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mildly dreading GxK because I feel like if I like it, it'll be a "bad movie" and if I don't like it, it'll be a "good movie" and so either way my opinion won't matter. but like man. I want to be excited again yk
The prophecy was fulfilled.
mildly dreading GxK because I feel like if I like it, it'll be a "bad movie" and if I don't like it, it'll be a "good movie" and so either way my opinion won't matter. but like man. I want to be excited again yk
GxK was a lot of fun and might be my new favorite MonsterVerse film, definitely my favorite with Godzilla in it.
sometimes I lie awake at night thinking about how wrong I was about Godzilla: King of the Monsters and how humiliated I still feel about it
mildly dreading GxK because I feel like if I like it, it'll be a "bad movie" and if I don't like it, it'll be a "good movie" and so either way my opinion won't matter. but like man. I want to be excited again yk
The third movie in today's feel good birthday movie marathon is Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019), the final movie in the Monsterverse.
...Yep.
Last one.
This is where it ended.
Yes.
Michael Dougherty made this movie like it was his one and only shot to make a Godzilla movie, and while it's a tad overstuffed because of that, to be fair, it sadly has been his one and only shot to make a Godzilla movie, so it was pretty prescient of him in retrospect.
Fuck though, I'd kill for another Mike Dougherty Godzilla movie. I'd do unspeakable things for it. In an ideal world, there'd be fifty Mike Dougherty Godzilla movies and fifty Birds of Prey movies and Zack Snyder's film career would have ended with his shitty Dawn of the Dead remake.
Before this film came out, Vera Farmiga was my ideal casting pick for Dr. Lerna in ATOM, so seeing her play a very driven kaiju researcher in this was kind of ironic. It's like she's playing the evil mirror universe version of Dr. Lerna, basically.
The fucking dumbass who scored the Kong Skull Island sequel recently went on twitter to claim that the classic Godzilla theme can't work in a modern, Hollywood Godzilla movie, and, like... this movie exists, though! One of the only things Godzilla's shitty self-hating fanbase agrees on is that the soundtrack for Godzilla: King of the Monsters is fucking DYNAMITE, and it is LOADED with classic themes from the original movies, remixed and reorchestrated sure but used expertly. Godzilla's theme is so iconic not only in this movie, but in general, to the point where it was sampled in a fucking popular rap song and none of the normies thought it was out of place!
It's not the theme that's the problem, Mr. Xtra Large Junkie. It's your lack of imagination.
...
also Mr. Xtra Large Junkie the theme you did make for Godzilla in the Kong: Skull Island sequel just sounded like the store brand oreo's version of the classic Godzilla theme. The fucking Double o's of monster music. The Chocolate Crisped Rice Cereal to the original's Cocoa Crispies. A room temperature can of Family Fare Cola when we want a Coke.
I mean, if you want to write Godzilla a new theme, write him a new theme. But don't trash the classics in the process, especially when yours sounds like the audio equivalent of Sugar Frosted Flaked Corn Cereal.
There's a lot of options for Godzilla theme music, man.
This movie does suffer from the consistent "too many damn characters" problem that all the Monsterverse films suffer from. I feel like if it had a couple sequels that actually followed up on the cast established here it'd feel less glaring, though, and there's a lot to love about the misfits that make up Monarch in this movie. It's a shame this movie never had sequels that explored them in more depth.
People complain about this movie not having a sense of scale like 2014 and I don't buy it, man. Ghidorah's introduction alone does so much to play with scale - the way the camera constantly has to shift and adjust to try and keep all of him in frame, just for his necks and tails and wings to constantly make it realize that he's too big to fit in the shot. It doesn't establish scale with the same cinema tricks of its predecessor, but that's cause it's busy with new tricks of its own.
Where 2014 tried to make kaiju feel immense the way volcanos and tornados feel immense, this one tries to make them feel big in a mythic way, a way that constantly forces us to re-adjust our view of the world and what's possible in it, by way of forcing the camera to readjust to fit the view of the action it can't quite fully capture.
