person to him that he would come out of hiding for, he was smart enough to use the Mamushi invasion to plant claw marks all over the village while Kawaki was distracted and too busy to be able to go around shrinking them, he was smart enough to wait near Bug to try and ambush Boruto since he knew he was coming to save him, he was smart enough to retreat and go get some leverage once Boruto saw through his ambush, he was smart enough to not just hastily jump out at Sarada until she was alone with no witnesses.

So Code is dumb in alot of ways, but hes not brain dead stupid, and for Boruto to of witnessed all of that and actually think that Code was just gonna fall right into his trap perfectly was the REAL brain dead stupidity.

You NEVER underestimate your opponent, ESPECIALLY when your friends LIFE is on the line.

Her being kidnapped is on him (and her for not reacting tbh) but yay, he chased after her with a blank look on his face so he's in love with her!

This will never not be funny, because they act like him immediately going after her was some type of ultimate show of his love for her

Bruh, wtf was he SUPPOSED to do? Wait? Tf did they expect him to do? NOT go after Sarada immediately to call off the plan KK just TOLD him would fail? Was he supposed to just sit on his ass and not give her any heads up? He literally TOLD her to get kidnapped because he THOUGHT they would succeed, so why tf would he not do anything knowing that if Code pops up she’s not gonna fight back? Its so danm stupid.

This is as stupid as saying that because Kawaki was helping to take down the Mamushi’s that means he’s inlove with Ada since she was his target, so him killing the Mamushi’s is proof that he cares about and loves her 😭 like do you see what a huge stupid leap in logic this is? You cannot just claim a LOGICAL response to something = being inlove with someone

Like Inojin saving Hima’s life is not proof he was inlove with her, KK asking Inojin if he had romantic feelings for her, and him blushing and KK being like ok well your reaction is enough and I already know the answer, was the proof that he indeed does like her.

Having the logical response to something isnt proof of love, obviously we all know Boruto cares about Sarada, he doesnt want her life to be in danger, Boruto cares about all his friends and dont wan their lives in danger either, nobody is saying that Boruto doesnt give af about Sarada, of course he does.

What we are saying is he doesnt care ENOUGH, what we are saying is despite him caring about her, he didnt care enough about her not to put her life at risk with no back up plan, what we are saying is he doesnt care enough about her to even react in an actual seriously concerned way considering the situation, he reacted more strongly to Sasuke’s sword being touched than Sarada being taken WITH NO WAY FOR HIM TO GET TO HER.

Now you could say oh well we’ll see his true reaction next chapter, or well when her eye exploded he reacted strongly then so it doesnt matter, thats proof enough.

Bruh…her eye exploded and she passed out, Boruto didnt know wtf happened, she was unresponsive, completely limp, he’s NEVER seen that happen before, he didnt know WHAT happened, HOW hurt she was, IF she would be ok, and he had the reasonable response of freaking the hell out, I mean bro was being asked what happened and he was yelling ‘I DONT KNOW!!!’ And yall think this was out of some great concern just because it was her it happened to? Of course not, if KAwaki’s eye exploded suddenly out of nowhere and he passed out unresponsive, he’d freak out the exact same way cuz he doesnt know wtf happened or how bad his condition is, this is why when Hima healed Sarada, Boruto calmed down and handed her over to Konohamaru now that he knew she’d be ok.

It’d be weirder if he DIDNT freak out in that scenario, but now was the time for him to show a non general reaction he would have to anyone in that predicament, but a situation where its specifically SARADA it happened to BECAUSE of something HE suggested, danger that specifically HE put her in, a situation that happened specifically BECAUSE of him.

So if there was ever a time to show Sarada was a special case to him, now was that time, now was the time for him to panic not because of a situation that caught him off guard that he had no idea what was going on, but a situation where he knows EXACTLY whats going on and who’s to blame for it, himself.

