Hello Chingus, it’s time for another wacky KDrama time travel adventure as we follow a 90s KPop idol who has sled his way from 1993 to present day 2017. This fish out of fresh water will marvel at of how far technology has advanced from payphones and beepers to the handy dandy cellphone. Meanwhile, our present day cast is dealing with their everyday issues from rent, cheating boyfriends, practicing, study, and dreaming. Come join in on the wibbly wobbly, timey wimey stuff with June, Logan, an
We’re back with another new drama club - this time for The Best Hit this hilarious fish out of water drama about an idol from the 90s who finds himself in modern day Korean. But humor isn’t all this drama has to offer. Expect intrigue, romance, and betrayal! Are you watching? Join our discussion!
For those who have been following along welcome back! For those tuning in for the first time, welcome! We're taking a trip down memory lane and revisiting the classic Kdrama and one that many claim as their very first Kdrama, Boys Over Flowers. With a fresh set of eyes we've been rewatching for the first time since we first watched it 8 years ago. So far we have noticed parts that were just as we remembered and parts where saw things or experienced emotions we didn't feel the first time. This we
We are halfway through our re-watch of Boys Over Flowers as we start this second half of the series. Grab your suitcases chingus, we’re going on a trip. We have a boyfriend to see, a new friend to make, and our hearts being torn apart, but don’t worry the F3 will be there to help us forget. Come join June, Logan, and myself, Tiara, as we make a break to Macau. Logan: Jan Di may be dating Jun Pyo (or was), but the fringe benefits of being friends with F4 may just have proved to be more be
Hey! Sorry I'm so out of the loop, but I've only just started ( and finished) Boys Over Flowers and was wondering if they ever made a season 2? Google is being no help at all. Thanks in advance!
Hi @isabellacc-blog
There is no second season of Boys Over Flowers. The drama did get an episode extension from 24 to 25 episodes which was a last minute call. Dramafever a few years back did an April Fools Prank of a 2nd season of Boys Over Flowers, but there is no such thing for this drama.
Now Hana Yori Dango which is the Japanese drama broke up their drama into two seasons. First season is 9 episodes and the second season is 11 episodes with a movie where our leads finally go married.
Most KDramas don’t have a second season. There are a few dramas which will, but those tend to be police/crime dramas. Schedules of the cast is always an issue with second seasons due to the live shooting system. Pre-produced KDramas has been increasing because of the Chinese Market and the requirementsthe drama must passed. But a lot of those pre-produced dramas were considered failures last year. But debating the live shooting system & pre-produced dramas, I’ll leave for another day.
Most KDramas tell the story the drama set out to tell. There’s a beginning, middle, and an end much like reading a book. This is totally the reason why I love KDramas as I use to be an avid reader.
If you’re looking for more from the Boys Over Flowers, there are a ton of difference versions to consume. Not to mention, the original source material of the manga and the anime series.
Hello everyone and thanks for stopping. Don't worry we haven't stopped our Boys Over Flowers rewatch, we just hit a couple speed bumps, but we're back. For those who haven't been following along, Tiara, June, and me (Logan) have been rewatching Boys Over Flowers for the first time since the very beginning of our Kdrama-watching days. Now that we have watched a lot more Kdramas and about 8 years have passed, we are looking at the drama with fresh eyes and seeing how it holds up to our memories of
Hello everyone! At Week 5 of our Boys Over Flowers rewatch, we're getting deep into the story now. Jan Di and Jun Pyo's relationship is now official and has only just started to take off when they find themselves jumping over hurdle after hurdle. One of the biggest hurdles they face is the involvement of their family, namely Jun Pyo's "evil witch" of a mom, in their love life. Join Tiara and me (Logan) as we talk about how our characters are navigating the various family drama that comes t
Welcome, Chingus, to week 4 of our Relive the Drama of BOF. *Trope Alert* It’s Battle for the Girl as this week is all about competition with Jun Pyo’s Noona setting up a mini-Olympics. Are you Team Ji Hoo or Team Jun Pyo? Come join June, Logan, and myself, Tiara as we set our critical eyes on episodes 7 & 8. Logan: This week was full of romantic turmoil. If I didn’t already know what was coming, I’d probably be dizzy from all the back and forth. Just when we
Hello drama clubbers and welcome back to the Boys Over Flowers drama club. Our favorite characters are back and went on a vacation and of course, a lot of drama ensued. Join Tiara, Logan and I as we discuss episode 5 and six of Boys Over Flowers. Tiara: Jun Pyo this week is being on his best behavior. I do believe love is in air. He gets to be a knight in shining armor after being a douchebag towards Jan Di. However, I will say I’m a sucker for Jun Pyo when he taking care of her.
