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Monica faked her death to be with Dame Enid and to divorce quietly with no drama from Tony
Rivals season 2 is failing Cameron Cook so far.
We donโt get her POV.
We donโt see her vulnerability.
We donโt get a quiet moment with her.
We know only this about her life prior to 1986:
Her mother is an activist;
Her father a teacher;
Her parents divorced when she was 14;
Her mother didnโt really want to be a mother;
Her motherโs next partner โwas an assholeโ;
Sheโs from New York;
She left home when she was young;
And sheโd been on her own for a while, until Tony. And Corinium and Venturer and Rutshire.
Now when I write it out it seems like itโs a lot to know about character until you remember that we learned this 11 episodes ago in a show thatโs aired 13 episodes.
Weโre told she feels lonely in her relationship with Rupert, we donโt see it. We donโt see how she grapples with the fact that she almost killed someone she was in a relationship with. Someone who was manipulative, and dare I say abusive, someone who put his hands on her, tried to coerce her into sex then bribed her when the coercion didnโt work and you know what? Letโs say we take the BaddingCook out of it, just the fact that she almost KILLED a personโฆWe donโt see her take any of that in.
And even if you want to say โoh the show is not that seriousโ that I โshouldnโt be expecting them to deep dive abusive relationships and power imbalancesโ or Iโmโmaking everything about raceโ,
1. THE SHOW made her Black and its acknowledged in the material: Tony and Ginger made it a Thing in 1x01 when Declan arrived at Corinium by saying โwho says no Blacks, no Irish?โ; when Ginger chortled after Tony told Cameron sheโd โbe on the next boat backโ; when she was called โexoticโ by Val and Fredโs kids. All this means they should, ideally, be willing to understand how things will read differently now that there is Blackness where there was none before and that they be mindful of unconscious biases.
and 2. her writing is lacklustre this season with other characters too. Iโm not going to lie, Cam and Declan being such good friends in this episode honestly took me by surprise because we donโt get more than one quick scene every other episode with trading barbs. Or Cam with Rupert, or Cam with Patrick, or any other woman.
Cameron is just there to have sex and solidify that the white right people remember in their hearts that they love their white right partners and not her. Weโre five episodes into a 12 episode season and theyโre only just now starting to develop her supposed endgame, Patrick, who has been markedly less into her in season two than he was last season until this episode.
Cameron is running the risk of falling into the disposable black girlfriend trope and even if she breaks up with Rupert, itโs the same trope just superficially feminist.
Right now? Sheโs the Jezebel trope, her entire character revolving around her romantic/sexual tension and relationships with the 3 main men (Tony, Declan and Rupert.)
Sheโs a girlboss, sheโs a โball buster,โ sheโs quick as a whip, can hang with the boys and donโt forget SEX!SEX!SEX! but all that without the more human and low sides to her just make it seem to me like sheโs falling into a common way Black female characters are written/viewed: good enough for sex but never for love.
As of 205, Cameron Cook is not given the same amount of well roundedness that her white counterparts are given. I havenโt completely written off this season in regards to her, I really hope the 7 episodes remaining do better and change my mind because I know Nafessa would be so good with a meatier script, and it would be refreshing to have a black female character that isnโt strong all the time. A messy Black woman. A Black woman that isnโt there to be the devil to another womanโs angel. That isnโt stagnant.
Oh, hereโs a meme I made. Go follow me on twitter for Rivals season two tweet-alongs, Iโm hilarious
Nafessa Williams in โ RIVALS 1.03 (2024)
Season 1 Declan would've hated Season 2 Declan
I didn't want to come here and talk about Rivals again. I swear I didn't. But I just ate three slices of pizza, drank a glass of wine, and I'm very upset because I've been holding back from talking about this for weeks.
So, since I don't have dominic treadwell-collins' personal phone number to cry into his ear, I'm going to leave my rant here instead. And this is about Declan.
I don't want to talk about the other things in the writing that bothered me or the other characters anymore, because I can barely see my keyboard through the alcohol and the tears.
maybe if the season hadn't been split into two parts,
maybe if I already had access to the next six episodes,
I wouldn't feel like Declan's writing has become so lazy.