People also get pissy about the mythic elements this movie emphasizes but, like, that has always been a core part of Godzilla. Godzilla has always been a creature of legend as well as a mutant. Hell, you cannot have Mothra, one of the most important characters in Godzilla's pantheon, without a mythic element to the story. Most American-made Godzilla media downplays or flatout ignores this aspect, and it was honestly refreshing to see this movie bring it in and say "Yes, they are biological beings, but yes, they are also gods." Because that's always what kaiju have been.
I still think that sometime in the future - maybe ten years from now - this movie is going to get a reappraisal and be recognized for being a lot smarter than people give it credit for. For all its missteps - most of which I think are fairly minor - it has a lot of stuff it gets right, and a shitload of thought went into it on every level. It may not reach the peaks of stuff like Godzilla Minus One, but I still think it's got a lot in its favor as Godzilla movies go.
While I still think Rodan needs more rehabilitating as a character (he should be Godzilla's near equal at least), this movie did a lot for the old scavenger's reputation by giving him a badass solo rampage scene. Rodan's awakening is often pointed out as a highlight of the movie, and for good reason.
"Godzilla will never fulfill his destiny, nor you yours, until you abandon the illusion of control."
"Illusion?"
"Yes. Look at this tree, Admiral Stenz. I cannot make it blossom when it suits me, nor make it bear fruit before its time."
"But there are things we can control! I can control when the oxygen destroyer will fall! I can control where we drop it in the sea! That is no illusion, Monarch!"
"Yes, but no matter what you do, that seed will grow to be a radioactive giant lizard. You may wish for an apple or an orange, but you will get a lizard."
Ghidorah getting a power up from the Oxygen Destroyer while Godzilla gets harmed by it is such a good plot point that I really wish the movie didn't breeze by it with one quick line of dialogue. Again, would be cool if a sequel to this movie had followed up on it, but unfortunately we'll never know what would come of it.
Most American adaptations of Godzilla make their Mothra analogue just a big, nasty bug, completely divorced from her status as a benevolent protector goddess. So I was and still am so fucking elated that this movie, the first one to get Mothra herself instead of making an expy, chose to not only include those elements, but embrace and enhance them. Mothra appears with a radiance that parts the cloud like a divine messenger of hope and love, as she fucking should. It's a goddamn religious experience, a miracle.
Serizawa's sacrifice is probably the most contentious scene in the movie because of the one reading where it comes off as pro-nuclear weapons, which no Godzilla movie ever should be.
While I wouldn't go so far to say that reading is invalid, I nonetheless disagree with it. The oxygen destroyer's use in this movie is pretty firmly in the "anti-weapons of mass destruction" camp, whereas Serizawa planting a nuke next to Godzilla is clearly intended to be, well, exactly what the original Dr. Serizawa's goal with the original oxygen destroyer was: repurposing something destructive to have a healing, benevolent purpose.
I actually think this movie is doing some really clever shit with Serizawa - his name in 2014 is more or less just a fanservice moment, as in that movie his character has far more in common with Dr. Yamane than Dr. Serizawa. But here, the movie looks at where the Monsterverse's Godzilla and Dr. Serizawa are in terms of characterization and role, and says, "How do we give Dr. Serizawa his defining moment - his sacrifice to save the world, and his moment of odd solidarity with a monster resting and at peace in the process - while keeping true to his and Godzilla's new characterization?"
As in 1954, Godzilla and Serizawa are mirrors of each other, the sole members of their respective groups - monsters and men - who realize that harmony is needed with the other. Godzilla has been mortally wounded by the actions of less enlightened men, and Serizawa has lost friends and coworkers to less enlightened monsters. So Serizawa goes down, alone, on a suicide mission to heal Godzilla, seeing this massive destructive beast in a rare moment of tranquility, and healing him with a weapon that was once used in a failed attempt to kill him. An apology for humanity's sins that gets Godzilla to stop the sins of his own kind in turn.
