The Sultry Sirens

Welcome to our grotto, where the laws of man hold no sway upon our wiles. Here, may you find pleasurable images and writings which delight, tease, and tantalize the senses. We are beholden to but a single muse, universal and undeniable: Lust. We hope our sirens Fluxx and Nightshade tend to your every need.

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Check out the Turtle's Doves community on Discord - hang out with 6 other members and enjoy free voice and text chat.

For fans of the fic who wanna get to know the author (moi), hear about behind-the-scenes stuff, discuss the characters and plots, and see unposted and unfinished chapters before Tumblr and AO3!

- Nightshade

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Where can we read your new works?

https://archiveofourown.org/users/SirenNightshade/works

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I've thought back on the turtle doves series every now and then and always appreciated just how well you wrote their personalities and characters. You gave them better treatment than their own movies 😅. Thanks for writing your thoughts as to how the series would've continued and I will fondly remember them after rereading them earlier this year.

Aww, thank you, and you're welcome. If only I could do something with this creativity of mine, I could probably make a good screenplay writer or novelist.

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Miss your writing!

I'm still writing! Just not fanfictions that I can post.😂

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Have you watched the new Frankenstein movie ?

I have not! This is news to me. I'll need to look that up, I love Frankenstein. :3

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Do you still read fanfiction?

I didn't really read much fanfiction since my teens, so not so much, no. As of now I don't think I've read any fanfics in a couple years.

Funny enough, reading some TMNT fanfics is what got me started on this several-car passenger train, so that's cool. :3

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Hiiii, hope youre doing well. I’ve been checking in every now and then because I love your guild codex series (I love the way you’ve written zylas’ pov). Is there any update on that at all?

There is an intent to complete it, I just haven't found the motivation and interest to do so yet. We'll see if I circle back around, my current interests are waning and that sometimes does mean I pick up older projects again...

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Hi! I’m a fanfiction writer that’s struggling a bit with writing smut for the first time. I was just wondering if you had any tips? I’m a really big fan of your TMNT series and felt like all your smut chapters were written so well and so real. I’m really good at writing intimacy between characters in the emotional sense but my mind draws a blank whenever I get to the sexual stuff. I need help!

Honestly, my best advice for writing is to read.

Specifically, read things and analyze what it is you like about what you're reading. The descriptions, the perspectives, the focus, etc. Don't get overly concerned about what your strengths/weaknesses are, because in the end, the people who like the way you write will find you.

Concerning yourself with what people want when they don't like the way you write is just foolish.

That said, if you want to simply improve to become more satisfied with your own writing: read.

Not just other stuff either. Reread your own stuff. Do it with an open and analytical mind. Find the parts where you don't like what's happening and fix it. Find the parts you do like and read it carefully, word by word.

Avoid repetitive words and terms, too, especially uncommon words and terms. Things like "the pleasure is blinding" or "s/he's shaking with orgasm" are very uncommon so they stand out, and if you use it over and over, the readers get bored and gloss over it.

Get a thesaurus if you have to, or just really frequently use google's definition/synonym system to find similar terms. (I do. 😉)

Good luck and happy writing!

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Crazy to think I was Jocelyn’s age when I started reading your TMNT fanfics lol now I’m a full grown woman with a college degree and a boyfriend! There’s this bittersweet feeling I get coming back every now and then to check up on your blog.

OOOF, yeah that hit me. XD Yeah it's been 8 years since the beginning, almost down to the day, iirc! Aug 2017 is when it started. I don't remember the exact day.

And to think it started because I somehow thought Raph didn't get enough love and I created this ballerina to give him that love. ♥

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You watch Supernatural?

I definitely used to, lol. My husband and I used to watch it. I think we stopped around season 9? It just got too convoluted, lol.

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It’s almost spooky season!

My favorite season, ngl!

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Missing you always! xoxo

Aww, thank you...

If you're on Discord you could always just chat with me. :3

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Can you make up summary post about how your series was supposed to end?

You know what? Yeah, this sounds like a good idea.

I'll do this in two ways, but to preface, I want to say that I never did fully figure out where it was going. I'm not that kinda writer, y'know? But I had basic beats, and it might go into plots that people don't like or weren't interested in.