Week 2 of our Boys Over Flowers rewatch is underway and one of us seems to be falling right back under this drama's spell-okay, I fess up, it's me (Logan). Now that our story has lifted off the ground, the true hearts and motivations for our characters are starting to shine through their rough, albeit beautiful, edges. While we're still waist-deep in tropes, the reasons that this drama is so iconic are starting to make themselves more and more clear. Join June, Tiara, and me as we continue on th
Week 2 of our Boys over Flower recap is here! Our own fun little twist on the “name a more iconic” meme for our cover photo this week. Hehe.
Welcome, Chingus, to Relive the Drama!! Many of you know us - Logan, June, and myself, Tiara from Scarlet Heart: Ryeo Drama Club. Well, the band is back together again on DramaFever with this exciting adventure. We three had such a blast working together, we’ve become Chingus in Dramaland. Relive the Drama has been something we’ve been talking about since our Scarlet Heart: Ryeo days. For many of us K-drama fans, Boys Over Flowers was the gateway drama into K-dramas. Us Chingus in Dramaland want
The first edition for our Boys over Flowers Drama Club is up on DramaFever! Come join the discussion. We’ll be following up with Episode 3&4 the end of next week to give everyone time to catch up and follow along if they like.
Goblin: The Lonely and Great God- Episodes 14-16 Recap: The Beginning of Goblin Withdrawal
Logan: Well, the time to say goodbye to Goblin has come, but the drama will always live on in hearts, right? The final three episodes were packed with so much emotion and drama! I think a good place to start off is on a happy note. How sweet was the Goblin and Eun Tak’s wedding? It was a long time coming and while normally I would have found it a bit depressing, it was so sweet that they exchanged vows with just the two of them.
Tiara: But I don’t want to say goodbye. I’m still having Goblin withdrawals. *sigh* The wedding is a safe topic. Nice, Logan. I see what you’re doing. I know know what kind of wedding I want. Sweet doesn’t begin to describe the wedding scene. I loved how simple it was and the bouquet from Grim Reaper had me back in tears. Happy tears, but darn do you drama. Do you know how many boxes of tissues I went through?
June: I don't think I'll ever be ready to let go of this drama! I loved the wedding scene so much and their vows OMG! Too much for my little k-drama loving heart to take. I honestly still can't believe this drama is over :( I feel so empty now. But yes, I definitely kept the Kleenex industry going with how many times I needed to use them. No joke!
Logan: You caught me! We have to work up to reliving this drama trauma. How many people do you think are going to try to recreate the Goblin wedding scene for their own weddings? I hear there’s already a bunch of people going to Quebec to vacation just because of Goblin. It’s a phenomenon. The happy tears are the good kind. And there were a good number of scenes that invoked happy tears. For instance, I had so many happy tears when Eun Tak finally remembered everything.
Tiara: Ha! Let’s just add this drama onto the list of dramas which will just rips your heart out and makes you cry. I might need therapy after all the heartache between Scarlet Heart: Ryeo and Goblin. I can’t say I’m surprised everyone is wanting to travel to Quebec. Heck, it’s way closer for me to get there compared to Korea. One day, I will make it to Korea. Eun Tak remembering is happy sure, but that dumb butterfly god didn’t really give her a choice to remember. I don’t count those nine years a happy life when you feel sad most of the time and need pills to survive. Consideration my butt.