But since they split it into two parts, there's no other way to put it: I can only judge what I've actually been given. (Yes, Disney, I will curse you until the end of my days for this criminal release schedule.)
Declan O'Hara was never a saint.
In the first season, he was a neglectful husband, an absent father on many occasions, drank too much when under pressure, and frequently put his work above his own family. Therefore, the problem is not that season two is showing his flaws. Those flaws have always existed.
What bothers me is that Declan's flaws now seem different from the ones that were previously established, and the series does not develop that change.
In season one, surprisingly, it wasn't Aidan's handsome face that made me root for him (although, of course, I fully acknowledge the effect). He was an outsider in Rutshire. He frequently placed himself in a position of moral superiority, with his hero complex, wanting to drag the "bad guys" before the court of public opinion. He was not a present husband or father, but he was still a "good person" trying to do the right thing.
when Paul Stratton is homophobic, Declan calls him out and points out his hypocrisy.
when Deirdre puts a misogynistic note on Cameron's office door, he is the one who reminds Cameron that she is excellent.
when Tony refuses to let him conduct the interview with Thatcher, he tries to resign because he would never compromise his professional integrity.
when he discovers what happened to Daysee, unlike Tony, he chooses to sacrifice the institution rather than the victim. He is disgusted by what goes on there.
and when Rupert shows up with the proposal he stole from Cameron after seducing her, Declan throws it into the fire because he considers it dirty and disgusting.
It's easy to root for this guy, isn't it?
He's nowhere near perfect, but he has clearly defined moral principles and follows them in a way that makes sense within the character's established portrayal.
He repeatedly chose the harder path when he believed it was the right thing to do, even when that meant ending the day drunk, drowning in debt, and unemployed.
So far, that isn't happening in season two. The only good thing he does in season two is take his clothes off and I'm not complaining, far from it. my smartwatch kept going off every single time he appeared naked. watching that was better for my heart than going to the gym, and that is the fault of inconsistent and superficial writing.
And it shows up even in the smaller things.
In season one, Declan's cruelty was generally directed only at people he considered corrupt, hypocritical, or morally reprehensible. He frequently put himself on a pedestal because of it.
That's why it surprised me to see him being deliberately cruel to Maud before an important performance. Yes, he apologizes in the latest episode. Yes, their marriage has been failing for a very long time. But even so, it was one of those moments where I felt like I was looking at a version of him that I didn't immediately recognize. And I refuse to talk about that failed marriage. Because both of them are responsible for that disastrous marriage, and if you're being honest, you know it. I'm tired of the competition over who's worse.
In season one, he has no problem sacrificing the institution for the sake of an individual (Daysee), because that means doing the right thing.
In season two, he throws Rupert out of Venturer without the series spending more than two minutes on his decision. All the show gives us is a frustrated expression and somehow expects that to be enough for him to discard a friend for the sake of an institution in a way that feels coherent.
You see, Rupert is not just a friend.
Rupert is not just a colleague. Rupert started Venturer, financed the project, and bought half of Declan's property to help him with his debts. When no one else was offering a solution, Rupert bet on him. (And Declan is aware of that โ at least that "Thank you, Rupert" at the end of season one certainly leads me to believe so.)
Rupert also represents one of the biggest lessons Declan learned in season one. At the beginning, Declan judged Rupert by his reputation. Later, he learns that Rupert is more complex than his public image suggests. That's why, when season two seems to push Declan back toward making judgments based on scandal and public perception, it feels like a step backward.
"but don't you see the look on Declan's face when Rupert wins the election? It's obvious Declan doesn't like Rupert!"
Disagreeing with Rupert does not mean Declan doesn't like Rupert. They have always disagreed. Rupert comes from a privileged conservative background; Declan is an Irish socialist. And apparently the series has forgotten what it means to be Irish under a Tory government, because Declan has every reason to dislike a Tory victory regardless of who wins.
But the fact remains that Declan knew Rupert's reputation. He knew about the scandals. He knew his history. Even so, he became his friend, chose to trust him, founded Venturer alongside him, and accepted his help when Rupert bought part of his property.
Season one Declan establishes a very specific moral pattern:
He does not care about personal consequences when he believes he is right.