I'll give a summary below a Read More so no one accesses it by accident, but I'm also going to share a LINK to the raw files on my Google Drive.

This folder contains all four stories (which, humorously, are in the correct order just by the titles, lol) which are separated further into their own Main, Mini, and Misc minifolders.

This is your last warning that this is getting into MAJOR spoiler warnings...

Now, onto the summary.

THE LINK (to the entire google docs folder, which includes 14 chapters of The Dragon but is FAR from complete): [link]

THE SUMMARY:

To begin with, we have the unfinished arc in which Lisa is contacted by her father (Kevin).

The short summary (planned) there was that, initially, his goal was to reestablish a connection... because he has leukemia. But the secondary goal, once he gets to talking, is in finding a DNA match for treatment, cause all things considered, he doesn't wanna die.

Ultimately this comes second to his ongoing primary goal, and after a period of difficulty in which Sam and Lisa discuss what they're willing to do for a man who hadn't truly been a father to them all these years, Kevin ultimately passes.

(He's where Lisa got her ADHD, btw. I didn't realize it at the time of writing him, but his constant failed projects and complete absence of time-tracking skills? Textbook ADHD.)

This, understandably, wrecks the siblings for a while, but they get through it.

Then we have The Encore.

During this spate, there's a 3-year time skip/coverage, the main plot of which is Jocelyn and Raphael getting married... then discovering she's pregnant.

This seems highly unlikely, so they check again and again, and end up concluding that the mutagen is... unsurprisingly... mutating things. Not only in Jocelyn to make pregnancy possible, but in the fetus she's carrying to make it able to adapt to a hybrid gestation.

It's also discovered somewhat early by Donnie, given he still gives her monthly blood tests. In these tests he recognizes a pattern of increased HCG levels a grand total of something like 7 times, with the levels getting higher with each instance... as though her body is adapting to a series of incomplete pregnancies.

This leads Lisa and Mikey to be more careful, since Jo and Raph were NOT lmao, hence the whole deal.

At age 21, Jocelyn becomes the mother to Angelico, a little turtle/human hybrid baby boy who honestly just looks exactly like his dad, just with a few more fingers and toes. (This is partly because like, c'mon. I get it's a feature of the TMNT but turtles have 4-5 fingers and toes just like most everything with a spine.)

And then in comes... Sophie.

It's not what you think.

This is where The Dragon officially begins. Mikey is going on a solo trip through the sewers when he hears what sounds like crying, and turns out to be a little toddler turtle just like them. Shocked? So was he.

He brings her back to the lair where Jo immediately becomes Mom to her too (much to Angelico's annoyance as a 1-year-old) and the turtles begin investigating the strange new child's appearance.

It turns out that she (a girl) crawled through some even smaller drains to get there, having originated from a lab underneath a building for a company called Sacks-Khan.

If it sounds familiar, it's because it is.

After Eric Sacks was taken down, another partner rose up to salvage the company and turn it into something better: Xen Khan. Outwardly, it was a fantastic company that spent millions every year on charity endeavors.

But it's now been made clear that they still had the blood that had been drawn years prior from the turtles, and they were using it on experiments. Sophie is one such experiment.

The turtles infiltrate the location and find it's being protected by a hell of a warrior... one might say... kind of like a Dragon? Nicknamed Lóng Lián, the figure fights them for a while in full protective gear including a motorcycle helmet before the helmet is cracked and they're forced to take it off.

The turtles are given two shocks simultaneously: this is a woman (at 6'5", the same height as Leo), and... she has both long, black hair and tough green skin. She's a hybrid, half turtle and half human... but how?

After a few encounters and conversations with her, she's identified as Mei Khan, Xen's daughter, who was definitely human just a few years prior.

She was formerly a martial arts prodigy and actively participated in contests and competitions, until an accident left her paralyzed. After receiving a "radical treatment", however, the use of her legs was restored... at a cost.

This marked the first experiment using the turtles' blood, specifically Mikey's, and altered her permanently. It increased her height dramatically, returned the use of her legs, changed her skin tone and slightly altered the shape of her face, and even had her begin growing a small shell, which is seen a little bit in her art (in the link).

(A few pics for y'all.)

She remains wholly devoted to her father, which turns out to be a bad thing for multiple reasons. For one thing, Xen has been using the mutagen to change various animals, then kill them after a few years of farming more mutagen, then drain their blood and separate the mutagen and...

