Roastin' and Toastin' some Gnasty Gnorcs!

With good and wholesome positivity!

[virginalbehemoth-moved-deactiva]

we got too many pride flags

[virginalbehemoth-moved-deactiva]

im not proud enough for this

[ihavegaysex42069]

naur

[lifeofcynch]

literally only a few of these are actual real and valid things everything else is complete bullshit i hate MOGAI so much😐

[kokichi-oumed]

My fucking eyes jesus christ

Also what’s with the gender non-conforming pride flag? GNC people aren’t automatically LGBT…I mean I appreciate the sentiment cuz GNC people do get a lot of flak but don’t lump it in with LGBT please and thank you

[lifeofcynch]

yea exactly, like, cishets can be GNC too and that doesn’t make them LGBT, and GNC gay/bi/trans people are only LGBT because they’re gay/bi/trans. we don’t need flags for every specific little thing, it just makes things super confusing to both people outside and within the community. like do we really need a pride flag for… wearing certain clothes?

[georgeboleyn-againstovertime]

I have a few questions:

Why ate the femme an intersex ones outdated? Can someone please explain how the POC lgbt flag is inclusive when not all POC have brown/black skin? Also, does every country have an lgbt version of their country’s flag? What does the Israeli trans flag mean?

[spyrocourse]

I know some of these.

The femme flag is listed as outdated due to a lot of discourse over it (the creator turned out to have made racist remarks about an asian girl she went on a date with+had some pretty weird and strong dislike for butch lesbians+it was designed specifically for femme lesbians anyway. Also think there were some transphobic remarks too but I didn't see those ones.).

The South African flag is just their pride flag. I can understand that they would have pride in being LGBT+ and South African, especially with how bad I've heard homophobia is over there. Likewise the Israeli Trans flag is just a highly visible flag for trans Israeli folks. Not everywhere in the world uses the American designed flags after all.

Additionally, Trixic through Enbian are just terms created for nonbinary folks attraction. If memory serves me right, they were developed in early discourse over nonbinary identities because we got harassed for calling ourselves gay or lesbian when we weren't men attracted to men or women attracted to women. Trixic~nblw. Toric~nblm. Enbian~nblnb.

Also because I've seen this confusion before, "queer chevron" is the flag for queer as an identity. The "chevron" part comes from the stripes being V-shaped and was probably meant to distinguish it from other queer pride flags.

[dinopant]

for the lOVE of god can ace people not make a million ace icons for fucking literally babies and children????

whats wrong with yall

do you people think

[dinopant]

Dude

Because other pride flags and headcanon are about romantic attraction

LGBT isnt inheriantly sexual

While asexual is LITERALLY a term about sexual attraction

You are thinking about the sexual lives of children. You guys play innocent that their asexual so nothing sexual is st play with kids, but the claim to headcanoning a character as asexual opens a door to sexual headcanon or minors. It’s still a headcanon relation to a characters sexual life. And we just dOnt need to involve minors in sexual content headcanon and whatever dumb shit one way or the other

Saying a character likes the same gender romantically or experiences a different gender is not the same as saying a minor isnt interested in sex

Yeah they should be interested in sex their minors! But you dont NEED to start thinking about their sexual lives!

Theres billions of adults to headcanon as asexual. Just stick to that man. Leave children alone.

[spyrocourse]

You realize that only applies to asexuality under the split attraction model and even then, if I think a kid character would find out they’re an asexual lesbian in ten years that means they were an asexual lesbian at 10 years old and needed to learn that ahout themselves as they grew older. I should be able to say that. We can’t argue that sexualities/orientations are inherent parts of who we are that we need to discover thanks to cisheteronormativity and then say “but this one is bad because everytime I hear it I makes assupmtions about whether or not kids fuck so you aren’t allowed to say kids can be this”. It implies our attractions aren’t really inherent and can be changed if we try.

Also, asexuality has nothing to do with if you have sex or not. Even under the SAM ot’s specifically about lacking attraction to gender. I don’t think kids should have to worry about split attraction but pre-teens and teens are at ages where they might begin to notice something different lile they don’t like the “right” gender, a common thing among aspec communities just like other one. If it’s a teen or preteen there’s no harm in those headcanons because those are literally the ages we ourselves realized we were asexual and headcanons based on our personal experiences aren’t gonna hurt you or kids.

If people are trying to say “asexuality makes sexual headcanons of kids okay” then buddy have I got news for you. That’s been happening for a lot longer than the creation of AVEN and the widespread recognition of asexuality. People make sexual headcanons of children because they’re freaks who like to see kids be sexual or think kids are “hot”. Sexuality headcanons of like, Spyro the Dragon as an asexual aren’t gonna make kids go “oh it’s okay for people to talk about my sex life or treat me in a sexual way” it’ll make them go “oh it’s okay to be asexual. Not liking anyone(in this way) is okay and normal! Anyone can be asexual ig”. And that’s a good thing isn’t it? This arguement that asexual headcanons are a “slippery slope” to making other, and what you obviously mean are graphic, sexual headcanons doesn’t fucking work, makes zero sense, and it’s literally been happening since before asexuality and the split attraction model were even a thing, meaning the reasons behind them are clearly different and completely unrelated.

