hiya! my name's spooky, rusty for moots. i'm a neurodivergent trans man in my early twenties
currently focused on jayvik. my little fat jayvik AU can be found under the tag!
i'm on the aroace spectrum and i'm not really interested in sex or romance but i like living out my fantasies and kinks via my art, characters, fiction and by myself
posts will come sporadically
i'm not a native english speaker so please excuse some mistakes
my pronouns are he/him only! i don't want anyone to use they/them and especially not she/her for me!! i personally don't lile the term transmasc for myself, please just call me a trans guy/man. not t4t
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literally every anti-feedism take reads like "fat fetishists are bad, we're protecting fat people from them, everyone knows once you get that big it's gross for someone to be attracted to you, plus it's disgusting to want to get fatter because fat is bad/unhealthy/ugly"
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Kink is an inherently political act. Ensuring that all parties have the agency to consent and participate on their own terms, willfully submitting or dominating rather than being forced into a role by the socioeconomic hierarchical status quo is not apolitical. It is a direct contradiction of the dominant social hierarchy. A deeply personal action defined by its focus on consent and self determination in a system which constantly robs people of both.
You cannot practice ethical kink while being a conservative. You cannot practice ethical kink while being a racist. You cannot practice ethical kink while being a sexist. A homophobe. A transphobe. An islamaphobe. You cannot be anti-immigrant, anti-refugee, or anti-asylum seeker while practicing ethical kink. You cannot practice ethical kink while being a theocrat, whether it be Christian, Hindu, or Islamic nationalism or zionism. You cannot practice ethical kink while being a fascist. Holding any ideology which dehumanizes others, or allows for their dehumanization removes ones ability to practice ethical kink.
Gatekeep your submission. Gatekeep your dominance. Don't you dare give it to someone who doesn't respect others.
Bigotry against one is bigotry against all. Keep that shit out of kink. Fuck Donald Trump. Fuck the colonizers. Fuck authoritarianism, fuck racism, fuck misogyny, and fuck queerphobia.
Viktor gets chubbier than Jayce post-canon. Maybe even more than chubby.
Absolutely agree! I love Jayce being the bigger one in the relationship but it’s Viktor’s turn post canon. All those years of being underweight from his illness and neglecting his needs, he deserves to be quite large. Jayce was be very attentive by bringing Viktor his favorite treats from the village or making his favorite meals.
With life being more slow paced and simpler, it would be so easy for Viktor to pack on the pounds. At first Viktor would be quite curious with the little extra cushion that now occupies his body. But he is quick to disregard it, “It’s only a bit of weight…nothing more could come from it.”. While Jayce can barely keep his hands to himself as he loves every inch of Viktor’s pudge.
What started as little bit of cushion quickly became much more than Viktor anticipated. A very bottom heavy Viktor with plush thighs and a large ass that jiggles as he waddles. A large plush belly that both he and Jayce can’t keep their hands off of, with cute little moobs resting atop of his large belly. Jayce imagined he would be the fattest one in their relationship but Viktor happily won that title of fattest partner. But that’s alright by Jayce, the village can see how well he takes care of Viktor by how fat he has become. 🥰
is there a particular kinky scenario that plays in your head on repeat with Viktor and Jayce?
hm, one that is not related to my AU is hucow vik, that has been on my mind a lot. me and @softvampirictummy are planning on working on something, i don't wanna spoil it yet >:3c
but regarding my AU there a lot of scenarios that i wanna explore, i'm just currently in an art block like state bc i drew everything for the jayvik week at once lmao but i'll detail my ideas here, maybe i can get my ass to write about these scenarios someday. some are more nsfw!!!
one of my ideas for the AU was for them to make a miniature version of their home. since i just wanna let them have fun and be able to change size, they can destroy the mini house instead of their actual cottage haha, easier to repair. in their actual home they can still be a barely mobile size but they don't wanna destroy their furniture, but stuckage situations are something i think about at times too. like viktor's wide hips getting stuck in the doorway (on purpose for jayce to find him) or him making jayce suddenly so massive his belly gets him stuck in the hallway and ripping all of the clothes he's currently wearing.