He sacrifices money, status, and security for his principles.
He refuses to participate in something he considers unethical.
He judges actions based on what is morally right, not on what is convenient for a public image.
He did not abandon people to protect institutions. On the contrary, he abandoned institutions to protect what he believed in. That's why it's difficult not to feel a contradiction when he suddenly seems willing to push Rupert out of the very company Rupert helped build.
Even so, in theory, it could make sense for Declan to decide that Rupert should leave Venturer. With responsibility comes pragmatism, and it makes sense that he would be more concerned about Venturer's survival than the purity of his principles. Venturer is no longer just a job. It is the livelihood and investment of a lot of people who believed in him. It is his professional dream, something he is building from the ground up. That could have been a genuinely interesting character arc.
For this to work dramatically, the series would need to show Declan struggling with this decision. There would need to be scenes where he:
feels guilty;
acknowledges the debt he owes Rupert;
questions whether he is putting the company's image above loyalty;
debates whether he is repeating Corinium's mistakes;
has an honest conversation with Rupert about what is at stake.
The problem is that the series doesn't even try to convince me of this direction. As a result, the decision doesn't feel like the next logical step in his character arc, but rather an abrupt change in behaviour.
I'm not saying Declan couldn't make this decision. I'm saying the series didn't do the homework necessary to convince me that this decision makes sense for who he is.
When you omit the reasoning of such a central character, the audience fills in the gaps with the worst possible interpretation.
In Declan's case, the gap was filled with: "he's an ungrateful hypocrite." And the situation with Cameron in Ireland only escalates the problem.
I refuse to talk about his relationship with Cameron here, alright? The actors have more chemistry than the periodic table, and their dance scene is the hottest scene in the entire series. The problem is that the show seems to have decided that chemistry can replace development. It can't. Declan just comes across as a terrible friend and father, since he's practically devouring his friend's girlfriend with his eyes (the same friend he pushed out of the company, who is going through the lowest point of his personal and professional life) while his own son is in love with her.
Very little character development. Just a checklist you need to tick off before rushing on to the next item.
"cause scandal and drama with this storyline?" check.
"move pieces into place for the next plot event?" check.
The problem is not what he does; it's how the series shows it (or doesn't).
His actions could have made sense if the series had devoted time to exploring and developing them. The rushed pacing murders character and logic, and makes it very difficult for me to root for him.
And I wish I could say that at least he's still excellent at his job and obsessively devoted to it. But then Tony gets his hands on those tapes with all the difficulty of stealing candy from a child. LOL.
Declan knows exactly who Tony is. We know who Tony is. Declan himself constantly reminds us who Tony is. So why did he make it so easy for him?
who is this guy?
am I ever going to see season one Declan again?
or maybe in part two they'll finally give him enough time to develop, so he doesn't come across as contradictory and superficial?
can I still hope that part two will redeem him?
or is this the end of the road for us after this disastrous sequence of scenes?
(I got a little hopeful in episode 6 when I found out he didn't sleep with Cameron, because that gives us time to develop them properly without trampling over the character traits that define him.)
and I don't want you to reach the end of this ridiculously long post thinking that I stopped rooting for Declan because he isn't perfect.
for God's sake, I spent two weeks (episodes 4 and 5) rooting for the bloody Tony Baddingham! Look, I have many issues, but I have no problem rooting for someone who is morally corrupt.
I'm not asking for a perfect Declan. I'm asking for a Declan who makes sense. If the series doesn't show me his development and internal reasoning, then when he makes questionable decisions, that's not a "complex character." That's lazy writing.
Declan's development has been very poor, or practically nonexistent, and that hurts more than anything he has actually done on screen. So here's the question: is it really worth assassinating character development just to serve plotlines and reach the events you want to get to?
I also don't want you to reach the end of this post thinking that I hated the series, because that's not true! It's still my favourite show. It's a huge and incredible season.
the cinematography is gorgeous.
the costumes are gorgeous.
the soundtrack is gorgeous.
i would like to personally shake hands with everyone responsible for those departments.
possibly kiss the camera operator. respectfully.
