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it’s frustrating how some people deny the clear predatory subtext in orochimaru’s obsession with sasuke. it’s right there in the text, whether you want to acknowledge it or not.
starting with the curse mark, it’s literally an ownership contract. it’s placed on sasuke’s neck, a symbolic and literal form of control. later, it’s revealed the curse mark could take away sasuke’s free will. orochimaru is forcing sasuke to seek him out.
now think about orochimaru biting sasuke’s neck. it’s violent and intimate, followed by sasuke screaming in so much pain. his body is being violated, changed against his will. this is not something sasuke willingly subjected himself to. it’s abuse, plain and simple.
orochimaru’s conversation with anko shows his taunting nature. he implies anko is jealous of his interest in sasuke, while also commenting on sasuke’s beauty. talking about sasuke’s body in such a context isn’t innocent, it’s clearly possessive and uncomfortable.
orochimaru refers to himself as a predator multiple times and refers to sasuke as “prey” and as “his”, showing possessiveness. and talks about being interested in his young body.
sasuke’s discomfort is clear throughout the series. he tries to keep the curse mark a secret to avoid worrying others. and in part 2 he is seen sleeping with shoes on, as if he was ready to flee at any point in time.
even with all of this, there are still people who claim sasuke was willingly groomed. they ignore the abuse he’s enduring. his body, his autonomy, all violated. it’s mind-boggling to hear people excuse it.
orochimaru’s behavior is even more disturbing when you look at how he’s drawn. he licks his lips in many scenes while talking about sasuke, which makes even kabuto shudder. the subtext is clear: his attraction is disturbing, and it’s there in the text.
sasuke isn’t the only one targeted by orochimaru’s grooming. there's kimimaro, kabuto and team taka. karin also bears bite marks on her body and chest, implying a pattern of sexual abuse. it’s intentional characterization of orochimaru as a predator.
many fans outwardly deny and challenge orochimaru pedophile subtext despite often being the same ones making unfunny rape jokes about orochimaru and sasuke. they disregard this as him only wanting to possess sasuke's body as a vessel but it's clear there was more to it.
the openings and endings team really tried to drive the point home with their animations showing how clearly predatory the relationship is. sasuke is seen mostly naked when around orochimaru, it’s creepy and unsettling.
the manipulation, coercion, and violation of sasuke’s autonomy are not hidden or unclear, they are an essential part of orochimaru’s character and his relationship with sasuke. while some may downplay it as "just interpretation," the text itself is clear. kishimoto's writing reflects orochimaru's predatory behavior and dismissing it as mere "subtext" seems like an attempt to sanitize the uncomfortable truths in the story.
have your theories for whatever you think is the truth about s*rada's conception but please leave karin out of that mess.
obviously she was involved in the delivery and kept the umbilical cord that s*kura seemed not to care about but that's about it. I'm supposed to believe that this girl who only cares about sasuke's happiness would go behind his back with her new bestie s*kura to create a clone child and have that chain him to a woman he rejects every single time, even less donate her eggs to have another woman surrogate carry and raise her biological child, please.
as my friend says: top tier old men yaoi
check the qrts 😭😭
https://x.com/MunstaMasta/status/1866273427348156617?t=bgsEdkb-wpe39dtXVZCW2Q&s=19
checked it + the replies lol.
i just don’t agree with people who say narusasu is queerbaiting. i mean- queerbaiting is a marketing strategy, kishimoto writing stuff that displeased young men (general audience) because he wanted to is not a marketing strategy lol. a real marketing strategy is nh/ss, canonising pairings so rabid fans follow a flop low quality sequel… that’s straightbaiting lmao.
this was hilarious 😭 the same thing crossed my mind fkshdj
people are awake
now since i’ve had funny interactions last week… the difference between a real gay ship and an invented one k
Naruto most likely sees how the world around him works, and it affects his behaviour, especially since he craves for acceptance.
Notice the difference in his reaction when another guy says he likes him in part 1 vs part 2.
(Sorry for a bit poor quality, it was difficult to find an accurate translation, most were viz translations which didn't convey this convo very well). In part 1 he's just annoyed, because he doesn't like Kankurou as a person. He didn't even think about that "I like you" could have certain other implications. But in part 2 he's straight up creeped out by Kakashi saying the same thing, eventhough the meaning and intention is the same in both.
Naruto's reaction to Kurama mentioning his kiss with Sasuke was also way too over the top. Like really comical. Naruto was putting on a show in front of everyone. But whenever he's with Sasuke, he forgets all about this, he is fine with waxing poetry to Sasuke, or Sasuke being close to him...
My guess is since he went through puberty he also learned things about himself and thus started to become more sensitive to such things. Thus internalized homophobia.
Take this scene for example. He seems a bit uncomfortable being there. Sai was probably made to be like this (inappropriate, talking about p*nis all the time, being compared to Sasuke, challenging Naruto about his fixation on Sasuke) so Kishi could introduce more such themes into the manga. He's rather clever about this.
Another guess (it could be both combined) would be that since Jiraiya is so aggressively straight man (to the point he has to introduce himself by saying he's not into men lol) living with him for those years during the timeskip could have affected Naruto's mindset even more. But it's funny how Kishi keeps stressing over and over how Naruto finds Jiraiya's er*tic books boring. Also unlike Jiraiya who peeps on women for p*rverted reasons, Naruto does it as a prank, and in order to practice his oiroke no jutsu. Kishi is trying to show how they are different. I remember on one discussion forum one guy actually brought up he noticed Naruto's changed behaviour after he came back with Jiraiya! Like that he was even more gay and more sensitive to gay things. See, other people notice too.