but also, one of them staying at their normal size while the other gets to be a tiny but massive blob, so then they can grow massively fat and not take up too much space. it's a thing vik would enjoy the most to me. giving up the control over to jayce, letting himself be carried around, using his fat body as a stress ball or putting him on his lap or chest while he grows fatter. one imagine that comes into my mind with that is with both of them tiny, but so fat they cover their entire bed together, all their fat squishing against each other. 🖤
or more intense stuffing sessions! jayce personally loves them the most when he's the tiny one but also in general. the way his stomach just rounds out and everything, vik constantly pushing his stomach capacity so he can eat more and more as time goes on as he's just as insatiable to see his belly getting massive as viktor is. especially when the weight just perfectly pushes down on his large fatpad, squishing his dick inside 👀
but vik indulges in being stuffed too, he personally likes more liquid and bound stuffings as his belly is the noisiest then. so since i also enjoy inflation i'd combine it with some liquid inflation. tiny fat vik's tummy gurgling and sloshing so loudly with all the liquid inside and jayce playing and jiggling his fat body so it's not able to calm down. all the while he's unable to move away due to his sunken in limbs and the overall weight of his body. the constant struggle makes his whole body jiggle around even more, he loves it tho.
one scenario i also like is vik being on top of jayce and letting himself grow fatter, slowly smothering his partner. or vik being massive while jayce lays on top of his belly, listening to the sloshing and churning sounds before falling asleep.
jayce is obsessed with viktor's moobs, ass and thighs while viktor is obsessed with his fat face, arms, belly and massive fupa. jayce just loves massaging vik's massive ass, thighs and legs, enjoying the way his cankles bulging around his fat feet and viktor cannot get enough of looking at jayce's huge double chin, the large amount of fat around his upper arms that hinder their movement and how they're stuck at an angle, the way his belly is in an almost constant state of being stuffed or the massive fupa swinging between his legs. when laying in bed, viktor's favourite thing is getting squished by jayce's fat when they're cuddling. something they like to do and document is the difference in their body at the same weight, like how big are their fatpads at 400kg, how do their arms, hands or fingers look, how big are their faces and chins etc 👀
mentioning it here: they practice safe bdsm, they use the trafic light system, have safe words and other nonverbal indications of when it's too much for them!
viktor really likes to be bound during their feeding and stuffing sessions, he loves the way the restraints dig into his fat, though jayce will always be careful with his back and leg! both sometimes like to wear collars, viktor because it makes jayce very possessive and jayce because he loves the way it digs into his neck and the way it makes his cheeks squish.
when they're on the smaller end of their weight they sometimes enjoy regular sex. viktor loves laying on his stomach, lots of pillows below him and his leg to support a more upright position for jayce to reach, and feeling jayce's fatpad squish against his ass while he's trying to fuck him, sometimes it's to big for his dick to even reach. both of them love the feeling of their bellies and fat squishing against each other and the way their bodies ripple every time they move. sometimes mutual masturbation is enough for them, the more interesting stuff just happens at their larger sizes.
like viktor's favourite way of sucking jayce off is when his fupa is swallowing up his dick so much he has to push a lot of it out of the way and practically dive his face deep into it to even attempt at reaching. viktor also loves to just squish his fupa to tease him, as it's really sensitive. at a certain weight it gets so large no matter how much vik tries he cannot get to jayce's burried dick and just resorts to sticking his arm inside. jayce, not expecting that, almost instantly comes from just the sensation of viktors arm inside of it. that makes him realize just how huge it is and it's not even the beginning especially since viktor can go at it for hours. something that heightens those orgasms is when he's stuffing himself while viktor pleasures him. a more dominant way of making viktor suck him off is with viktor laying on his back, face on the edge of their bed while jayce pushes his heavy fupa into his face. sometimes viktor is bound so he's not allowed to touch or use his hands, so it adds a little more difficulty to actually reaching the dick hidden in the fat, when he's able to reach vik is able to deepthroat jayce's dick with ease. sometimes vik makes jayce fatter while laying in that position, his fupa slowly covering more of his face, his belly getting heavier and putting extra weight on top of him.