So if she was so special to him, he should’ve been just as panicked if not MORE paniced for a situation that is completely unpredictable, sure KK knows and he can ask him, but BORUTO doesnt know atm, this is all sudden, unexpected, the danger is HIGH and he’s just been told its gonna fail, that Sarada is in serious danger now if he doesnt act now, but he’s too late, Sarada’s gone and he cant save her.

His reaction should’ve been nothing less than this

Even if he didnt cry, bro should’ve been shaking, in shock, just complete despair, hell even him screaming makes sense in this scenario because theres so much at play here

He got scared after seeing what happened when Bugs thorn bulb rotted, KK told him to burn it into his brain and he did, he panicked worrying of what could happen to Sasuke and got impatient, he wanted to find the shinju hideout NOW and get the bulb back to him asap, by any means necessary.

So KK gave him the idea, he didnt tell him to, but Boruto got the idea that since Code was gonna target Sarada, he could use that to find the shinju hideout and save Sasuke, he doesnt say this, but its no coincidence that right after seeing what happens when a thorn soul bulb rots that he immediately all of a sudden wants to find the shinju hideout and is willing to risk his friends life to do it.

So he has the fear and panic from seeing what happened to Bug in his mind, now thanks to KK he has an idea of how to prevent that for his master and how to save him sooner, use Sarada as bait in a hasty and extremely risky plan.

He’ll save Sasuke, save Sarada, he’ll reunite Sasuke with his daughter, and he’ll reunite with his master, and he’ll of officially kept his promise right?

Well no, not only did his plan fail and therefore his plan to save Sasuke, but he also cant save Sarada, therefore breaking his promise to his master to look after her for him, which he broke by even coming up with this plan to begin with BUT he had planned to save her so TECHNICALLY he was still gonna keep his promise right?

Well he didnt, he failed to save Sasuke, failed to protect Sarada, and he broke his promise to his master, and he broke his promise to Sarada too, and now Sarada is in serious danger and its ALL HIS FAULT.

I think now is probably the BEST possible time for Boruto to have this break down, like he deadass should’ve been in utter despair when he heard it would fail, he should’ve looked panicked, and when he teleported and saw her gone without the pins, it should’ve been complete despair.

His under reaction to this situation is extremely questionable, he has a more visceral response to just Sasuke’s sword being touched, than he does his childhood friend being taken because of a situation HE put her in.

Again, nobodys arguing he doesnt care about her, what we are saying is he doesnt care ENOUGH, and his under reaction about what happened to her is very strange and if anything, even MORE proof of him not being inlove with her, cuz he should’ve crashed out if thats the case.

Not saying all crashouts are because of romantic love, I mean Naruto crashed out over Sasuke several times, Im just saying if your gonna argue he’s inlove with her, then crashing out over this is the bare minimum.

[raveneira]

I dont think livingtruth3 deactivated/deleted their account, they most likely changed their username yet again. They're still lurking here somewhere.

I know, I have a few accs in mind as well, but I wont name them, just watch and wait for now to see what they do.

But honestly…isnt this tiring? Like What do you gain from this? Theres gotta be a better use of your time.

[raveneira]

Bye not them reporting this situation about allseeingghost saying you or Axtro harassed them to the point they’re off of tumblr.

You can’t tell me whoever is behind all of this isn’t getting what they want out of you so they want to go to other blogs about it so they can trash on you or Axtro…it’s sad asf.

If they don’t know anything and only looking on the outside then they shouldn’t even comment on it.

The irony is I didnt even harass them, they could make that claim about axtro since she exposed them, and others who also name dropped them, but me? I was literally playing dumb the entire time, I never said their name, never accused them, I even went AGAINST the ppl telling me it was them, it was all an act from me of course but because of that, where exactly could they say I harassed them? What posts did I name drop them? Where did I say they were guilty? Where did I report them?

I did absolutely nothing and let them expose themselves, the only post I have on them is when I finally concluded they had to be the culprit, and even then I didnt harass them, I was explaining my suspicions, how I concluded they were guilty, and I even APOLOGIZED if by some chance I got the wrong person, that I mean no harm if they indeed are innocent, but better safe than sorry.