Then he calls Konohamaru's boy-on-boy jutsu "nasty". Naturally, it's a shonen, Naruto can't have a comically interested reaction like Sakura to something like that, it wouldn't fly. Thus the internalized homophobia. But I also think he didn't want to see Sasuke who he's possessive over being with Sai like that lol. And Naruto really isn't one to talk considering what he came up with later.
Look how proud he looks. Little hypocrite. He's been working on those twink bods more than rasengan lol. Kishi wasn't very subtle with that comment. Also Kishi fought for this moment with his editors for YEARS because he just really needed to write this down. It was just that important to him...
Of course Naruto's repression comes up when it comes to Sasuke as well. Here he admits Sasuke is attractive, but then immediately backpedals on it. His real feelings just slipped.
Later, he was thinking about Sasuke, his mind consumed by Sasuke, but when Sakura and Sai appear his whole body language changes and he immediately claims he was thinking about a date with Sakura. He didn't want to be vulnerable nor let anyone know about his real feelings at the moment. He is hiding behind a heterosexual facade.
But sometimes Naruto doesn't even think of backpedaling on it. He is with his supposed "crush" yet unlike anyone else who would try to get closer or maybe flirt, he is just thinking about Sasuke. This is actually a moment that made many people raise their eyebrows. Including people who didn't like narusasu, or people who didn't ship anything. Specifically because it's written like a clickbait, as in Naruto says "he is happy" and Sakura going "huh?" and because she's his supposed crush who is taking care of him as I said most readers would expect next page have Naruto say something that would emphasize his crush on Sakura. But no, he goes on about Sasuke. No matter how much ss/nh insist we see gay everywhere, many other people picked up on Kishi's writing at many points during the story. But anyway, even with the internalized homophobia, Naruto's love for Sasuke is so strong he can say crazy things about Sasuke to other people and to Sasuke himself that things like "I'm starting to like you" (a completely average thing to say to another person) can't compare to, and still be unbothered by it.
Finally there is the interaction with Minato. Naruto wants to look good in front of his dad so he hesitantly agrees Sakura is his girlfriend, despite how in the previous arc we were shown that Naruto knew Sakura still likes Sasuke, and was angry at her when she tried to confess to him. So he is obviously not serious about Sakura being his girlfriend, but he is saying it to Minato hesitantly. Yet when his dad is leaving he doesn't want to lie anymore.... but he's also hesitant about admitting he hasn't found a girl like his mom wanted.
About the last part, I think it's referring to the armadillo scene? I think it was Kishi's typical humour, like how Naruto saw Haku in makeup and feminine clothing, and assumed Haku was a girl, but then was told Haku is a boy and went "oh okay, I didn't know that kind of thing existed". Here there was instead an armadillo that somehow looked like it was wearing makeup (??? idek or at least looked feminine) and since Naruto needed to write down whether the animals were boys or girls (a ridiculous cover up mission they made up to hide the war was going on from Naruto lol) but then it was flipped over with everyone else and Naruto saw its p*nis and went "even if heaven and earth switched places, a male is still a male". I guess Kishi likes this kind of thing lol... his d*ck jokes...
I know it says "the world might flip over" here but I know it's actually that proverb "even if heaven and earth switched places" that's often used in Japanese.
EDIT: this got flagggged by tumblr so I had to edit sus words.
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itachi fans be like what if fugaku is the problem when writing fanfiction about sasuke
so like was season one being as good as it was an accident or something
Maybe cause idk how they did it sooo good when they did s2 soo bad
Well, there was 6 writers for season 1 to start. 4 of those left, leaving 2 original writers (who’s original version of the script was cut because it was straight up ‘bad’, according to the others) who were very open about just “not feeling” like writing for Vi. The first season was centred around its heart, the two sisters. The story that they set out to tell was there’s. But Christian and Amanda felt like focusing on the “brotherly love” between Jayce and Victor, which is straight up insulting and quite misogynistic. None of them can get their story straight either, first it was supposed to be five seasons, then was only meant to be one, then two, then whatever makes them look better.
The white, liberal upper class American writers were not ready to grapple with the incredibly real politics of the first season so they dumbed it down into the “pacifism good! Never fight back or you’re a criminal and just as bad.”
There’s that, and the third writer they brought on was a MARVEL writer. If you’re wondering where the cringe dialogue came from, it’s there. No wonder if took them, by their own admission, 27 hours to come up with the line “I am the dirt between your nails”.
Arcane season 1 was and will always be a masterpiece. It’s practically Shakespearean. It took them 6 and a half years and some real love and care. Season 2 was made in 2 and a half years for profits (c’mon, look at how much expensive merch they have. $200 skins? I need a better source for this but apparently it was the most expensive animated show in terms of making merch and marketing) and focuses on shocking the audience and its spectacle.
WHAT makes people think that kakashi “you’re a soldier not a child you need to get over it and be loyal to the village” hatake would be a better more wholesome father figure than fugaku “itachi gets good grades you should try to be more like him” uchiha.
fun fact: you guys don’t know what a fact is!!
M: Stinking cute, right?
F: ...that he is.
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Bet Fugaku's moody ass was smitten with baby sasuke
They’ll be idiots embarrassing each other
1. Naruto would mock Sasuke’s sensitivity but often end up being embarrased himself
2. He sleeps like an octopus, even when they are mad with eachother
3. Sasuke will take advantage of those 2cm at risk of looking corny
4. Sasuke gets surprised every time Naruto drags him into PDA, and will flip the tables just to make him embarrassed
(Bonus: Kakashi forgets he no longer has the sharingan every time)
Waiting for the bus…
YIN and YANG, SUN and MOON… Sasuke and Naruto 💕
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