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@spam-monster
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Hey every! Have a compilation of all the canon and officially released depictions of big shot Spamton as a reference resource! It's all so scattered so I thought I'd try to put everything in one place â€ïžđ§
To anyone as accuracy-brained as I am, note that there is a lot of variety between artists in officially approved material released by fangamer, the materia collective with the music albums, etc. Just look at Spamton's height for instance
In game he's not that much shorter than Kris (his head is just too big for his ice cream cone body lmao), but compared to Kris and Ralsei in the artwork he is tiny. The littlest sponge đ€
I think of it as primary and secondary sources. Deltarune's text and pixel art are king. Any other artwork has been approved and is meant to inform, but it's not as accurate as something firsthand.
Speaking of Spamton's height, he states that he was always shorter than the other Addisons
I take the Sweepstakes not being canon to mean that Spamton didn't actually host a fundraiser in the timeline of Deltarune or take questions from its players, but I see no reason why all the information he gives about himself wouldn't be intended to fill in what we know about him.
The air freshener provided in Spamton's own bag of garbage invites a pretty direct before and after comparison. It kinda looks like he got some really botched plastic *rimshot* surgery, but he was really insistent that they DO NOT TOUCH THE NOSE!! The nose stays!!!! Long ass nose forever!!!!!!
I feel like this pasted-over poster is the clearest, most unbiased source. It's ostensibly just a picture of him, and we can see how his later appearance exaggerates it. Same hair, little round blush, big smile. Also has a decidedly long nose
Here we have a recreation of Spamton's face by someone who knew him. The nose is less pronounced, but it's implied that Tenna made it smaller intentionally to... make him less attractive I guess. With regards to the shnoz, I'm inclined to trust the poster over Spamton's bitter former partner. Especially since Tenna's own nose is possibly fake
I don't have fun commentary on these I just think it's so funny that when they released that SNEO art initially they cropped out the part where Spamton is crying on the floor. Diabolical
This is an outlier to me because it's the only time he has glasses and the only time he's not drawn like a little munchkin. I personally think this is Spamton's wishful caricature of his current self. He tries using it to catfish during the sweepstakes. But I don't know that for certain ofc
And I believe that's everything so far! Have a bonus (incomplete) compilation of times characters describe what he was like!
I'm kind of obsessed with the electronic lighter one. Why was your nose in there. All text and images brought to you by the deltarune text dump and the glorious strings attached website
I've been wondering for a long time why people say that the pipis of spam and tenna will hatch something; I thought they could only hatch many mini spamtons.
To be fair, we donât know at this point if that pipis is capable of hatching or not, but it does seem to be somewhat different from other pipis. (Itâs also possible that there are different types of pipis â battle pipis, edible pipis & egg pipis, or that the ones Spamton uses in battle with his mini-Spamtons are just unfertilized ones.)
First of all, Tennaâs pipis literally chirps, and it even is conscious enough to chirp more often when itâs in Spamtonâs old room. And the sound it makes when it chirps? Itâs glitchy notes from Spamton & Tennaâs shared leitmotif, âHEY EVERY !â If this pipis was just made by Spamton, it would more likely use notes from his own âSpamtonâ leitmotif, not their shared one.
We know Tenna is aware itâs a living creature:
(from this post)
And both Spamton & Tenna refer to having a kid; Tenna dramatically tells Mike to âtear down my set, tear down my kids!â in ch3, and Spamton says something pretty similar in his Valentine to Tenna where he asks why Tenna is throwing away everything they made together (which Tenna is very much not doing; instead heâs desperately clinging on to it all, but Spamton doesnât know that at this point).
Tenna even has the Mikes sing the pipis lullabies!
Iâve talked before about how the pipis is a near perfect representation of Tenna and Spamtonâs relationship & their love â Tenna is ashamed of anyone finding out about it, so he hides it in a literal closet; itâs been in a kind of stasis for ten years ever since Spamton left, but itâs still alive in there; Tenna has stubbornly held on to it and nurtured it in private, because it will always be one of the most important things in the world to him no matter what; Spamton literally expected Tenna would have gotten rid of it by now, but is overjoyed to find out he kept it instead; in the version of the game where Spamton is either killed or left behind in chapter 2 (so heâs not there to talk to Tenna), Tenna will be ridiculed for keeping the pipis, and will leave it behind when he runs away out of shame, where we can then kill it as we killed any chance of Tenna & Spamtonâs love surviving. This metaphor is a big part of why I think the pipis could possibly hatch when they reconcile and find love again.