I even said to block me, Axtro, and everyone else who name dropped them if we got it wrong, if their innocent and being wrongly accused, block us, start fresh, they go their way and we go ours, but this way they wont have to deal with false accusations, and we’ll have peace of mind not having to keep wondering if their the culprit.

Does that sound like harassment? Does that sound like I just baselessly came after them? No.

So even if they can try and make that argument about everyone else who name dropped them, they cant for me, and this just further proves to me that this really was all orchestrated by them, because every single move they make is one a guilty party would make.

I’ve been unfairly targeted this entire time, did I go reporting anybody? No, I stood by my innocence, stayed public, didnt run or hide cuz I did nothing wrong, I had nothing to hide, and I even encouraged thoroughly investigating me to prove it.

So if your innocent, why you changing names? Why you running? Why you hiding? Why you covering your tracks? Why you reporting harassment you never even received from me? The fact that I keep being brought up for things I never did or participated in is just proving their guilt more and more

So like I said in another post, go ahead and report me, I got nothing to hide, nobodies running me off tumblr for something I didnt do, so if their ‘being run off’ its not because their innocent and being wrongfully accused, its cuz they’ve been found out.

And spoiler alert, I dont believe they ran off, their still here, just in hiding, hell I even have some accs in mind Im suspicious of, but I wont say what they are for obvious reasons, we name drop them, they run and hide and change identities again.

But eventually they’ll get tired of this cat and mouse game, its gotta get boring eventually so Im just gonna wait it out, eventually they’ll go away and either find a new target, or just ya know, get a life outside of fandom beef.

[raveneira]

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Someone is reporting your blog to someone else about this whole allseeingghost situation and say Sarada fans are toxic and said they left because they were getting accused of “bullying” without no proof. Now there is no proof exactly other than Axtro getting into a altercation with other them then suddenly you started to get asks about Axtro and them “bullying/harassing” people but there is no proof because #1 there is an Anonymous not revealing them selves.

The only time it actually makes sense if people start to connect the dots of what led to the situation which started either Axtro and allseeingghost drama and that stopped then somehow traveled to you!

First off you’re nothing like the Sarada fans people usually complain about. They don’t know anything about the situation and how it started. Nobody said Allseeingghost is a bully, if I understood someone said they’re ACTING like one. Their behavior. Allseeinghost most likely kept coming to your Anons or probably some of their mutuals keep attacking you about the situation, accusing Axtro of bullying and harassing people who is a Sumire fan btw and they accused you of enabling that bullying and harassing behavior.

They’re only looking on the outside,and not the inside and they don’t even know you’re a anti bsa or critical Sarada/ikemoto despite sarada being one of your favorite characters when kishimoto was writing her. So, if they’re not actually in the situation from the start or actually looking deep into it then they shouldn’t comment on it especially when they don’t understand and thinking you just pushed this person to leave tumblr as if you started when you never did and randomly gotten dragged.

I cant prove for 100% fact because of them being anon alot of the time and even changing names, but this is what I’ve concluded and believe is what happened based on everything we do know and what we have to theorize off of.

There was a situation between Axtro and ghost, possibly linking from the situation on ksu that happened on twitter where Axtro gave her opinion, and that fandom got pissed at her [again, apologies if thats the wrong pronoun] and accused her of bullying and trying to police what they could and couldnt ship

Someone here asked me about it and I gave my thoughts on it and that was the end of it, I never spoke about it about it again after that cuz to my understanding, it was over, it happened in June, they had their little twitter tantrum, Axtro said her piece, gave my two cents when asked about it, end of story right?

Fastforward to July and suddenly Im approached about Axtro and being accused of running a bullying campaign using my ‘stans’ and ‘fake accs’ to do so, at first I genuinely thought no way it could be about the June situation cuz thats literally a month ago, no way this is still about that petty beef right? But the more they confronted me about it, the more I started to believe that was the case, because they kept bringing up Axtros name, and thats the only beef with Axtro I was aware of that happened, so it could only be about that.