Yeah, bad news bears.

But the other thing? It eventually becomes apparent that he's not Mei's father.

He ended up adopting her after killing her parents out of jealousy that her mother married another man. And when Mei is given this information and confronts him... he has her captured as another experiment, resulting in the amputation of her shell for research purposes.

Yeah. This sparks a great deal of vengeance in her.

She eventually learns that her parents were originally protectors of powerful Chinese artifacts, and her real name is Mei Pieh Chi. If that sounds familiar, it was meant to. :P

The story is meant to be very ambiguous with whom she has a romantic inclination, to the point of Mei herself being constantly confused (Donnie and Leo are very flirty, both, and she's extremely inexperienced herself so she isn't sure what she's feeling).

In the end, she gets with Leo -- which a lot of people were predicting, lol.

She herself goes full vengeance and almost kills her not-dad, and ultimately results in taking him to court for damages and exposing. Jo's mother, Cecilia, represents her.

In public, Mei reveals herself and shows the extent of the atrocities having been committed by Xen, and given she is both a wounded party and the recipient of his life insurance policy... yeah.

The company is fully dismantled, the assets dissolved into the community, and Mei is awarded over 20mil directly. Guess what she puts it towards?

Her new family and their life.

She buys a massive warehouse to be their new home, of course very very quietly, and they build it into a fortress with three sewer entrances for covert excursions. She has officially joined their team as part of their little ninja clan.

Then comes The Driver.

To be honest, I think this is where my motivation started to flag, cause I could not decide on a storyline for it. I went all over the place.

Initially the character (nicknamed Pinky for having pink hair) was Kelvie, and then Alicia, being half Latina (I was thinking Puerto Rican or Dominican, at times).

Two things remained true:

She had a daughter named Chantry,

She was a mechanic with a great mind for vehicles.

Later, she evolved into a scientist in her own right and was part of the team studying Mei (by court order). Obviously, the mutagen represents an incredible resource and it's of extreme importance that they understand and contain it, lest it infect every living thing on the planet.

Though, to be honest, at this point it's guaranteed to saturate the planet eventually.

I had a brief couple of eventual ideas, including turtles from the future traveling back in time to change, fix or thwart something, revealing that in the end, all of the boys became fathers and all of their kids became ninjas and so on.

But aside from that, I didn't have much, lol.

Another tentative plot involved a different dimension which due to science opened a rift that sucked in Jo initially and then Donnie recreated the event and Raph went in to get it... it was interesting, but a little too wacky for the overall story. XD

But, there ya go. The general plot.

I have no idea where the actual story would have gone, had I continued to the end. Probably somewhere totally different. Alas, now we'll probably never know...

But it was a heck of a journey getting there, wasn't it? ♥

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All that for three reactions lmao, guess that goes to show how much the hype died over the last *checks watch* five years...

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Can you make up summary post about how your series was supposed to end?

You know what? Yeah, this sounds like a good idea.

I'll do this in two ways, but to preface, I want to say that I never did fully figure out where it was going. I'm not that kinda writer, y'know? But I had basic beats, and it might go into plots that people don't like or weren't interested in.

I'll give a summary below a Read More so no one accesses it by accident, but I'm also going to share a LINK to the raw files on my Google Drive.

This folder contains all four stories (which, humorously, are in the correct order just by the titles, lol) which are separated further into their own Main, Mini, and Misc minifolders.

This is your last warning that this is getting into MAJOR spoiler warnings...

Now, onto the summary.

THE LINK (to the entire google docs folder, which includes 14 chapters of The Dragon but is FAR from complete): [link]

THE SUMMARY:

To begin with, we have the unfinished arc in which Lisa is contacted by her father (Kevin).

The short summary (planned) there was that, initially, his goal was to reestablish a connection... because he has leukemia. But the secondary goal, once he gets to talking, is in finding a DNA match for treatment, cause all things considered, he doesn't wanna die.

Ultimately this comes second to his ongoing primary goal, and after a period of difficulty in which Sam and Lisa discuss what they're willing to do for a man who hadn't truly been a father to them all these years, Kevin ultimately passes.

