TY for the shoutout!!! ily ❤❤❤
I just finished listening to this episode so i obviously have some thoughts again though they’re in no way coherent or cohesive so I’ll just bulletpoint them 😅
First off, I’m really happy that in order to introduce the topic of motherhood and mothers in sw you started off with a theoretical background. My english major (derogatory) heart cheers! Feminist theory is such a large and very messy field (I just recently finished a 6-page essay on the perception of femininity in some books myself and hooo boi, i really hate navigating the whole shitshow of feminist academia), so I’m really glad how you narrowed it down to a very specific area of mother figures in fiction that you also explained really well. Which leads me to…
I loved how you brought in TV tropes again when you talked about “fridging” and the “missing mum” - i think it was so important to get this clear understanding that these tropes that you’re discussing are not just present in star wars but they are generally prevalent (and annoying). I like how u pointed out how the mother often becomes the person on whom the blame falls for any violence committed against the protag, wheter its because of their absence or presence. Very interesting!
I also like how you worded that theory is one (academic) way of expressing activism. I think a lot of people tend to forget that for some reason (especially in the case of queer theory)? Which is very odd? Like critical theories have grown out of the need to talk about the topics that political and social activism raise in academic settings. But I myself, on the other hand, have also always argued that we should never succumb to over-theorization because that leads to the generalization of identities which ignores actual lived experiences. We must always keep in mind the intersectionality of everything, which is why it is also awesome that you emphasised that.
Putting on my lingusitic glasses, i think its also an interesting discussion to have: who or what is a mother in the first place? You rightly point out that mothers in fiction tend to only exist in relation to their children, as tools in their journeys. But on the other hand, a “mother” is, in essence, defined by their child either way – or else they wouldn’t be a mother. I think its an interesting discussion to have, like how the figure-type of a mother in fiction differs from actual motherhood and how much of a mother’s identity is related to her child. But when we talk about narratives and narrative choices, then real life is not a story. When we discuss fiction, then we cant actually discuss real life, especially in the case of genre fiction which operates based on set generic conventions and has specific figure-types. So how do we define a “mother” in fiction? Thats the question. Idk if what i just said makes any sense but *shrug emoji*
Which brings me to the sidenote: STAR WARS IS A FANTASY. Blah blah discourse blah blah. Everyone knows my opinions are always sexy and correct and I say that star wars (the trilogies) is Fantasy. I could literally do a massive presentation on this topic (bc genre conventionality is my academic interest) but for the sake of the length of this post i’m just going to say this: different genres operate based on their own generic conventions, which includes figure-types, themes, etc. The star wars movies may have science fiction elements (and elements from other genres) but it primarily operates very much on fantasy conventions. Which is why it should also be interpreted through this lens bc sw is heavy genre fiction. (This is about the trilogies. When we talk about stuff like The Mandalorian, its slightly different but the mando show is such a brilliant piece to do a genre analysis on but aaah stop talking!!)
I laughed so hard when you mentioned how Anakin unfortunately fails to realize that the “outside force” that is manipulating the Jedi is right in front of him 😂😂😂
BREHA!!! I love her your honour!! Idk if you’ve read Leia Princess of Alderaan but that book obviously goes into more detail about Breha. The reason why she can’t carry children is because she had an accident when climbing a mountain to prove herself suitable to be the queen of Alderaan (tradition thing). She actually has these artificial pulmonodes (?), which i guess is like a mechanical replacement for heart and/or lungs that Breha actually doesn’t even cover up with synthskin, according to the book. But of course, this is all book canon and not movie canon, where she was just basically ignored, despite being, y'know, the actual ruling queen of an entire planet with Bail being the sexy trophy husband who also happens to be in politics.
Concerning Leia, in TROS it is mentioned in a cgi flashback scene that she basically gave up her jedi training with luke bc she had a vision about her son. So that could be something you’d be interested in for your future episodes??
And last but not least: yeah how come sabine gets to have two fucking spectacular mums?! Milf rights, honestly.
I really shouldnt say anything more now other than Thanks for another really interesting episode!!!! Really looking foward to the future ones ❤❤❤❤❤❤