But for the time being I played ignorant because I wanted THEM to tell me SPECIFICALLY what it was about, but the more I asked, the more they refused to say WHAT actually happened and WHY their approaching me about it.

So this is what I think happened, Axtro and ghost had beef, ghost is probably someone from the ksu situation, or related to it in some way, followed Axtro to tumblr and they continued the beef here, then they probably took notice of Axtro interacting with me and liking my posts, went to my account, and possibly scrolled around and saw that ask about the situation and me being on Axtros side, so they deemed me an enemy based on that and thats what sparked the accusations of me being in kahoots with Axtro in a bullying campaign, because its awful strange that thats the exact accusation Axtro got on twitter in the ksu situation, they accused her of bullying, and now suddenly Axtros name is dropped, and Im accused of the same? That was way too weird to be a coincidence.

So the animosity towards me came from their hostility towards Axtro, and since she interacted with me often, and they saw I was on her side, they directed their anger at me as well.

My theory is they were mad they couldnt run off Axtro entirely like they wanted and get her to back down, so they tried to do that to me, they thought they could ‘expose’ me and ‘shame’ me into caving or giving some admission of guilt, they wanted to catch me slipping, they wanted to run me off and make me back down as well but it didnt work.

Then theres the constant mention of my ‘stans’, something even I wasnt aware of, like when did I get stans? And who are they? And how the hell would a simple commentary blog giving my opinion on things get me stans? Like who stans someone for their opinion? Thats just weird

But when you think about it, it makes sense if you view it from a different perspective, the reason they were fixated on my ‘stans’ wasnt because any real stans existed, it was the fact that ppl agreed with me, more than just a small handful, and that my takes and perspectives gave ppl hope that otherwise would’ve felt disheartened and gave up since it seemed like they were all alone in their thought process, but I proved they werent.

Not to make myself sound important obviously, but what Im basically saying is Im a vocal minority, a minority many in this fandom WANTS to get rid of and silence entirely, and for the most part they succeeded because many are too scared of them to be public, but I throw a monkey wrench in that because I dont give af, Im one acc they CANT run off but have tried to for years now and it always failed and they HATE it.

Its not so much that Im important, its that Im a thorn in their side, because I refuse to go away, refuse to pipe down, refuse to let them ‘win’ that Im a problem for them, not just because of me personally, but because the ppl they tried to run off and silence gravitate towards me, I give them hope, I give them a reason to believe that hey it aint over till its over, you dont have to cave to the assholes trying to intimidate you, and most of all their more than welcome to come to me and express the things they dont feel they can publicly without being attacked, I offer them a safe space to do so, and they get to see a similar perspective.

They dont want this fandom to be active, and more than that they dont want to see this fandom be HOPEFUL or have ANYONE fighting for them, especially loudly, no they want us silent and cowering in fear but they dont get that from me, and I encourage others not to as well, and if they do then thats fine, let me bare the brunt of the hate and be their voice FOR them cuz I dont give a danm.

Again, not trying to be conceited or claim Im this big deal, but this fandom HATES ppl who dont fall in line, they are the most vicious and entitled mfs I’ve ever seen in a fanbase, so even if it wasnt me, if it were someone else thats a vocal minority they would direct their hatred at them as well.

So its not about the who, its about the WHY.

So the summary of my theory is this, they were angry at Axtro, saw our interactions, saw I was on Axtro side, and then directed their anger at me as well, the reason most likely being that Axtro and me were both vocal minorities that didnt fall in line, so the goal was to try and beat us both down until they successfully ran us both off, making the fandom lose two of their most vocal voices and beacons of hope that hey, things seem bad, but things could still get better over time right? All hopes not lost yet, and even if the worst case scenario happens who cares? Nobody should have to feel bad for preferring something even if it isnt canon, and you dont have to be bullied into accepting canon if you dont want to, to hell with them.

Again this isnt me being conceited, I cant stretch that enough, but you can literally look at the fandom and how they move and see for yourself that they DESPERATELY want to silence opposition, they CONSTANTLY look at accs and posts and art and so on of ships they KNOW THEY DONT LIKE and yet they go there relentlessly to harass and berate and intimidate the fans of those things.