Having issues with a character arc does not mean i hated the show. It does not mean i think i could write it better. I absolutely could not. I possess approximately 10% of the talent required to create something this ambitious.
It simply means there are parts of Declan's development that aren't working for me right now. The overall balance is still overwhelmingly positive. They could keep making seasons for the next ten years and i'd still be sat here watching this cast every single time.
Also, if this post sounds combative, please know that there is currently more sugar and wine than common sense in my bloodstream. And if anyone from disney or happy prince somehow reads this and decides to sue me, i would respectfully like to remind the court that i was emotionally compromised. there is so much alcohol and glucose in my blood that the probability of them seeing this or caring about it is zero.
anyway if you've reached the end of this post, congratulations! you've shown more commitment to declan's character arc than the show currently has.
having said all that, a big kiss to everyone at happy prince, disney and hulu.
the season is beautiful, I love it.
see you all in october.
xx
Lol, I know I'd offered general agreement with you in a reply, but had to add this as a reblog because it continues to bug me (at 5am in the morning) ๐ซ
Declan's conversation with Maud where he talks about almost cheating on her with Cameron, what was that even about?? Was he trying to guilt her for her cheating? Was he tacitly admitting to wearing resentment resulting in a flawed desire within himself to retaliate against her cheating and attempt a tit-for-tat with Cameron? Idk, it sat uncomfortably with me for some reason, among the other points you've mentioned, given his awed/resigned (?) talk with Cameron about Maud being a goddess (?) among 'mere mortals' like him, as a rather spurious explanation to rationalise her adultery. Maybe it's all intended to be complex and illustrating that Declan's long rationalised about Maud to himself and others but it's showing signs of wear now, idk, idk.
I'm wondering if, and how, his remarks there might fit into your analysis?
I actually had to rewatch those scenes yesterday to try and better understand your point of view, because I didn't come away from them feeling the same way you did.
I also don't feel particularly secure analysing the Maud/Declan relationship, because it's such a deep and complex area that requires a very careful reading. But I can tell you how those scenes made me feel, okay?
First, the conversation with Cameron, where he says that "beautiful people are above morality and that Maud is one of them", is practically lifted straight from the book. In fact, I think it's the only scene this season whose dialogue remains extremely faithful to the source material.
And that makes sense within the conception of these characters, because I've always had the impression that Jilly wanted Declan and Maud to reflect Yeats' relationship with Maud Gonne. So this idea that he will always be hopelessly in love with her, that he idealises her as a muse, and that he finds ways to justify her adultery because she's beautiful while he's a workaholic, is something that is very faithful to the book and that I consider perfectly valid within the characters' construction.
Declan has looked at Maud with adoration since the first season the camel scene immediately comes to mind ย so this perspective doesn't feel new to me at all. And I think the show intends to maintain that dynamic.
I have no idea how the writers' room decides what to keep faithful to the book and what to change, but Declan and Maud's relationship feels like one of the things they're intent on preserving. Maybe even at Jilly's request. They're a complex, fascinating couple and absolutely central to the story, and I have a hard time imagining Jilly signing off on any drastic changes to their ultimate fate or the essence of their relationship. But we'll see what the future holds!
Now, regarding the scene where he tells Maud about the almost-affair with Cameron, I can look at it from both a technical perspective and an emotional one.
The technical perspective is that this conversation primarily exists as a narrative device to inform the audience that he didn't sleep with Cameron. In this interview: https://collider.com/rivals-season-2-midseason-finale-dominic-treadwell-collins-interview/
Dominic Treadwell-Collins says:
"So we went back and forth about it a lot, and what we decided on was a lot of our men โ almost all of our men โ are love rats. With Declan, we wanted to show that actually, not all men are love rats."
"And because we play the Maud and Tony affair up front instead of a reveal, for the audience to see that, and then to have Declan shagging Cameron at the same time, there are no stakes, you'd go, 'Oh, these people are all shagging each other, there's no morality there.โโ
This conversation serves to present Declan as different from the other men in Rutshire. It's the way the writers chose to establish a moral line that he does not cross.
What's curious is that, for some reason, they seem to have abandoned the character's development in virtually every other area. But on this specific point, they clearly wanted to preserve the idea that there is a difference between him and everyone else.