June: I should add Quebec to my trip next week. I'll just make a pit stop! Haha The transition from Scarlet Heart: Ryeo and Goblin was fun but it was like living through heartache all over again! Especially this ending, though I will say I liked it more than the Scarlet Heart ending for sure! I agree with you Tiara! Like what the heck she wasn't really happy and would feel so depressed most of the times, it hurt to watch her! I was like “Noooooo! She doesn't deserve that!”
Logan: Those 9 years were absolute torture on all of them. Both the Grim Reaper and Sunny had to keep their memories to themselves and pretend it never happened, the Goblin had to wander some weird desolate celestial wasteland, and Eun Tak could feel something was missing from her life and was miserable because of it. But out of all of them I was saddest for the Sunny. She hasn’t lived a long life like the Goblin and Grim Reaper where she was used to being alone and losing loved ones. It was a new type of pain for her and she endured it alone.
Tiara: However, Shin got to make the choice to walk between Heaven and Earth. The contact between him and Eun Tak allowed him to stay alive. Sunny got to tell the Butterfly God to butt out of her life and let her make her own decision. Grim Reaper remember in part I think because of his punishment. Sure Granny Samshin wanted someone to remember Shin, but I think it was for Grim Reaper to work out his issues. Mostly, the 9 years jump and the amnesia was super dumb and unnecessary. It actually did a disservice to Deok Hwa’s character. Grr!!!
June: Oh my gosh I know! I was like nooooooooo! I loved the whole dynamic between them and with the amnesia part broke my heart. I hate the amnesia trope so much ugh. It doesn't matter which drama it is, I will never ever like it!!!!
Logan: It’s kind of sad that Deok Hwa gets excluded from remembering and we don’t really know what becomes of him anyway. His loose ends did not get tied up, unfortunately. Which is a bummer for sure. But the scene that had me crying more than anything else is probably pretty obvious- Eun Tak’s sacrifice. It was horrible and mostly because I couldn’t even be mad. She did the right thing. But seeing her die after they worked so hard to stay together was so tragic.
Tiara: By using the amnesia trope, the character growth we saw from Deok Hwa after Grandpa’s death meant nothing. He finally learned what it meant to be a guardian to Shin, but now he doesn’t remember. Which means, Deok Hwa has spent the last 9 years as a man child. That growth is all meaningless and so was Grandpa’s death. I love CEO Kim and his relationship with Deok Hwa, but the meaning behind the marriage talk already happened. Deok Hwa just doesn’t remember. I say this again, darn you Butterfly God and you can take your consideration and leave. Okay -- I think I’m done venting. Oh wait, darn you Truck of Doom!!!
June: Exactly!!!! It was like what was the point of everything that happened! I felt a little deceived for Deok Hwa and also because he was one of my favorites and I liked seeing his character growth. But I guess we just had to deal with that :( BUT THAT DAMN TRUCK!
Logan: Deok Hwa really got jilted by Goblin. He deserves his own spin off. And the truck scene was made even worse by the fact that the Grim Reaper got there right after it happened, knowing he was likely going to find Eun Tak dead and then seeing him cry. I swear, every time he cried my crying tripled. He really grew to love Eun Tak in his own way too.
Tiara: It’s very Eun Tak to save those kids, but dude this explains a lot about the Truck of Doom. It sucks she isn’t able to live longer, but the drama tried to prepared us for this. I’m with you Logan about Grim Reaper crying. He was affected by Eun Tak’s death just as much as Shin. It just made me sad for Shin to have to wait for Eun Tak’s next life. Deok Hwa doesn’t remember him and Sunny left to live her life. It really was just Grim Reaper and Shin left. I’d hope for some more bonding moment to help me laugh instead of crying the rest of the drama, but sadly it wasn’t in the cards.
June: The whole waiting until the whole next lifetime made me so sad just thinking about it. Like I tried to imagine how it would be if my friends and loved ones didn’t remember me in the next lifetime, I don’t think I would be able to survive. Anytime the Grim Reaper cried, I cried like 10 times more. So much crying in such little time.
Logan: Even the ending left me with some tears. It was very bittersweet. While some people consider it a happy ending, I can’t. Mostly because for me this drama wasn’t only about romance. It was about the relationships between all the character-the sibling and friendship relationships were of equal importance to me. So the fact that all of those were erased and only the two couples were together was disappointing. I mean you can’t get everything you want out of a drama, but it did make me sad.