So if it wasnt about running ppl off then they would mind their danm business, but the constant and consistent harassment is more than enough proof that they arent satisfied with just ‘winning’, they want YOU to feel like shit as well, if your not with them, then your their enemy and they want to be rid of you.

So again, its not about me or even axtro being important, its what we represent, for a fandom that claims the ultimate superiority over all others they prove time and time again just how scared they are of their opposition.

Keep in mind we’re the MINORITY, and yet they fear us, insecurity on full display because why are you even bothered? Why do you care? Its just way too obvious that despite them doing the intimidating, THEIR the ones who are actually intimidated, not because we’re doing any actual intimidation, but just our existence alone intimidates them.

They were on top for 3 years with no competition, and what little there was wasnt taken seriously, and there were no other ships that even remotely touched them in popularity so they got used to feeling untouchable and having no other fandoms to compete or press them.

And ever since that feeling of being untouchable was broken, they’ve never got over it and have been throwing a tantrum ever since. Their like the only child that got used to having all the spoils for themselves and then got unexpected siblings they didnt want and become brats cuz its not all about them anymore and they gotta share.

Thats pretty much what I sum the basis of this entire debacle on, resentment for me and Axtro because we dont fall in line so they lashed out with this whole conspiracy about us running a bullying campaign that all along they were really running.

Well Im not fallin for it, I’ve already said if this is indeed a misfire then I truly apologize and they have my sympathy, but Im not gonna be foolish and naive enough to ignore all the red flags that point to them, even how they moved is how a guilty party would move, and all the random sudden accs poping up and disapearing shortly after, accs that seemingly is fixated on me and axtro, all of it is way too weird and it ONLY started to occur after allseeingghost was name dropped and then livingtruth as well, why did suspicious behavior and occurrences always happen only when those names dropped? And why the sudden running and hiding? I didnt go anywhere when I was accused, I stood 10 toes down that I was innocent because I was and I wasnt gonna run away or hide as if I wasnt, even when told I was being investigated, I said go tf ahead I got nothin to hide.

There was even an acc that briefly popped up called theravenhub or something along those lines that appeared in my notifs that strangely disappeared right afterwards before I checked them out, and this is not long after they once again changed identities, and Im supposed to believe this is all just a coincidence? An acc called theravenhub pops up and then vanishes before it could even be investigated? Asks calling me evil cropping up after I expose I figured all along it was them?

Sorry but thats all too suspicious to be a coincidence, and it always coincides with their name being dropped, as well as when they change names.

Hell theres another acc Im suspicious of as well that popped up suddenly but Im not gonna name who it is, but I have my eye on them as well for the time being since the timing does match up with the other weird accs that popped up behavior.

Regardless tho, I believe this whole thing really is over shipping, their claiming its about a supposed bullying campaign being lead by us, but really it all boils down to their own dislike for us, and we literally did nothing to them personally, so what reason could they have for disliking us? It could only be over shipping, and if its connected to that ksu situation with axtro, then thats your danm proof right there that thats what this is about.

So Im just gonna say this, your right that we dont have HARD proof as in actual traces left by their accs, cuz they deleted/changed names several times, and all of their actual attacks were done on anon, so they made sure to hide so this stuff couldnt be linked back to them.

But it doesnt have to be a direct link to any one name, you can come to this conclusion based on the suspicious behavior alone, keep note of the patterns, pay attention to what they say and how it adds up, so I dont NEED an actual acc to link everything back to, I just need your own actions to speak for themselves and they did.

So now Im being reported for defending myself and realizing who was the one hurling attacks at me…typical lol this has literally happened to me once before, someone started shit, I laid a trap to verify if who I suspected was really a stalker, and they proved me right by running back to their leader ‘reporting’ me to them.