jayce being dominant while being a huge immobile blob, making viktor fuck himself on his fat fingers because he's unable to reach him otherwise. the digits are so ingulfed in fat that they stretch viktor out nicely enough for him to get off. at times like these he's at a smaller size, otherwise those fat fingers will have a very difficult time at reaching him. sometimes jayce tries to give him a hand job, but with his limited mobility in his hand it's difficult for him to wrap around viktor's dick, it still gets him off just humping the fat. or jayce being at a point where he's still barely able to move his fat covered arms and holding a fatter vik still while he's giving him a blowjob, vik having developed his own sizable fupa which slowly covers his dick, but nowhere the size of jayce's. meanwhile the fat on jayce's arms squishes his cheeks and the fat around his head together, wrapping around viktor so he's basically trapped while he's holding onto the fat rolls of jayce's neck. this time it's jayce's turn to tease viktor by not allowing him to move, he's controlling the pace at which he'll get off, not allowing him to move his hips at all. sometimes he'd eat vik out as well with his fat hands are gripping viks wider hips, holding him steady ✨️
also fupa and belly fucking 🫣. y'all don't understand how feral those thoughts make me. viktor enjoys getting penetrated in both while jayce enjoys getting his fatpad fucked the most. jayce's fupa is almost always big enough to be fucked, since it's already very sensitive it's one of his favourite ways for viktor to have him. no matter how fat he is, no matter what position he'd be in, the fastest way to get him off is by paying attention to the fatpad between his legs and the burried dick within. for vik it's a similar story, though his fatpad is way smaller than jayce's. but since his belly is also very large jayce is easily able to penetrate is deep belly button too. their favourite combination is usually with a stuffed belly and viktor being a tiny massive blob. with the amount of fat he can pile on, jayce is still able to fuck his belly. with their size difference it hits all the right spots and just the way his overfilled belly gurgles angrily with every trust keeps them both going.
oops, got very long but i love talking about them >:3
i wanna draw a little fat sex page ngl, the ideas are so hot
Really love relooking over you fat jayvik week art. Especially the stuck in doorway Viktor.
Can imagine Viktor growing even more gigantic and wider, needing doorways widened and taller as he grows. Jayce cuddling close under Viktor’s swollen tire thick arm and side moob to help the huge inventor waddle through the lab. Each heavy steps shaking the building and leaving cracks in the marble floor under his fat feet.
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i need viktor wider than he's tall tbh. huge legs, wide hips and ass, nice cankles covering his swollen feet, a big belly and some decently sized moobs, his upper arms slowly covering his elbows, forearms bulging where they meet his wrists and touch his fat hands and neck completely covered in a fat layer, giving him a nice double chin :3
but at the stages where he's still mobile he'll gladly take any help from jayce he can get
jayce making custom braces and adjustig them as needed as he continues to grow, the measuring secretly being one of his favouritr parts. feeling the measure tape squeeze around his fat and jayce touching and digging around in his fat folds uwu
jayce's favourite place to be is somewhere smothered in viktor's fat, doesn't matter where
between his moobs, in his fatpad, between his thighs? everywhere >:3
ofc viktor will rub off on jayce, him gaining a good amount of weight as well. he's still tiny compared to how gigantic viktor will end up. he'd still have a decent strength despite wandering into superchub territory
at some point viktor will be too big for the lab but they'll find a way to bring their research to viktor to continue. given that he can still move his fat fingers hehe
consider, with your merman thoughts, that the spell makes jayce bigger too (aquatic creature body can probably support more weight with the waters help than a land one) so not only is he beached until vik shows up but also more massive than before
oh hell yeah
considering how massive some of them are they could literally weigh tons, especially with the fat that's also padding their tails oughhh
so depending on what kind of creature the two are based on (see last related post for my thoughts on that), i could see the newly transformed jayce being a good amount larger than when he was human. viktor seeing his huge form beached in the sand, the added weight making it more difficult to move. once he's in the water, his new size is even more apparent; his chubby hands engulf viktor's own, tail being fat but strong and his new form completely overshadowing viktor in all aspects of size.