[spyrocourse]

I forgot to add that you also don't know if it's being done in a "supports asexuals" way and that if hearing an asexual person say "x child character is asexual" makes you think "this child clearly doesn't fuck and thinks about not having sex, therefore other kids fuck and think about having sex" instead of "someone related to this character and wants to see themselves in them/this child feels no attraction to any gender/would ID as asexual as an adult" then I think it's you who's too busy thinking about childrens sex lives and not asexuals.

[dinopant]

for the lOVE of god can ace people not make a million ace icons for fucking literally babies and children????

whats wrong with yall

do you people think

[dinopant]

Dude

Because other pride flags and headcanon are about romantic attraction

LGBT isnt inheriantly sexual

While asexual is LITERALLY a term about sexual attraction

You are thinking about the sexual lives of children. You guys play innocent that their asexual so nothing sexual is st play with kids, but the claim to headcanoning a character as asexual opens a door to sexual headcanon or minors. It’s still a headcanon relation to a characters sexual life. And we just dOnt need to involve minors in sexual content headcanon and whatever dumb shit one way or the other

Saying a character likes the same gender romantically or experiences a different gender is not the same as saying a minor isnt interested in sex

Yeah they should be interested in sex their minors! But you dont NEED to start thinking about their sexual lives!

Theres billions of adults to headcanon as asexual. Just stick to that man. Leave children alone.

[spyrocourse]

You realize that only applies to asexuality under the split attraction model and even then, if I think a kid character would find out they're an asexual lesbian in ten years that means they were an asexual lesbian at 10 years old and needed to learn that ahout themselves as they grew older. I should be able to say that. We can't argue that sexualities/orientations are inherent parts of who we are that we need to discover thanks to cisheteronormativity and then say "but this one is bad because everytime I hear it I makes assupmtions about whether or not kids fuck so you aren't allowed to say kids can be this". It implies our attractions aren't really inherent and can be changed if we try.

Also, asexuality has nothing to do with if you have sex or not. Even under the SAM ot's specifically about lacking attraction to gender. I don't think kids should have to worry about split attraction but pre-teens and teens are at ages where they might begin to notice something different lile they don't like the "right" gender, a common thing among aspec communities just like other one. If it's a teen or preteen there's no harm in those headcanons because those are literally the ages we ourselves realized we were asexual and headcanons based on our personal experiences aren't gonna hurt you or kids.

If people are trying to say "asexuality makes sexual headcanons of kids okay" then buddy have I got news for you. That's been happening for a lot longer than the creation of AVEN and the widespread recognition of asexuality. People make sexual headcanons of children because they're freaks who like to see kids be sexual or think kids are "hot". Sexuality headcanons of like, Spyro the Dragon as an asexual aren't gonna make kids go "oh it's okay for people to talk about my sex life or treat me in a sexual way" it'll make them go "oh it's okay to be asexual. Not liking anyone(in this way) is okay and normal! Anyone can be asexual ig". And that's a good thing isn't it? This arguement that asexual headcanons are a "slippery slope" to making other, and what you obviously mean are graphic, sexual headcanons doesn't fucking work, makes zero sense, and it's literally been happening since before asexuality and the split attraction model were even a thing, meaning the reasons behind them are clearly different and completely unrelated.

[spyrocourse]

Hey y'all.

If you like some of these memes I made, here are the original pics for your use! If you make a Spyro meme please tag me or submit it to me because I love them.

[yorksilk]

can I call myself a lesbian if I'm attracted to every gender but male?

I’m definitely not an authority here and different nonbinary people will probably have different things to say but I don’t think I’d rule that out as something you could do. I know some people who even use the older definition of lesbian that includes attraction to men, and although I do have mixed feelings about that, I think at the end of the day it’s your decision

[spyrocourse]

It depends! Some of us enbies are uncomfortable with it because we're not "woman lite", so saying you're a lesbian when you're also attracted to us feels a bit generalizing. There are masc-aligned enbies, unaligned enbies, fem-aligned enbies, and so on.

Ultimately it's up to you but if you find yourself dating an enby, maybe see how they feel about it because a lot of people would still be uncomfortable since we might feel it unintentionally misgenders us!

[spyrocourse]

It's late ramble time and I can't believe this needs to be said but like. There is no harm to headcanoning Spyro as asexual and only asexual. If you do not use the split attraction model asexuality can be functionally the same as saying you are gay or bi or straight. That is to say, a young straight boy would be saying "I like girls" not "I wanna fuck girls" so a young asexual kid would be saying "I don't like boys or girls" not "I don't like sex". And when I say young I mean like, puberty age, which the sources I've read put between 8-11 on average and state it's totally normal for kids to begin questioning what genders they like. Kids don't generally think about or care for sex, so obviously a kid isn't saying anything about their sexual preferences.