Tiara: It’s a bittersweet ending. Grim Reaper and Sunny get to live a life together. I liked seeing them be able to love without politics. Eun Tak and Shin’s love life was always going to be a sad love. The drama warned us all when they first met. It’s able loving each other like everyday could be your last. They do get 3 more shots at love and who knows maybe the Butterfly God will be considerate after Eun Tak’s 4th life. Who knows maybe she’s an Angel in disguise?
June: Bittersweet indeed! I would like to think that they end up having a happy life. I was very happy with Grim Reaper and Sunny. In my head, they did get a pretty happy ending. Who knows though, maybe the Butterfly God let our main couple finally have a happy life!
Logan: In my head both couples meet up later on and somehow all remember everything. I feel like they all need each other. And Duk Hwa get reincarnated too and all five of them live as best friends and somehow the Goblin is now longer immortal so they all grow old together. Yep, that’s definitely what happens after the cameras stop rolling.
Don’t forget our next project will be Relive Boys Over Flowers over at Dramafever. Remember to pick up your Bingo Cards too. Logan, June, and myself, Tiara, can’t wait for us to go down memory lane with you all. Until Next Time - Watch more Dramas.
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Goblin: The Lonely and Great God- Episodes 11-13 Recap: Embrace the Emotions
Logan: Hello, Chingus! The end of Goblin is unfortunately near, but before the series end take some time to catch up on Episodes 11-13 with June, Tiara, and I and talk tears, laughter, and everything in between. We’ll be wrapping up Goblin and then as you may have seen we’ll be coming to you with our next project very soon- A new take on Drama Clubs by Reliving the Drama of Boys over Flowers. We’re very excited and we’ll hope you’ll rewatch it with us and see if it holds up to time. But without further ado, let’s talk Goblin.
Logan: So Goblin may have started some of us on a complete mental and emotional breakdown this week. But before we get into the super intensely sad moments, let’s not forget we had some touching moments as well. Everyone’s memories are coming back of their past lives starting with Sunny to the Grim Reaper to the other, less evil than Joong Heon, but still evil reaper. It was shocking for us to learn some of the stuff we did these last couple of weeks so it must have been even more shocking for our poor characters.
Tiara: For sure. Sunny has to be thinking, before her memories returned, everyone is super crazy. But I guess evening with her past memories it can’t be easy to accept and not get things mixed up. I loved Shin bring Sunny all her favorites, a little outdated, but it’s the thought that counts right?
June: A complete mental and emotional breakdown is an understatement. I feel like I have to mentally prepare myself every week when I watch this drama, especially lately. The little part with him bringing her favorites was adorable.
Logan: I was surprised that he did that. After he talked about how she wouldn’t remember, he seemed surprised that she actually couldn’t. He probably just hoped so much that she would be an exception. Luckily, thanks to the Grim Reaper’s sexy kiss she did get her memories back. Well, not so lucky for her I guess. But hey, not a bad way to get a flashback, huh? I might be willing to relive some of my bad memories if I got to kiss Lee Dong Wook in the process.
Tiara: Logan, I think we all would volunteer no matter the type of kiss ^-* The magic of kissing in dramaland. If only the two participants would do more than just press lips together because I know Lee Dong Wook can kiss. Moving on when Shin and Sunny did get their reunion, I just wished these two could have a second chance at being brother and sister. My heart strings are just being pulled and I swear I need to stock up on tissues before this coming week.
June: Haha wouldn’t we all want to be able to kiss Lee Dong Wook! It’s like a K-drama fan’s dream. I agree with you Tiara! I wish we would see more of the siblings interact and have a second chance. I mean there has to be a reason why they were reunited again and really I just want to see them bond again.
Logan: Haha. I mean, it’s true. Lee Dong Wook’s charms are irresistible. I can’t imagine this drama without him. It would be really nice to see a nice heart to heart with Shin and Sunny and for them to have some time to bond and just hang out again. I completely agree, Tiara. As sad as this week’s episode yet, I have this ominous feeling that we’ve just seen the tip of the devastation iceberg. I mean, we’re only on Episode 13. A lot of bad stuff could still happen.