I feel that if he had actually slept with Cameron, the morality that underpins the character would have been destroyed completely. Not because I think characters can't make mistakes or cheat on their partners, but because the season has already removed many of the elements that traditionally supported Declan's character. With the absence of scenes showing his internal process while making questionable decisions, this would have been one more piece removed from the structure.
Maybe that's precisely why the writers pulled back at that point. If he had crossed that line as well, I'm not sure what would have been left of the version of the character that the show spent the entire first season building.
Narratively, it also works as a way of making Maud look worse. Dominic himself uses the language of "heroes and villains" at the end of the interview, and that makes it relatively obvious who he believes the audience should be rooting for by the end of the episode. ๐
Within the logic of that construction, you have a woman who effectively cheated on her husband for years and a man who had the opportunity to do the same thing but stepped back before crossing the line. Dramatically, that creates a very clear contrast. The conversation also exists to reinforce the moral distinction between Declan and Maud at that point in the story.
What I find crazy cough cough lazy is that, at the same time the episode seems to want to position Declan as the "hero" of that particular situation, the season as a whole hasn't done a great job of developing his perspective. I get the feeling that the writers want me to root for him, but they're not giving me enough material to understand what's actually going on inside his head.
Now, from an emotional perspective, I can also find meaning in the scene. When I watched it for the first time, I didn't feel that he was telling Maud about the almost-affair with Cameron in order to make her feel guilty, nor that it came from some resentment he had been carrying towards her. What I felt was that they were trying to reconnect.
They're talking about the script for her programme and about his Yeats script. After they finish watching the documentary, he regrets that she wasn't in Ireland with him and apologises for his behaviour (he really was cruel to her before the presentation, and he'd also been neglectful for a very long time).
I know it sounds contradictory when he comes back from Ireland saying that he was thinking about her the whole time while he was on the verge of getting into bed with Cameron. But honestly, if you look at the conversations he has with Cameron in Ireland, almost all of them revolve around Maud. (And that's one of the reasons I consider Maud and Tony's scenes far superior to Cameron and Declan's!!! Maud and Tony spend their time talking about themselves: acting, photography, their youth, who they were and who they've become. There's real development there. Meanwhile, Cameron and Declan, despite the chemistry, spend a good portion of Ireland talking about Maud/Rupert/Patrick. I never felt that their relationship received enough development to support the dramatic weight the show wanted it to have.)
And then Declan comes back from Ireland, gives Maud that huge kiss at the games, and tells her he's going to do better, that he knows he's made her unhappy. Because of that, my reading is that maybe, for the first time, the possibility of a definitive ending became real to him.
That's why I think he tells Maud about Cameron. Not because he wants to punish her. But because he wants to start again with nothing hidden between them.
A way of saying to Maud: "I still want this marriage. I still love you. I came close to crossing that line, and I didn't cross it because, despite everything that has happened between us, I didn't want to risk losing you forever."
And this is one of the very few moments this season where I'm able to reconnect with Declan and see the Declan from season one again. Also, I absolutely love Aidan and Victoria's work in this scene! (This cast carries the entire show on its back. What a perfect cast, for God's sake. You can hear the emotion in his voice when he talks about Cameron and when he repeats that he loves Maud. And you can also see the guilt and emotion on Victoria's face!!!)
To me, he seems genuinely intent on being honest.
In the first season, Declan says that there are no secrets between them he knew about her affairs. Because, despite all the chaos of that marriage, the one thing that seemed to remain standing was honesty.
So I think that's the real reason he tells her about Cameron. Because honesty had always been one of the pillars of their relationship, even when everything else was falling apart.
And if he genuinely wanted to move forward with Maud, he needed to put everything on the table first.
Fortunately, the technical reading and the emotional reading don't conflict with each other for me. I think the scene was written to fulfil a specific narrative function, but that doesn't prevent it from also revealing something sincere about Declan's emotional state in that moment.