A lot of people also overlook this post from the Spamton Sweepstakesâs importance to the discussion:
This implies that the pipis will probably either stay the way it is now, as a glitchy little egg, or hatch into some kind of âfreak of nature.â The pipisâ Light World form could even be an actual mod to the Cat Petterz game, like the one Spamton was able to send to Noelle over email (shown below). Either way, it is alive and sentient as a creature in some way, and may very well actually be Spamton & Tennaâs child. (I also believe the above post has implications about the Benefactorâs reasons for separating Spamton & Tenna â because they were technically âincompatibleâ Darkners, and they were both trying to break the ârulesâ of the world/the game that say âyou canât choose who you are,â because of their love for each other.)
(My own personal theory for how the pipis came to be â in the Dark World, at least â is that it probably wasnât much different from any other at the start, but when Spamton gave it to Tenna, Tennaâs strong love for it combined with his reality warping abilities, & made it into a real living being that now contains both Spamtonâs and Tennaâs magic. If it is capable of hatching, I think it likely needs both Tenna and Spamtonâs love & magic to do so, and thatâs why itâs been in stasis since Spamton left.)
I find it to be very funny that one of the main points people had for the idea that ralseai was going to be evil pre-Chapter 3+4 was the whole "lets close our eyes and think of Susie" thing
Obviously, this was signaling towards the idea that Ralsei is aware of the Soul's presence and how it functions regarding its available perspective. However, people thought that Ralsei was trying to lead us away--that he was trying to distract from his "evil plans" with Kris or whatever. However, we can now deduce that he does this not maliciously, but for Kris's sake. He wants to give them the ability to separate from the Soul, even just for a little bit.
However, the reaction people had towards this, I believe, only strengthened Ralsei's motive and distrust towards the player.
I mean, we were separated from our oh-so-special Vessel for a few minutes? And we took that as "Ralsei is evil and should not be doing this"
The fact that we could not fathom being away from our all-seeing view onto Kris likely would only make Kris (and anyone else who knew about the Soul) extremely uncomfortable
Since everyone is raising an eyebrow at the idea of weeaboo Asgore, I'm gonna make a new post about a bunch of stuff I talked about regarding Asgore from the last year:
#1. Asgore, owner of the gosh durn flowershop, knows about Kris and Us/The Soul
#2. The man has been covertly communicating via Floriography with Kris/someone else, via the flower arrangements heâs been leaving all over town/giving to Kris
#3. No, seriously. This man has been playing us like a fiddle
#4. This shit right here
And for those of you who want the weeb explanation right fucking now:
now that last one there? Hana Otoko? Hanaotoko? Ok buckle in party people
So è±ç· means "flower man" right, but it also sounds very close to è±èšè aka Hanakotoba which means "flower language" and is also the name of japan's version of Floriography aka the art of communicating via flower arrangements that all have different meanings
What does Mr. Dreemurr seem to do a lot of in his free time?
Talking to his damn flowers right, specifically these ones:
Huh, huh
Sans seems to be implying, in both english and japanese, that Asgore's flowers are more like prisoners then "friends" huh
"The flower man, trapped in an asylum" look at how (what we assume to be Asgore) has his hands positioned on either side of that flower, almost covetously
If you view it that way, then the meaning of that prophecy window could mean that its not Asgore who was/will be trapped somehow, but litterally a flower man being held against their will by Gorey instead
He keeps them in glass, both protection and prison. And guess what else i found while looking for stuff in the text dump?
I thought this was related to the dark crystal shards, and it still could be (it would make sense with everything we've seen so far)
but after rewatching Asgore and Sans talk about his plants and the under glass mention, combined with the fact that these flowers seem to be being held captive? And Asgore is seriously up to some sneaky shit on top of all that?