(He's where Lisa got her ADHD, btw. I didn't realize it at the time of writing him, but his constant failed projects and complete absence of time-tracking skills? Textbook ADHD.)

This, understandably, wrecks the siblings for a while, but they get through it.

Then we have The Encore.

During this spate, there's a 3-year time skip/coverage, the main plot of which is Jocelyn and Raphael getting married... then discovering she's pregnant.

This seems highly unlikely, so they check again and again, and end up concluding that the mutagen is... unsurprisingly... mutating things. Not only in Jocelyn to make pregnancy possible, but in the fetus she's carrying to make it able to adapt to a hybrid gestation.

It's also discovered somewhat early by Donnie, given he still gives her monthly blood tests. In these tests he recognizes a pattern of increased HCG levels a grand total of something like 7 times, with the levels getting higher with each instance... as though her body is adapting to a series of incomplete pregnancies.

This leads Lisa and Mikey to be more careful, since Jo and Raph were NOT lmao, hence the whole deal.

At age 21, Jocelyn becomes the mother to Angelico, a little turtle/human hybrid baby boy who honestly just looks exactly like his dad, just with a few more fingers and toes. (This is partly because like, c'mon. I get it's a feature of the TMNT but turtles have 4-5 fingers and toes just like most everything with a spine.)

And then in comes... Sophie.

It's not what you think.

This is where The Dragon officially begins. Mikey is going on a solo trip through the sewers when he hears what sounds like crying, and turns out to be a little toddler turtle just like them. Shocked? So was he.

He brings her back to the lair where Jo immediately becomes Mom to her too (much to Angelico's annoyance as a 1-year-old) and the turtles begin investigating the strange new child's appearance.

It turns out that she (a girl) crawled through some even smaller drains to get there, having originated from a lab underneath a building for a company called Sacks-Khan.

If it sounds familiar, it's because it is.

After Eric Sacks was taken down, another partner rose up to salvage the company and turn it into something better: Xen Khan. Outwardly, it was a fantastic company that spent millions every year on charity endeavors.

But it's now been made clear that they still had the blood that had been drawn years prior from the turtles, and they were using it on experiments. Sophie is one such experiment.

The turtles infiltrate the location and find it's being protected by a hell of a warrior... one might say... kind of like a Dragon? Nicknamed Lóng Lián, the figure fights them for a while in full protective gear including a motorcycle helmet before the helmet is cracked and they're forced to take it off.

The turtles are given two shocks simultaneously: this is a woman (at 6'5", the same height as Leo), and... she has both long, black hair and tough green skin. She's a hybrid, half turtle and half human... but how?

After a few encounters and conversations with her, she's identified as Mei Khan, Xen's daughter, who was definitely human just a few years prior.

She was formerly a martial arts prodigy and actively participated in contests and competitions, until an accident left her paralyzed. After receiving a "radical treatment", however, the use of her legs was restored... at a cost.

This marked the first experiment using the turtles' blood, specifically Mikey's, and altered her permanently. It increased her height dramatically, returned the use of her legs, changed her skin tone and slightly altered the shape of her face, and even had her begin growing a small shell, which is seen a little bit in her art (in the link).

(A few pics for y'all.)

She remains wholly devoted to her father, which turns out to be a bad thing for multiple reasons. For one thing, Xen has been using the mutagen to change various animals, then kill them after a few years of farming more mutagen, then drain their blood and separate the mutagen and...

Yeah, bad news bears.

But the other thing? It eventually becomes apparent that he's not Mei's father.

He ended up adopting her after killing her parents out of jealousy that her mother married another man. And when Mei is given this information and confronts him... he has her captured as another experiment, resulting in the amputation of her shell for research purposes.

Yeah. This sparks a great deal of vengeance in her.

She eventually learns that her parents were originally protectors of powerful Chinese artifacts, and her real name is Mei Pieh Chi. If that sounds familiar, it was meant to. :P

The story is meant to be very ambiguous with whom she has a romantic inclination, to the point of Mei herself being constantly confused (Donnie and Leo are very flirty, both, and she's extremely inexperienced herself so she isn't sure what she's feeling).

In the end, she gets with Leo -- which a lot of people were predicting, lol.

She herself goes full vengeance and almost kills her not-dad, and ultimately results in taking him to court for damages and exposing. Jo's mother, Cecilia, represents her.