Anyway, this has now become another absurdly long Rivals essay, which means I have once again spent more time thinking about Declan O'Hara than the writers probably did. ๐ญ
Rivals stans particularly Taggie stans constantly infantilizing Taggie and still bitching about that one time Cameron yelled at her in season 1 ๐๐. And then now acting like Cameron doesnโt have a right to feel some type of way toward Taggie especially giving what happening with her and Rupert ๐ฅด. Also it get me how they claim to hate Cameron cause she slept with married men but they turn around and idolizes someone like Rupert ๐คฆ๐ฝโโ๏ธ ๐คฆ๐ฝโโ๏ธ ๐คฆ๐ฝโโ๏ธ.
i know i can't stop talking about it, but they way half of this fandom absolutely revels in the way rupert ignores and puts down cameron, is just so draining and, honestly, disgusting.
everywhere i look people are cheering her being used and discarded by him and the rest of the men on this show. all of the dog whistles used to describe her and why she deserves this treatment, despite show!cameron not even really being the book!cameron character. show!cameron is vulnerable and is clearly looking for those genuine connections and attachments. she's strong and driven and she's capable of cutting down if necessary. but, she's not really cold or cruel like her counterpart is.
and the racism she receives from these people, so they can cheer on his constant emotional cheating, is not even vaguely subtle.
it's not awesome that she's just been deceived this whole relationship. that she is asked, without any prompting, to move into a man's home, while he actively spends his time thinking about someone else. that he sleeps next to her, and sleeps with her, and plays this part to her face, while he has a drawer next to their bed full of mementos from another women. there were other ways to help her that didn't include pretending to want to be with her.
it's not romantic towards taggie that he puts cameron down (who does nothing to deserve it) to uplift taggie's "purity" and her "motherly nature." that he scoffs at cameron's lack of ability to present as a mother figure, despite her actively trying with his children, while he just stands there and watches them reem her. god forbid she makes them breakfast, what a monster. it's not romantic watching him immediately start flirting with with taggie, while cameron is left to just sit and watch it happen, because he fully does not care enough about her to at least not do so in front of her face.
it's not like she's some villain getting her well deserved comeuppance. if rupert's final path toward taggie, in part 2, doesn't include legitimate remorse for his actions towards cameron, that man can jump off a cliff, as far as i'm concerned. and all the racists laughing at her mistreatment can go, too.
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What it's your big hot take about Tvdu? Mine is that Joseph Morgan is not even on the top 3 best actors of the universe. Let alone the best. It also kills me when people say he could still pull off playing Klaus. Absolutely not. I think the character made him attractive but in reality he's very mid. ๐คทโโ๏ธ
oh 1000% Yusuf Gatewood out acts all the Mikaelsons
My hottest TVDU take is that I truly dont believe theres a single TVDU character that couldnt have been played by another actor, people are just blinded by nostalgia and dick riding to admit that they were all replaceable and theyre not the best of the best
Another take is that only s1 and 2 of TVD were genuinely peak and even then they were a mess, the show went downhill from there, people just glaze the Mikaelsons too much, yes they made the show more interesting BUT the writers didnt have the capabilities to do them justice
My most shameful take is that the ships written by men were my favourite ones, Forwood, Haylijah and Klamille. The women writers would delve into the fanbase and what teenage girls wanted to see which is how we ended up with kl*roline and a lot of corny scenes with other ships too
Kolvina was lazy and I'll never understand how theyre so loved when they were quite literally just based off other ships (including Kennett who's scenes directly inspired some kolvina ones)
Its weird to me how in The Originals the only way a POC could have a happy ending is if they were connected to the Mikaelsons Vincent could only be happy by having Freelin's baby Keelin had to learn to love her kidnapper Marcel married his groomer
I have a ton more but I cant think off the top of my head
Read ๐ฏ.๐ญ from the story ๐๐ก๐ ๐๐ข๐๐๐ฌ ๐๐จ๐ฎ๐๐ก โโ F. O'Neill by -saintsiren (๐๐ข๐ฏ) with 6 reads. ashtray, na...
Read ๐ฏ.๐ฎ from the story ๐๐ก๐ ๐๐ข๐๐๐ฌ ๐๐จ๐ฎ๐๐ก โโ F. O'Neill by -saintsiren (๐๐ข๐ฏ) with 1 reads. natejacobs...