I think the Fun Gang needs to have a chat with these flowers like right now
cos its very possible that Asgore doesn't want certain flower truths to be know by pesky kids who can go into the dark world and talk to things they can't in the light world
also
*squints* what fucking movvvvvuuuuuhhhhhHHHHHNNNNNNGGG
oh my god
*long pause*
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*inhales slowly*
but like
come on and slam
and welcome to japan also?
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.......so if theres one thing thats true about Deltarune, its that almost everything is reversed from Undertale:
The Monsters are on the surface, they've always been on the surface
Catty and Bratty aren't friends
Rudy is alive (for nowđ)
and most important is that Asriel is alive
(theres more but u get it right)
with that in mind, lets go back to Undertale, to this mother fucker-
-this mother fucker right here
what is Flowey?
Flowey is a lifeform created from the mix a living flower and dust of the long dead Asriel (fused together with extracted Determinationâą)
so what would the opposite of that be? A dead flower and maybe... the fur of a living Asriel?
But then again wasn't it established that the Gerson we saw in the dark world was just his dust, and not the hammer? So how could a dead flower also be mixed with fur (or somthing else) to equal one darkner? hmmmnnnnng......
well going by the fact that Ralsei's darkword seemly is just made up of paper...
maybe... and this is a reach, but-
How to Make Book Page Flowers: Gather your supplies!- Books you can cut pages out of- scissors- pencil- hot glue gun- x-acto knife (or sciss
And if it was somthing hand made by Asriel, then that could explain why Ralsei is so similar to him...
OR, going back to the dead flower thing?
dried pressed flower
I've made these before, and you know the easiest way to do it? Press it between the pages of a book...
...then forget about it for a long time
again this is a pretty big stretch, but I'm 95% sure Ralsei is flower related in some way
*update*
Got some gasoline for this theory
The Antediluvian imagery in Deltarune Chapter 4.
Disclaimer: the following section was written before Chapter 5 was announced yesterday, meaning that it is significantly more coherent than what follows. Thank you, and proceed with caution.
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Iâm not the first person to notice this, but I have Angelâs Egg on my mind and I need to get this out.
In case you havenât noticed by now⊠Deltarune Chapter 4 sure has a lot of allusions to real-world religious texts, which makes perfect sense for the Dark Sanctuaries formed from the church and a metanarrative regarding fiction and storytelling.
Not just in relation to the stories themselves, but in how these ancient writings are recorded and interpreted.
To show what I mean⊠hereâs some extracts from my old high school study edition Bible.
The more you know.
Thereâs a lot of references to the Genesis chapter specifically, (the act of creation, trees and fruit related to forbidden knowledge, the separation of dark and light, etc.), but the one I want to focus on is the story of the Ark.
The TaineBot01 abridged version is as follows:
Following the consumption of the forbidden fruit (commonly believed to be an apple), the invention of fratricide by Cain (the farmer not the AI ringmaster), and the proliferation of the Nephilim (the semi-divine offspring of humans and supernatural beings), God decides its time to wipe the slate and start over.
Noah, being the one human God considered righteous, was instructed to build a massive boat and preserve a mating pair of every kind of creature, plus enough food for everyone to survive, so life can continue after the world has been washed clean.
Noah followed these instructions to the letter, and seven days later the rainfall began on the seventeenth day on the second month, resulting in a flood that lasted 40 days and nights, sparing no one but Noah and his descendants (sidenote, but Japhet the firebird from the OFF is named after one of Noah's sons. anyways back to the summary)
One hundred and fifty days after the rain stopped, at which point the mountain peaks were seven meters underwater, the waters started to recede and the boat came to a rest on the seventeenth day of the seventh month. As the waters continued to recede, the mountaintops reappeared on the tenth month.
Forty days after, Noah sends out a raven and a dove. The raven kept flying but the dove returned, then another seven days later Noah sent out the dove again for it to return with an olive branch, indicating the presence of land and vegetation. Another seven days later, Noah sends out the dove again, only it does not return.