generally, i like the idea of bigger size differences between the two. either or, i'm not picky. i love viktor being massive and fat compared to a smaller jayce too :3
like jayce's love for him enabled him to gain the weight he always wanted to✨️
‼️and some eggpreg stuff below‼️
viktor being filled with jayce's eggs, his fat belly still getting bigger with the sheer quantity of them. they don't need to be fertilized, he just loves the feeling of being full of jayce's clutches so they do it whenever they can
in my head, the eggs, once fertilized, would hatch inside the carrying parent and then be birthed after another time period. the amount and size of eggs depends on how i'm feeling but either are good. like hundreds of tiny eggs or a smaller clutch with massive ones
or eggpreg but viktor is the one who creates the eggs and jayce fertilizes them with a lot of cum (yippie for cumflation). his smaller belly already bulging out with his clutch, then jayce coming along and filling him up to the brim to ensure all of the eggs are fertilized >:3
maybe his eggs look like the hextech crystals so they have a soft glow that shows through his skin so jayce knows exactly when it's time to breed his partner✨️
i love thinking about both viktor and jayce so fat it hinders them at having sex so they have to get creative :3c
jayce's fatpad being so big it swallows his dick completely (and further beyond, obviously); and viktor's ass, hips and thighs being so packed with fat it makes it difficult to even reach anything as well <3
when both were still smaller; and jayce's cock not completely lost in a sea of fat; they get a kick out of the way jayce's fatpad has to be squished aside in an attempt to even get close to fucking his partner. or viktor wanting to try and fuck jayce's fatpad; both discovering that it feels fucking amazing so they try it more often as jayce's mobility dwindles
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or viktor face first in jayce's massive fupa trying to suck him off, getting absolutely smothered in it but he's exactly where he wants to be🖤
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viktor would get a kick out of teasing jayce that he can't fuck him anymore (can be applied to both bc i like them switching). viktor having to use a strap on jayce to get the illusing of getting fucked by his immobile partner, while also loving the feeling of using jayce's navel for his own pleasure >:3
buut if we imagine jayce's fupa being huge and looking more like this, viktor can still have his fun fucking jayce's fupa no matter how big jayce gets, his fupa will always be massive ;3
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and maybe jayce is at a stage where even moving his arms is impossible, so viktor has to take over most actions, but they both indulge in it A LOT
jayce might not even be able to move his fingers much, but it doesn't stop viktor from trying to fuck himself on one of the thick digits. back then three of jayce's fingers filled him out nicely; now, at this size, even one finger is larger around in circumference✨️
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or switched around with viktor being the immobile one first; jayce doesn't even attempt at trying to reach viktor's hole, his backside is far too massive that other ways would prove more successful :3
viktor would be immobile way faster than jayce, obviously due to the extend of his disability but also with the way his lower half gains much more quickly than his upper half. the amount of fat gathered on every part of his legs makes walking take way too much effort, not even to mention how difficult it is to even bend them with all the fat in the way. but oh, once he took his last steps and accepted immobility, his gaining accelerated; especially with the help of jayce
i'd also imagine viktor's navel being very sensitive so even just shoving a vibrator in that deep cavern can get him to his peak in no time, and ohh. jayce would absolutely use this knowledge to his advantage, teasing and maybe edging his poor, immobile partner. maybe jayce also decides to fuck viktor's pretty mouth.