Now, if you see "asexual" and only that as a headcanon for a child and assume it says anything about that child or other children's sexual preferences, then you are sexualizing children. You are associating kids with sex/sexual situations because you can't divorce the idea of people liking no gender from how much people fuck or wanna fuck. That's a you problem. If you apply the SAM to children or asexuals every time you see the word "ace/asexual" then that's a you problem and not an ace problem.

Also, asexuality is not the default for kids because kids have no sexuality and asexuality is still a sexuality. Sexualities require self reflection and a lot of questioning about the genders they like that most kids aren't gonna do or care about so you cannot push any sexuality on them as the "default" because there is not "default" sexuality for kids. They don't have any and that includes asexuality by virtue of it requiring the same kind of thought and questioning other sexualities need to be recognized.

Now, I am all for people telling off others who claim Spyro is asexual because he doesn't fuck since 1) as a child he shouldn't be worried about sex anyway and 2) "doesn't fuck" is the wrong definition of asexuality. But you don't get to call asexuals bad for making a headcanon that doesn't even hurt anyone or sexualize children when y'all are the ones applying sexual attraction to minors the minute you see an asexual headcanon.

[mostlyfurriesprobably]

I just find it interesting how this fictional dragon is so often becoming the target of discussions concerning sexual orientation. I think part of is that Spyro doesn’t show much interest in the opposite sex in the original trilogy and AHT, inevitably prompting discussions as to why. Is he gay? Is he asexual? Is he aromantic?

The simplest answer of course is that he’s a kid. He’s not at a point yet we’re he’s looking for romantic relations. He just wants his beach vacation on Dragon Shores. Michael John said some interesting in a piece by Escapist Magazine: 

“He first comes to grips with a changing relationship with adults, then understands the importance of friends, and finally explores alternative identities and the impending confusion of romantic relationships.“ 

To me, this means that the developers made a conscious effort to show that Spyro is still very much in the “figuring it out” stage. 

This is balance that the original trilogy managed much better than the Reignited Trilogy, by the way. Oh and I really hope they don’t spawn him an appropriately aged female dragon in the next Spyro game, just to shut up the shippers. It’d be a bit predicable. 

Anyway, In a sense I think it’s a good thing that these kind of discussions take place to begin with, especially since many of the kids in the Spyro fandom are still very much in the figuring out stage themselves and talking about these things openly is a good thing. 

So what I’m saying with all this? Well that’s Spyro’s definitely gay. 

[spyrocourse]

Though I normally love these sort of discussion, I feel you missed the point of the post. This is in response to people claiming asexuality is a bad identity because "if you think one child can know they're asexual then you must be imply any other child is interested in or actively having sex" and if we make this headcanons of Spyro we're "bad people" for "sexualizing minors". Which is gross to do to people since that's literally not what we are saying and the people making these claims actively try to shame or demonize people for asexual headcanons because "children aren't interested in sex". Of course they're not, they're children. But I knew I was asexual when I never got crushes on anyone. I was a child once and I wasn't interested in sex.

Plus, if I think Spyro would find out he is asexual as an adult, he was still asexual as a child. He needed to figure himself out and understand his feelings as an adult. Much like you can't change being gay, bi, or straight, you can't change being asexual so kids who later learn they were ace were always ace.

My other point was that asexuality is not the default for kids. Kids have no default sexuality because they aren't going to be interested in or put in the effort to question their attraction. You can't apply sexuality to children at all and that includes asexuality because I is still a sexuality.

But I support your gay Spyro, though I hope they add some dragon gals for him to be friends with and go on adventures with. I think that would be cute!

[ferretslive]

I want to play this dang game!!!

[finchwingart]

Wanted to draw the shiney new fire boy *^*

[theomeganerd]

Spyro Reignited Trilogy Character Concept Art

[deactivateddeviant]

[rollinrabbit]

fairy-kissed

[kirukrono]

Spyro the Dragon (2018)

[maplespyder]

recently having a lot of fun drawing dragons, so here’s spyro!

[cloudypouty]

Yes, I made more of these. 

I was disappointed that no MagicCrafter dragons had been revealed yet! Guess we’ll just have to wait till the game is finally released.

Maybe I will turn this series into a purchasable postcard set in the future?

[troublewiththetrolleyeh]

Official Toys for Bob artwork of some of the dragons, shared by Canadian Guy Eh today on his Twitter! 

[gorrem]

Spyro: Reignited Trilogy, Dragons Vol 1. (click for higher resolution) instagram: http://www.instagram.com/Gorrem

https://www.artstation.com/gorrem

I helped design about 30-ish dragons for the the new games. Here’s a few, more coming soon, links pending. Otherwise don’t forget to +follow to see more in the future! In no particular order: Revilo, Thor, Ulric, Copano, Cyprin, Jarvis,Zeke, Boris, Eldrid… did I forget a name?

[sketchingsands-deactivated20211]

I dig Nicholas Kole’s design of older Spyro, so I took a shot at a slightly younger version. Spyro JUST got hired as a balloonist and Sparx recently got glasses, but already broke them. I gave Sparx the Nicholas Kole mustache.