God then promises to not flood the earth again, the rainbow being a sign of this promise (another sidenote, the word used to describe this sign, or "mark", is the same word used to describe the mark of Cain, or stars as a sign or omen. unlike the first sidenote this one is actually important)
Life begins anew and sinful thoughts still exist in the world, but the flood will not happen again as per this promise.
That's the version most people know, though details may vary based on transcripts.
(For reference here's some rather blurry photos from the aforementioned study Bible. This one's a contemporary edition meant for high school divinity studies but you get the idea.)
Simple and has absolutely nothing to do with Deltarune, right?
Hahaha, nope.
The allegorical story of an imperfect world washed away by its divine architect, mirroring the creation of the world from the primordial ocean of chaos, may have rather important implications in the world of Deltarune, where Water and Darkness are symbolically connected through Dark Fountains.
A flood of ink to wash it all away, hellâs roar bubbling from the depths, fountains overflowing to cover the world with darknessâŠ
And the bridge from Raise Up Your Bat.
Come follow me into the dark
With your heart as the ark
Which shall shine you the way
Because I'm with you in the dark
With your heart as my mark
Which shall guide you the way,
Through the waves
The only part that Ralsei doesnât completely change through the Kidzbop cover version, and also the part where the Lost Girl motif shows up.
In addition to the recurring ideas of rainfall/floods and the divine imagery of the Angel, the numbers seven and seventeen show up quite a bit throughout the story of the ark. The rain began seven days after Noah was instructed (mirroring the seven days in which the world was created), Noah brings with him seven pairs of every kind of bird, the flood began on the seventeenth day of the second month, and the ark came to a rest on the seventeenth day of the seventh month, Noah waits in seven day intervals when trying to find out whether the waters receded.
Now hereâs the fun part.
If youâve been paying attention, you may have noticed Iâve left out a rather important element of the original story.
I left it out because Deltarune also left it out.
Thatâs right folks, itâs birds again.
No seriously.
Birds are one of the most important aspects of the original story - to find out if any land remains after the flood, Noah sends out a raven and a dove, and eventually the dove returns with an olive branch, indicating that some form of land is out there.
(As for why the raven didnât find anything⊠being a pretty ancient story the idea is that the dark carrion-eater bird was âwrongâ while the light, pure bird was ârightâ. Birds donât work that way irl, donât assign morality based on feather colour folks.)
So birds are kind of important to the story of the flood, because theyâre involved in what happens after everything gets washed. But it doesnât end there.
The versions of the bible most people know feature an interesting word choice when it refers to the animals of the world. Youâll often see phrases like âall animals, reptiles, birds, and fishâ, or âevery kind of animal and birdâ. Why arenât birds considered animals?
The reason for this is due to the Bible being an ancient text that has been translated many times. The original word means something like âwinged creatureâ or âflying creatureâ, thus these phrases mean something like âanimals of the earth, sea and skyâ, or âanimals on the land and in the airâ.
This has lead to some funny instances where bats are referred to as birds, when we know now that they very much arenât birds. Theyâre bugs.
We understand that birds are a subset of animals thanks to a little thing called taxonomy, but this wasnât the case for the people who recorded these stories long ago and just saw flying things in the sky. So now, it seems really weird to make an exception for birds specifically as if theyâre something other than animals.
Deltarune really doesnât acknowledge the presence of birds at all. Unless itâs to make a joke about Berdly or as an offhanded comment like with Kris's birdcage or the Weird Birds sounds in chapter 1. There are, however, several birdlike darkners that show up on occasion. Swatch and the Swatchlings, Poppup the dolphin-birds, the Starwalker Bird, Spamton and the Addisons if you squint (I always see artists draw them like birds of paradise so Iâm throwing them in here), Guei the Ghost-Birds made from the hope candles, the fire extinguisher chicken guy, even the Titan has feathered wings.
And the Winglade darkners, based on the same quill pens as their sword equivalent, are described as halo_bat in the code despite moulting like birds⊠which is pretty funny for reasons described above.
And the quill pens they form from are specifically described as made of white feathers.
A white pen, known as Hope.
I think you see where Iâm going with this.
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This was written before the trailer for Chapter 5 showed us this.