History truly does repeat itself. Well let them report me, I did nothing wrong and I encouraged nobody else to do anything wrong either, I made that clear in several of my posts that I dont encourage bullying, and to tread carefully in their investigation on my behalf because I didnt want it to ‘prove them right’ that I was using my ‘stans’ to run a bullying campaign, and I made clear that you guys did this on your OWN from your OWN desire to try and help figure out the situation, not told or ‘commanded’ by me to go on some witch hunt unjustifiably, yall wanted to help and I appreciated it, but I made it clear that I had no malicious intent in any of it, because I know they were just waiting for me to say anything that even remotely looked like me encouraging bullying so they could frame me.

But they didnt get it, and they wont ever get it, because I never do and never will.

So let them go ahead and report me, TRY to find something where I encouraged ppl to attack anyone just try it.

Im not scared and I never will be, I’ve been the victim the entire time in this situation and thats the indisputable truth, so let them go ahead and report to whoever they wanna report to, I dare anyone to find evidence of where I did any wrongdoing because unlike them I aint changing my name and Im not going anon, Im right here, so come at me.

[raveneira]

Axtrowrld has and made many enemies on X. So how do you know it was allseeingghost. Ghost had disagreements with people, but she was never ever toxic. I can tell that Axtrowrld has something against ghost. None of allseeinghost's ask and posts she likes were toxic and/or hateful.

Let me ask you this, Did she ever in your comment section in any of your posts being toxic?

#witchhunt

That's literally stalker 101, use one acc to act cordial and lead into a false sense of security, while using a burner acc to do all the dirty work.

Takes the suspicion off of you, and if your caught, you can say exactly what your saying right now 'when has that acc ever been seen being toxic?'

Listen I know the game, I've been in this fandom long enough to know how this stuff goes, I've literally been a victim of it 3 times now, and you think I'm stupid enough to fall for something so easily explainable?

I didn't reach this conclusion based on simply one or two factors, I watched, I waited, I looked for patterns, weird behaviors, suspicious actions, I followed the trail they thought I wouldn't notice, and thoroughly narrowed down all possible other suspects so I COULD clear their name if they were really innocent, but unfortunately it all came back to them.

So this was not a simple ppl accused that acc so I just believed them, no, I paid attention, and that's how I reached this conclusion, because it all leads back to them.

Like I said in my other post, if by some miracle this is wrong then you have my sympathy, genuinely, but better safe than sorry, and I'd advise the same for anyone else.

Would you rather be naive and trust someone you'll always wonder if they were guilty? or go ahead risk a misfire, but atleast be at peace without that doubt weighing on your mind? I'd advise everyone to act on what's most beneficial for their mental health, and if you are innocent and feel this is a witch hunt then block everyone accusing you, myself included, and just start fresh elsewhere.

It'll be rough, but if your really innocent then it shouldn't be too hard for you to make a fresh start since you have nothing to hide right?

That's a rhetorical question btw, only you know the answer to that.

[raveneira]

Wait, there's no Boruto chapter next? What's going on?

Yeah no chapter next month

Wont get a new chapter till September, why I dunno, Ikemoto probably need a break or somethin.

[raveneira]

But then I thought you shipped BoruSar* thank god your not one of them just a normal fan of Sarada

Hell no, what gave you that idea? Where do you think the anti-bsa tag came from? Its literally what I tag all my posts to keep it from showing up in the borusara tag [its a weird bug but even if you tag anti-borusara it somehow shows up in the borusara tag anyway, so I tag anti-bsa out of courtesy]

The Boruto ships I support is BoruSumi and BoruMitsu, the Sarada ships I like are KawaSara and MitsuSara, I despise BoruSara so dont get that twisted at all

But yea, I am a normal fan of Sarada, I have Sarada ships I like, but Im able to separate my shipping preference from my individual feeling about Sarada as her own character, something unfortunately THAT fanbase fails to do 99% of the time.

I have a Carrd on my twitter that pretty much goes over all my interests and preferences in terms of characters and ships, but I’ll make a separate one for this tumblr here so anyone who doesnt fully know what my stance is can look at that.

