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We all ignoring just how fucking catchy Caine's song was?

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COUNTERARGUMENT THEORY

I’ve seen people comment that Pomni’s torture scenario was kind of weak compared to the others, and that it could be because she hasn’t been in the circus as long, thus Caine can’t personalize her punishment as well.

And even if he’s technically using their traumas to hurt them, I don’t think that was his main intention. I think he was “replying” to their criticisms.

Pomni: We think your ideas suck!

Including Gummigoo, Pomni?

Zooble: Pathetic! You’re like a child! What kind of all-powerful being has such fragile ego?

How can someone, whose body perfectly encapsulates their mind and is fully customizable, not feel satisfied yet? How many options do you need? How vain can you be, Zooble?

First of all, I know that Zooble most likely suffers from dysphoria, and Caine focusing the torture scenario on that was a massive dick move on his part, especially when Zooble had shared their insecurities about their body in a previous episode.

However, in that same episode, Caine shared with Zooble his own insecurities.

Caine: Making adventures is my art! It’s all I exist to do! All I am… good at. (…) … w-what you’re saying could imply that I’m bad at the only thing I’m good at, and that…

I’m just saying that he probably took Zooble’s criticism as a low blow of its own and he made it personal.

Ragatha: You never let us feel like we’re at home.

Which home? Yours, Ragatha?

Gangle: You discourage us from thinking outside the box and doing things our way!

Spudsy’s was a hell of your own making, Gangle.

Jax: You lie to us constantly!

And you don’t, Jax?

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Wait so at a basic level, TADC is just IHNMAIMS but the humans win

The originator thought in Gooseworx's mind that made TADC?

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Bubble is the remnant of the second AI

I thought this was apparent, but I've been convinced otherwise so I'm going to put some evidence on the table.

The intro to episode 8 showed us that there were 2 AIs and the first ate the second and stuff Now bubble can be easily interpreted as Caine's self doubt, and I don't think this interpretation is wrong. It fits in with the rest of the cast and the theme, it brings a human flavor to caine which kinda didnt land in 7, and the stuff bubble says matches up with someone who is doubting themselves. I'm saying that bubble intentionally represents multiple things. My main evidence beyond just what bubble says and the lining up of 2 ai figures is in Kinger's console scenes, specifically near the end.

The scene in the show is a little hard to parse with the distractions and filters, so I'm going to use a clean transcript courtesy of u/ColourBlinde on Reddit.

Near the top, you can see Caine blocking off Kinger from doing anything, which was the norm for most of this scene. The main focus is in the last third, where a new entry labelled "......" starts talking. 6 placeholder characters. gangle, zooble, kinger, and bubble are the only main cast names with 6 characters, and I think I can confidently cross out three of them from being the culprit without worry. So bubble entered the scene and told kinger to "kill this motherfucker hahahaha" Then when kinger said no, bubble told kinger that he was confused before taking over and killing caine himself. Kinger even tried to abort the deletion, but his inputs were ignored. Now unless bubble is suicidal, which hasn't been communicated at all, there's some sort of vendetta against Caine. K im gonna play deadlock now fill in the blanks k thx bye

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I got nothing.

No wacky theories, no observation of insinuations. Everything was clear as day, there's nothing to single out. I'm content.

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Is Kinger already abstracted?

This isn't a fully fleshed out idea like my other theory posts, just something that crossed my mind.

We know Kinger is crazy in the light and lucid in the dark, which is shared with abstracted people as we've seen during Queenie scenes and Kaufmo while he was still in his room.

It was also alluded to that Caine can have an influence on when people abstract, and between Abel's dialogue and Kinger having a hand in creating the circus, it's not outlandish to suspect that Cain and Kinger have some sort of beef.

Maybe Kinger was able to resist the abstraction in some way? We know he still has power over the system as we've seen him cheat in health during the deathmatch, as well as a glimpse of an admin key in his pillow fort.

Or maybe Kinger being the way he is could just be a symptom of falling into abstraction, and he's just masterfully teetering on the edge. There's probably multiple parameters for having it happen to someone.

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A theory about ENA Dream BBQ CH1 ending that involves SOMA and the horror of copies.

The scene of ENA and the shaman saying the same things at the same time kept sticking in my brain. There's no other example in the game where ENA does something like that, so it more likely meant something than not, right?

Well, after scrutinizing the shaman's words, I think I might've figured something out.

On first interaction with the shaman, he says: "One person can be in two places at once. Although, the magician does not have to be in two places at once"… "He can be in one place at one time"… "Because he would be lost in the other person's mind." (ENA says this line with him) "I'm glad we understand each other, ENA."

The fact that ENA was able to catch on and duet the third line tells us that she is an example of the "magician" that the shaman is talking about.

Now as for what the third line actually means, there are two interpretations that I can think of.

1st: The magician can have a copy of his own mind in a body in one place, and his previous mind would remain, unable to leave (hence, lost) in the other body's mind.

2nd: The magician can have his own mind in a body in one place, and his previous mind would dissapear from the other body, or be 'lost.'

Now if we take these interpretations and apply them to the ending scene of chapter 1, we can see that the old body loses its ENA mind, and the new body has its new ENA mind.

Therefore, the 2nd interpretation is the more closely accurate to what the shaman is trying to say.

And if you've played SOMA, then you know that an ENA truly died in that scene.

Kinda messed up.

However, there also seems to be a discrepancy of information between the shaman's words and broken Theodora's words.

Near the end of the dialogue with her, she says this:

"I choose to remind you that this place we are in is too far away from your real, physical form."

Now whether that physical form is the FleshNA we see in the core, or some other thing we haven't seen yet, there's no conclusive answer. But what this does mean is that ENA might also be in two places at once, OR her mind is in her non-physical form and not in her physical form. All this is kinda outside the scope of what I wanted to say, but if anyone has the spare brain power to consider the details, please let me know what you come up with.

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TADC Cast Has No Escape HEAR Me out please

Ok I made a theory post on this by the time the fast food episode came out but more information has been revealed, including information given by proving a different theory false in the latest episode (and I also lost my account)

Now my theory hinges on these main things being correct:

-Caine wasn't lying when he said he doesn't know what C&A looks like

-The real world follows normal current day physics, no teleportation or matter deletion

Also, there's a high chance that this theory won't actually end up being true for the sole reason that TADC is a widely loved show, and that it needs to have a proper ending. This theory is mainly just a harrowing thought experiment.

Without further ado, let me prove why the cast can never, ever, EVER escape the circus

The main claim is that the cast are clones of their real selves, and as such, "escaping" the circus would just mean that their data-mind gets deleted.

The main evidence: Everyone in the cast agrees that they entered the circus through the SAME headset. In the bar scene, its alluded that the cast members found the headset by looking through an abandoned area, some doing it for kicks and some for making videos.

Now how does a headset put a person into a virtual world?

If we're assuming normal physics, then sucking up the entire person into the headset is just fantasy, so that's not it.

There's a possibility that it renders the person unconscious, but everyone using the same headset makes that not make sense, not to mention the person would eventually die anyways. There's the idea that C&A handles the unconscious bodies, but the fact that that idea was shown in the show only to be revealed as fake pretty much writes it off as being the actual narrative.

So what's left?

Mind copies, and implanted memories.

But I don't like the idea of implanted memories, so that can't be it.

Thoughts?

Also food for thought; Why was jax abstracting if abstracting is Caine's doing? Unless abstraction has multiple parameters.