Man and monster are united by both being part of nature, and their job isn't to control the world but to try and help it stay in balance. Serizawa's enemies want to control everything - Godzilla's rivals want to be tyrants. Harmony rejects these notions. It's all very thematically consistent and one of many reasons I think this movie is underrated on a writing standpoint.
After years of being gaslit against gkotm this post is driving me absolutely insane. (complimentary sense.)
One of the only things Godzilla's shitty self-hating fanbase agrees on is that the soundtrack for Godzilla: King of the Monsters is fucking DYNAMITE, and it is LOADED with classic themes from the original movies, remixed and reorchestrated sure but used expertly.
I can assure you I have seen fans, and intelligent rational ones at that, express the opinion that the GKOTM soundtrack sucks and that sampling Ifukube was a sign of desperation and needless fanservice rather than genuine dynamite.
Yo, I loved Minus One.
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Maybe a hot take, but I think Godzilla 2000 is the best of the millenium era films. I love GMK, Final Wars and mechagodIlla, but G2k cinches it man.
Quirky characters, a scientist, his conscientious daughter, a snarky reporter, smug military commander- two Sekizawa weird girls in one film- the plot of discovering a sinister ufo under the sea. The film is serious but not devoid of levity, charavyers have small simple.arcs but their dialogue and performances make big impressions.
It just nails all of it. Some of the VFX shots are a little iffy, but it totally catches the spirit of the Showa era films in a way that no other modern Godzilla has. It just clears man. I want more films that feel like it. Modern, but that same classic, even romantic spirit.
If Godzilla 2000 has 1 million fans, I am one.
If Godzilla 2000 has 100.fans, I am one.
If Godzilla 2000 has 1 fan, it is me.
If Godzilla 2000 has zero fans, I am dead and gone from this bitch of an earth.
I just feel like āMaybe because Godzilla is inside each one of usā is a really weird thing to say when you literally just saw what happened to the last guy who tried to have Godzilla inside him.
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I can't figure out if this is a joke at Toho's current state or specifically a Millennium series joke. I can laugh at the latter. But twenty years after GFW it hits a little different?
Every time someone says they wish they could go to G-FEST, I want to shake them and tell them I've been going for fifteen years and it fucking sucks.
Godzilla: Iām Sowwy
Mechagodzilla: Iām sowwy
Ghidorah: Weāre Sowwy
Hedorah: I am holding this press conference to tell you that Iām awesome and also fuck all of you.
I personally think it would be really funny if Toho just completely stopped for a while. No movies, no games, no toys, no comics, no licensing, no nothing. Just acted like they had no idea people ever even liked their monster movies. The very opposite of brand awareness.
It's really weird when you hear the sort of "good monster action can't save a movie with a trash story" rhetoric and "I like this movie because it's fun and the monster action is good" from the same person/people. I don't have a problem with either statement but it's a weird contrast.
I know this is a cringe comparison to make in 2023, but when I watch Shin Godzilla I feel like Ben Wyatt watching everyone fawn over Lil Sebastian. Yeah, it's a tiny horse, that's interesting, but why does everyone think it's so amazing? What am I missing? It's just a tiny horse!
I can understand this feeling. As someone who has my own issues with the film, every time I've tried to poke around what I'm missing out on it usually is pulled back to the "satire of government bureaucracy" element or some general element of the human story, as well as it generally having darker themes. The odd visuals sometimes come in as well.
I've hid my posts related to the Bandai toy line. I am still deciding on cancelling my preorders or letting them come in and selling them off later. but I don't intend to support any of the 6" toy lines any longer, which probably means I'm done with kaiju collecting.
My last set of preorders came in! Baragon, Ebirah, Shin Gommess, and KG91 remake will be the last additions to my mms toy collection for the foreseeable future.
I'm not completely opposed to picking up another toy or two but I am pretty disgusted with the state of kaiju fandom so this is probably it.
I've hid my posts related to the Bandai toy line. I am still deciding on cancelling my preorders or letting them come in and selling them off later. but I don't intend to support any of the 6" toy lines any longer, which probably means I'm done with kaiju collecting.
Godzilla: Destroy All Monsters Melee (GCN)