But yes, please dont consider me a Bsa shipper, thats like one of the highest forms of disrespect you could throw at me 😭

[raveneira]

Just don't answer that anon's ask of accusation. I think it's a waste of time, especially since he/she keeps coming over your asks and harass you for no reason. That anon is a true definition of why people need to touch grass outside, cuz a discourse over Boruto of all things is crazy. Just ignore that anon.

I will now, but I doubt they’ll be coming back after being exposed so here’s hoping its finally over.

If not, I just no longer engage since I know now who the culprit is, no more need to try and weed them out.

But your absolutely right, some ppl really do have way too much time on their hands to waste on someone/something they dont like, thats gotta be a miserable way to live and conduct yourself.

[raveneira]

What do you think of the idea that Sumire is a foil to Koji? It doesn’t make sense to me

Well for starters, a foil character is usually to the protagonist, it isnt always, but more often than not its the protagonist so thats number 1.

Number 2, even if it isnt, Koji is the LAST person Sumire would be a foil to, it doesnt make sense for her to be, this is more accurate if you say she is a foil to Amado, which is another stretch, but atleast it has more basis for it to fit.

They are both scientists, but Amado is a selfish scientist who is only out for his own ends and has a the ends justifies the means mentality, and is willing to sacrifice whatever and whoever he needs to to achieve his goals, and use any kind of dark science to do it.

Sumire is selfless, she wants to use science to help ppl like Katasuke, she wants to support the village, and support Boruto, and even Kawaki who she didnt know personally, yet still wanted to help him.

She wanted to ease his pain, she shadowed Katasuke learning how to work on him, and then shadowed Amado to learn even more.

When noticing how suspicious Amado was, Sumire made it her mission to keep an eye on him, we can talk about how terribly that was written but the point is thats what she set her mind to doing, not just cuz she was worried about Boruto, but Kawaki as well, and she questioned Amado on his true intentions.

Amado calls her stupid for this which yea true, never let your suspect know you suspect them, but the point is that Sumire was concerned about their wellbeing and pressed Amado on it.

Put Amado in her position and he wouldnt care, if anything he’d see how HE could gain from it, same with helping Isshiki, and the ONLY reason he betrayed him was because he realized Isshiki wouldnt actually help him achieve his goal, if he did, Amado would’ve never backstabbed him.

So if Sumire was a suspicious person, and Amado approached them on it, if she had a way to help him achieve his goal he wouldnt give af what she planned to do to Boruto or Kawaki, same way he didnt give a danm what Isshiki did to the kids he kidnapped and how many of them he helped him kill, as long as he thought he would benefit in the end, fk them kids.

Sumire would never do that, if Amado told Sumire right now that if she killed Kawaki that he could pretty much fix Boruto’s entire life, she wouldnt do it because that would be selfish.

He’s Boruto’s brother, Kawaki technically isnt the enemy, Boruto wants to make amends, and killing someone just to make the guy she likes life easier is just insane and this fandom would 100% call her a psychopath if she did it, even tho majority of them hate Kawaki anyway, they’d still say shes a crazy Boruto obsessed maniac borderline yandere.

But Sumire would never do that, if Amado said to sacrifice 100 kids even to bring her mother back she still wouldnt do it, cuz shes not that cruel, as much as she might want something, she’s not gonna sacrifice someone else to achieve it, because the ends doesnt justify the means for her, but it does for Amado.

So if anything, I’d say Sumire is a foil to Amado, not Koji, she’s the kind of scientist Amado would never be.

Sure he’s probably much smarter and more experienced than her in the field, but that isnt because he’s simply better at science and more intelligent, but because of the LINES he’s willing to cross to make the progress that he’s made.

So its not that Sumire just isnt or cant be on his level, she definitely could be, but it’d require the same ruthlessness and cruelty and SACRIFICES that Amado is willing to make, that Sumire isnt.

She lags behind because she isnt willing to make progress over the dead bodies of others, over the non consensual experimentation of others, she wants to do things humanely, and this is why Amado is ahead.