his face is covered in fat, puffy cheeks squishing his mouth into a pout; perfectly for him to fuck his partner's pretty face while holding onto the fat surrounding it🖤
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or with more of a size difference: still rather thin but slightly chubby vik getting pounded by jayce who's at least four times his own weight. jayce's huge belly is laying ontop of him, his fat hands holding onto any part of viktor he is able to reach, as he's trying his best not to get winded too fast. he's always careful not to hurt vik ofc, always looking out so he is laying comfortably and adjusting where needed. same thing with viktor looking out for his massive partner :3c
sometimes they try with viktor on his stomach, maybe laying over the edge of the bed with his legs cushioned so he's comfortable; this way, jayce probably has more space to actually reach his partner
fuck it, rambles about jayvik and nipple penetration + cumflation and so many more things added to it bc i need to project my favourite kinks onto my favourite guys
just fyi
jayce will always be pictured as chubby at least, also hairy and with his s2 hairstyle and beard! his hide is mostly a darkish brown with a black stripe down his back to his tail which fades out to the brown on the sides
vik is a bit different with each scenario but he'll also have some amount of chub and a good amount of body hair on him. his hide is mostly lighter than his actual hair, and similar to jayce he also has a darker stripe, same color as his hair, on his spine that runs along it towards his tail (just so you get a rough idea)
udders are always the same color as their nipples so for jayce it's a darker brown while viktor's would have a lighter, pinkish brown color
some of this is inspired by me and @starsherald yapping :3
let's get to it
hucow viktor/hubull jayce taurs
jayce taking care of his happy cow. he's able to cum massive amounts at once so one load is already a lot for any of the holes he chooses. viktor stuffed full of cum in his pussy, udder and tits and both love it so much and can't get enough of it 🖤
the first time he'd mate with viktor he had warned him about his excessive loads but viktor did not heed his warnings, brushed it off and told him not to get his ego to high. so jayce, still warning him finally came inside of him and well, he did not lie. it was a lot, especially since viktor was not used to this extreme amount of cum all at once but he'd lie if he'd say he doesn't like it. the feeling of his belly expanding below him for the first time is something he'll never forget
viktor's belly is massively inflated, even after only one round, there's so much cum inside of him that he already looks pregnant. he's probably already been bred, he just doesn't know it yet
after taking load after load his gait is slow, the size of his belly and udder hindering more of his mobility but the adjustable braces jayce made help him tremendously
and the gurgling ugh. everything is so sloshy and loud, with every slight movement you can hear it churning if you were standing next to him.
but it's not the only place he's able to be filled. his nipples and teats, to his surprise are penetrable. they accidentally found out that fact while jayce was sucking on one of his, then, smaller tits, tonguing the peaks while his tongue accidentally slipped inside. both were shocked at this discovery and so curious to how big they could stretch and what could fit inside
so it has become a new goal: fit bigger things inside his nipples until jayce is able to fuck his tits and udder
they start slow, jayce tonguing more often at his nipples, trying to fuck his tongue inside purposefully. after this was achieved he'd start with his fingers. first only one, then two, then more. to help them acclimate they put in small plugs to keep them open and relaxed for the next size. and with that they slowly sized the plugs up every now and then until they were able to stretch to the size of jayce's cock
once they'd finally reached the size needed, jayce came inside his pussy like usual, but promising something different today. viktor helping him guide his cock inside one of his nipples and jayce starting to thrust inside. his tits themselves weren't that big yet, so the full length of jayce's dick did not yet fit but the new feeling of being able to fuck his partners tits made him come in mere minutes, flooding his tit and expanding it to a larger size, doing the same to the other for balance uff. now they have plenty of space for jayce to sink his cock into
and the same thing is done for viktor's udder 🖤 it ends up so huge, it juts out behind him ugghhhh
jayce making nipple plugs in his colors for both viktors nipples and the teats of his udder. they're around the size of his cock, with flared bases so they don't get pushed out that easily, keeping all of the cum inside >:3
depending on if he's lactating, his udder and tits would slowly inflate over the course of a few hours with backed up milk and the cum that jayce emptied inside. the pressure is growing but it feels so good at the same time. the plugs keep everything inside and add a certain pressure that viktor at some point almost cannot live without
sometimes after their sessions jayce takes him out, everything so stuffed full and sloshy he can't even hide the fact he has been filled in every way possible. belly? full. womb? full. tits and udder? full.