I wanted to go further and talk about possible allusions to Gnosticism which invert the typical associations of the Old Testament (with Yaldabaoth as the malicious creator of the imperfect material world, and the first humans consuming the fruit of the tree of knowledge being a step towards enlightenment rather than an act of sin), as well as the possible implications of the Gnostic Phoenix (the bird not the lawyer) towards Deltarune's avian imagery and connections to the birdcage/wings/angel.
However my brain is too fried to go on after receiving the greatest hit of confirmation bias in the form of this single white feather.
All I have to say now is I am happy to confirm:
Bird Theory is Biblically Accurate.
(Postscript edit: since this one's super messy for further reading I'd recommend these posts for a more in depth look into the water/darkness imagery and connections to the story of creation and Deltarune's metafiction okay thanks ^^)
More nonsense: "heart as the ark" = "one heart carrying everyone's elses like some KH BS" = "hey that's kinda like how Flowey/Asriel absorbed all the monster souls into themselves and saved them from calamity by breaking the barrier"
= "Kris the vessel is gonna save everyone in either the light or dark world from the Roaring by absorbing all their souls and keeping them safe until the Titans are stopped but it's gonna tear them apart probably"
Idk how birds fit here tho. Angel/Noelle or Berdly as the "dove" who gets let out first to make sure it's safe for everyone?
big fan of when a character is dead and the narrative frames them in a very angelic, soft, gentle manner but then it turns out not only are they still alive (plot twist) but theyre alive in the most gruesome and horrific way. your loving kind mentor who motivates you to fight in their memory came back wrong and theres blood and dirt under their fingernails from clawing they way out of the grave.
Grace mate bad as hell statement.
Doodle between comms
Listening to Andy Weir talk about eridians is so funny because fans are always talking about Rocky and Adrian as these âsoftâ adorable aliens but Weir wonât ever let us forget that their species are apex predators on their planet. Not like humans who became apex predators by inventing weapons, but natural top of the foodchain like lions or polar bears. So far I havenât found an interview where Weir explains who ate eridians in the ancient past that caused them to watch over each other while they slept; another predator species or rivaling eridians.
Grace is joking around with a selectively violent creature that can rip his soft squishy body apart in an instant!
But itâs also a lot of fun to hear Weir talk about all the stuff he wants to include in a possible sequel, like the fact that eridians can have several conversations at once even with the same eridian. He imagine Rocky and Adrian bickering in one conversation while having a nice conversation at the same time that slowly turns into a fight and all of a sudden theyâre yelling at each other in two conversations about different things.
He also says they have terrible spacial memory because they can see everything around them all the time thanks to their echo location so to them itâs crazy that humans can only see in one direction but still remember whatâs behind them and even what the last room they were in looks like. Apparently eridians mostly just remember that the room exists and that it has the computer in it but if you asked them where the computer is placed in the room theyâll struggle to give a precise answer.
And Rocky got scared when Grace hugged him because eridians donât have a concept of expressing affection with physical touch. To them itâs only neutral or violent because thanks to their hard shell they canât really feel much. They only use it to move each other around or to break through their preyâs shell to get to the soft insides. So in their inter-species friendship only Grace would feel any desire to touch Rocky. It makes it very cute that Rocky joins in on Graceâs hugging ritual. Itâs purely for Graceâs sake.
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The thing about Miss Piggy is that she kind of has a Roger Rabbit comedy superpower where she wins nearly any conceivable fight she's in. But unlike other characters of which that's true, like say, Bugs Bunny, who tend to win because they make the opponent play the game with their rules, Miss Piggy wins because the joke is that she can beat the shit out of literally anybody.
Bugs Bunny beats Thanos by setting up an airport and making him take off the Infinity Gauntlet to go through the metal detector.
Miss Piggy beats Thanos by karate chopping him in the face and sending him flying.
Trying to throw them into a dark world, but I donât know what theyâre dark world fits would look like
deltarune pride flag from the new trailer go be gay or something
KRIS IM SO FUCKING SCARED FOR KRIS AND KRIS IS BLUE.. AND TEHYRE ALONE IN ALOT OF CUTSCENES... AND CH5 HAS HEAVY JAPANESE ONFULENCE. IM SO SCARED