Its the same as Orochimaru, Katasuke obviously pales in comparison to Orochimaru, even with ALL his technological advancements, aint nobody touching Orochimaru in the science field, because whatever lines Amado crossed, Orochimaru crossed even more and BEYOND, which is why his scientific achievements eclipses anything Amado or Katasuke combined have achieved.

So being fair to Sumire, her lacking compared to Amado isnt because of some inferiority in intelligence or capability, but a difference in how far she’s willing to go to achieve certain things that requires a certain level of cruelty she isnt willing to inflict on anyone to achieve.

This is what makes her a good foil to Amado, if she indeed is, because it opens the door for her to achieve things Amado did without stooping to his level and potentially even surpassing him in her own way, with her own selfless form of science.

Unfortunately this potential is left in the hands of Ikemoto, so even if its there, it means nothing if Ikemoto doesnt capitalize on it.

I believe maybe, just MAYBE Kodachi PROBABLY had that in mind and was laying the groundwork for that to come into play over time, but unfortunately, Ikemoto doesnt seem like, atleast at the moment, that he isnt really following up on that how he should if this was indeed the plan in NNG before he took over, then Ikemoto isnt following up on it the way he should.

[raveneira]

Livingtruth took her page down or changed names again. They saw the posts and must’ve contacted you to confess. Axtro hasn’t posted/deleted to clear anything up about them so it’s unlikely axtro changed her mind… feel like we’re all turning into detectives. & if livingtruth ran that means she was allseeingghost

I’ve concluded the same thing as well

Yall really were some detectives fr tho lol for me I only had suspicions, but yall were ON IT like nah we KNOW and had a whole court case prepared.

It might’ve seemed like I wasnt doing much, but I was just doing my own investigation quietly, since Axtro already knew the jig was up, they probably came after me thinking that I wouldnt put it together, which I pretended I didnt, but I had suspicions long before this.

They, and with yalls helpful detective work also, pretty much confirmed all my suspicions true.

So I am truly grateful for yalls help, nobody had to get involved and could’ve just minded their business like ‘well thats her drama to work out not ours’, but no, yall really took the time out to try to help and get to the bottom of this when you didnt have to and for that I am truly grateful, and I cant speak for Axtro, but Im sure she [sorry if thats the wrong pronoun] appreciates what yall did to try and help as well.

[raveneira]

https://www.tumblr.com/raveneira/818636561750032384/ill-just-keep-it-here-and-come-back-if-it-turns?source=share

Ayyy above anon, crumbs in ch36 as predicted (if we squint?) congratssss Kawaki shining in the start and the end of the story! Full Karma version Kawaki, and Kawaki hinted at prolly learning about Code kidnapping Sarada (?)

delulu is solulu asf

Ayyyyye I forgot all about that, they were actually cookin after all lol I mean it might not have been as much as they were expecting, but I mean anything at all is a miracle, especially since they calculated it to happen by this exact pattern 😭 anons lowkey a genius.

Lets not get too ahead of ourselves tho cuz you never know with Ikemoto, lets be chill and wait to see what 37 has in store…which is a month from now…lets just chillax and not count chickens too early, but we can still be excited and enjoy what we have to go off of for now.

[raveneira]

Raven, a blog posted livingtruth3 bullying pattern and im disappointefd that you were involved and didnt try to tell them to stop. what is really going on here?

I wasnt involved, and I couldnt tell them to stop, that would’ve revealed I knew and scared them off before exposing themselves to me.

Refer to this for the full details but no, I wasnt involved, and I didnt tell them to stop for a reason, I wanted proof first and I got it.

So if you wanna know what was really going on, the short version is I was feigning ignorance, bidding my time, laying traps, and waiting for them to slip up with me. Sadly yall had to get fooled too, I needed to keep up the stupid and naive act until I had something concrete and now I do.

So thats what was going on, sorry if my behavior seemed weird, but I genuinely meant no harm, I believed yall from the start, I just needed to confirm my suspicions for myself and I did, and yall helped me do that, so thank you for that.