and the fact that he can take more and more of jayce's cum the more they do it ufff. at some point there are so many gallons of cum inside his womb that it's he has basically been turned into a sloshy cum ballon ✨️
and every load viktor swallows will be added in fat later. he's steadily gaining with the mix of huge loads emptied in his throat and the amount he eats :3
and since i'm an inflation lover why not throw air and water inflation into the mix as well 👀
when jayce is gone viktor inflates himself (the parts he can reach) with water, it's not the same as jayce's cum but it's heavy and sloshy at least. putting a hose into his mouth and tits and just letting water pour in until he's stuffed to the brim
sometimes he likes to be inflated with air, every hole hooked up to a pump and filled to the point of being very taut and rounded. his tits and udder defying gravity with how tight and full they look, bellies rounded out but so light compared to jayce's cum or water ughhh. the only thing that's missing for him is the gurgling, his favourite part about cum or water
once viktor is finally knocked up he cannot wait to swell with their calves. milk production going into overdrive but with the plugs in place it all backs up and makes his tits and udder swell. once a day, he gets milked by jayce. sometimes by mouth, sometimes by machine but both would lie they don't enjoy seeing jayce get fatter off of viktor's calorie dense and fatty milk 🖤
‼️this part has been bottom trans vik, below is bottom trans jayce‼️
hucow jayce/hubull viktor taurs
mmm since i love multiboob just as much as udders, i'd like to give jayce a second pair of lovely tits below the first one. he's already chubby before mating with vik. chest still fairly small, belly having a nice layer of fat on it and udder basically non existent yet
their first and primary goal was getting jayce knocked up so their matings happend multiple times a day. unlike in the upper scenario viktor does not have that much volume he can cum at once but still a larger amount than normal
they'd know when jayce is finally knocked up due to his milk instantly starting production, he's a good dairy cow after all and had plenty of years of stimulation preparing him for it
viktor's instantly on him, sucking on his tits to lap up all of the produced milk. drinking so much he's getting milk drunk and developing his own belly from it
in no time jayce is showing, belly jutting out, udder and tits finally having grown, and to a huge size at that. his tits have grown bigger than his human belly, which has also gained quite amount of weight. his udder is rivaling the size of said upper belly. his face has filled out as well as his arms, growing fat all over and viktor revels in it
he loves squishing all four of his tits together, milk squirting out everywhere and he loves massaging his huge udder, playing with the huge milk bag like it's a stress ball, tugging on the elongated teats to tease him a bit, eating him out in the meantime :3
viktor himself had also gained quite the amount with all the times he fed on jayce's milk. growing his own huge belly that he can squish against jayce's own 🖤
but it's no surprise for both of their weight gain with how much jayce is eating, he devours so much food it could feed multiple familys. given, he's also eating for multiple people but shhhh
the section is a bit shorter, mainly bc i mostly yap about bottom v (see my tags for my reason lol)
but i'm not that picky when it comes to either of them, just make one of them trans and fat and idc. again bc i'm only c4t so my pref in ships is the same, don't care who's who tho
i just want to see fat and hairy men pregnant, that's all 😩
but i might write more bottom trans jayce in the future so keep your eyes peeled
ignore any mistakes, i've been writing this since 3am lmao
Viktor resisting the temptation to bite Jayce’s double chin after it has taken over his neck.
He breaks one day after laying on Jayce. Viktor just eyeing him like a cat as the other man snores, his face looking fat… he’s just fixated on that plump double chin and suddenly *CHOMP*
Jayce wakes up and nearly throws Viktor off from the surprise.
The arcane transport Viktor and Jayce to an afterlife where everything is edible like candyland. How long until Jayce grows and becomes the newest landmark 😩😩
Loving the term “newest landmark” 😳😩
Definitely would take several years, but on that’s still quite quick when you consider he’s basically a mountain of lard. Constantly growing and accumulating mass as he constantly consumes with the help of Viktor. Slowly covering more and more bits of land… becoming unrecognizable. Gets to the point where it’s quite the walk on his soft body to reach where his face is buried… good thing the feeding tube/scaffolding makes it easy to find 😜
Viktor developing mobility aids so that blob sized Jayce can still get around outside, even if Jayce is a bit embarrassed by all the stares.
I can totally see Viktor working on something like a reinforced scooter or something to help Jayce get around! I think it would take a bit of a long conversation to get Jayce to actually use the damn thing xD.
There would probably also need to be some sort of small crane to lift that man onto the scooter to begin with, so they probably wouldn't use it too often simply from all the effort!
Also in my head, Jayce has a bit of a humiliation/degradation kink, so the embarrassment would actually be an enticing factor once he starts using it eheh.
Jayce subconsciously using countertops to hold his belly after getting reeaaal big, and Viktor just silently grasping his thighs in horny agony every time he sees it happen
BARK BARK WOOF BARK BARK
HELL YEAH
Big boy subconsciously hefting his large belly onto the counter and plopping it down with a big *thud* as he goes through the kitchen cabinets, a jiggle traveling through the rest of his fat up to his chins. Probably gives his legs a bit of a rest from carrying around all that heft.
Viktor would be stronger than me if he were able to hold himself back from pouncing on Jayce after seeing that. I certainly wouldn't last very long.