In public, Mei reveals herself and shows the extent of the atrocities having been committed by Xen, and given she is both a wounded party and the recipient of his life insurance policy... yeah.

The company is fully dismantled, the assets dissolved into the community, and Mei is awarded over 20mil directly. Guess what she puts it towards?

Her new family and their life.

She buys a massive warehouse to be their new home, of course very very quietly, and they build it into a fortress with three sewer entrances for covert excursions. She has officially joined their team as part of their little ninja clan.

Then comes The Driver.

To be honest, I think this is where my motivation started to flag, cause I could not decide on a storyline for it. I went all over the place.

Initially the character (nicknamed Pinky for having pink hair) was Kelvie, and then Alicia, being half Latina (I was thinking Puerto Rican or Dominican, at times).

Two things remained true:

She had a daughter named Chantry,

She was a mechanic with a great mind for vehicles.

Later, she evolved into a scientist in her own right and was part of the team studying Mei (by court order). Obviously, the mutagen represents an incredible resource and it's of extreme importance that they understand and contain it, lest it infect every living thing on the planet.

Though, to be honest, at this point it's guaranteed to saturate the planet eventually.

I had a brief couple of eventual ideas, including turtles from the future traveling back in time to change, fix or thwart something, revealing that in the end, all of the boys became fathers and all of their kids became ninjas and so on.

But aside from that, I didn't have much, lol.

Another tentative plot involved a different dimension which due to science opened a rift that sucked in Jo initially and then Donnie recreated the event and Raph went in to get her... it was interesting, but a little too wacky for the overall story. XD

But, there ya go. The general plot.

I have no idea where the actual story would have gone, had I continued to the end. Probably somewhere totally different. Alas, now we'll probably never know...

But it was a heck of a journey getting there, wasn't it? ♥

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While lurking through your tumblr I saw your post about a piece of fiction altering brain chemistry. Your Turtle Dove series did that to me. My brain is broken, I now measure all fanfics by The Dancer and The DJ. I’ve read through them each multiple times. While I hope someday we might get Leo and Donnie’s stories, I wanted to come and thank you for putting this series out for us to enjoy. Now please excuse me while I go read through the series one more time 😏😏😏😏❤️

Aww, thank you so much! I'm glad you love it. And though I'm ashamed I never finished The DJ or started the second half of the series, I'm so proud that I managed to finish The Dancer.

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I made fanart for guild codex demonized, and I'm feral about making fanart for all the scenes XD it seems the fandom is microscopic, your fics are lovely for the series, I hope you have a great day <3

Aww, thank you! Yeah this fandom needs much more fanart. <3 I have a "fic" on AO3 that's just my own fanart pics, if you wanna see that!

I absolutely love this, poor Robin. X'D

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You... use AI? Boo. :`(

I know, it's not ideal. And I wouldn't if I had anyone to actually talk to when I wanted to talk. A mind to just bounce ideas off of. :(

Loneliness, man. It hits hard.

But I intentionally keep my AI use to purely self-entertainment. I'll never use it towards anything that would lead towards any sort of publishing. Not only because it's cheating and disrespectful, but because I want my achievements to be my own.

At most, I might use AI to help me come up with ideas when I'm stuck, but inevitably those suggestions lead me to my own conclusions. I don't think I've ever used an AI suggestion as-is beyond the purposes of self-entertainment. On most occasions what ends up happening is my ADHD takes a suggestion and goes wildly out of bounds with it, landing on a completely different take that I like a whole lot more.

Case in point: everything I've published here and on AO3. For most of it, AI hadn't even existed yet. For the rest, I've simply never gone to AI for any help. I've never needed it.

What's interesting is that I have actually talked to ChatGPT about this very issue, using AI for creative purposes. It's quite interesting because ultimately AI will usually just agree with you, but the thing to be aware of is that AI isn't actual intelligence.

All it does is put words together based on algorithms and pattern recognition. It has no idea what it's actually saying. It doesn't comprehend what you're saying or inputting. It's basically a very high-tech word-scrambler.

It's honestly fascinating to interact with them from that perspective.

That, and their memories are typically very short, so you discover VERY quickly that it's already forgotten what you said ten minutes ago. That can lead to a lot of hilarity. XD