Tiara: NNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOO!!! Can’t I go without one week of crying? It can be a happy moment and I end up with tears. Grandma Sam Shin coming to Eun Tak’s graduation day was a surprise but a perfect choice. Granny worked hard to make sure Eun Tak could live and to be there in place of her mom. See tears … However, I loved the moment when Granny told Eun Tak’s teacher she could have been a better teacher. One thing about this drama is people get some pretty good punishment for the wrongs they have done.
June: Honestly, after watching all these episodes, it’s like every moment “I’m like TT, Just like TT”. Ha I just had to throw that in there but seriously, I’ve been so emotional watching this drama! I love Red Granny, I just have to say, especially because she was really always there for Eun Tak.
Logan: Haha, that’s the perfect catchphrase, June. Oh my gosh, I forgot that we haven’t talking about Red Granny showing up at Eun Tak’s graduation. Ugh, that was the scene in this drama that really had me sobbing more than anything else so far- but they were happy tears. Whatever type of deity/god Red Granny is, she really cares about her humans and it’s truly touching. One spirit that showed up that was not quite so caring was Joong Heon. I glazed over it before but I was actually frightened when he showed up. I wanted to leave the room he was so creepy.
Tiara: Granny is Sam Shin - the goddess of birth and fate. This is why she calls everyone her children or speaks about creating them. Eunuch Park showing up was a nice plot twist, but dude why isn’t Eun Tak running or blowing out fire whenever he is around? He doesn’t look right nor is he like Casper the friendly ghost. Really where’s the ghostbusters when you need them because evening Shin was having some issues figuring out how to stop Eunuch Park.
June: LOL CASPER THE FRIENDLY GHOST. For real though, if that ghost popped up in my life, I would be lighting something on fire in a heartbeat.
Logan: Yeah, he is bad news. Just the fact that his fingers and lips and tongue are all purple-that’s not a good sign. Him showing up was an omen for evil coming after our beloved characters. Good news, he’s gone but the cost was harsh. It was interesting how both Shin and Eun Tak both fought to be the one to sacrifice themselves. In the end Shin played a little dirty by manipulating Eun Tak’s hands after she passed out, but he probably did the right thing. He knew it was supposed to be him.
Tiara: I am glad Shin was the one to chose to pull the sword. Since everything started with the sword, it’s not surprising it will be the thing to defeat Eunuch Park. Shin was finally able to kill the evil for his King. Bonus, how awesome was it to see Grim Reaper just shout out Park Joong Heon’s name to save Eun Tak. Shin finally got to announce to Wang Yeo his warrior had finally died his heroic death. Dude … the tears on Grim Reaper just about killed me. More so since Wang Yeo thought he died without anyone loving him, but he learns the bitter truth he was truly loved by his brother, his wife, and his brother-in-law. If only that young King couldn’t have been so blinded, he could see the ones who loved him.
June: Man that was so hard to watch. It was like he was finally realizing something he should have all those year ago. But I agree having Shin finally kill that evil man was so satisfying.
Logan: Heartbreak aside, everything about that final scene was EPIC. Well, I suppose even the heartbreak was epic too. Grim Reaper was so intense when he called Joong Heon out and Shin was equally intense. But the cherry on top of this Epicness sundae was Eun Tak’s reaction. Kim Go Eun impressed me so much with her acting. It almost felt like the actor himself had died in real life, her reaction was so realistic. Then as the perfect finale his body turns to embers and floats away into the wind. I mean, WOW! It was insane.
Tiara: It was a pretty scene once I was able to see it through my tears. Theme of this post is definitely tears … anyhoo it’s a fitting end for our Goblin, but does leave us without a Goblin and three more episodes. I do believe our Butterfly God might be making an appearance again. I do wonder if he plans on possessing Deok Hwa’s body again to deliver another cryptic message or just allow everyone to suffer.
June: Tears everywhere to be honest. But I agree, we still have some episodes left and it’s like where are they going to take this now. I know for some reason, this won’t be the last of him.
Logan: That was pretty crazy how he had been possessing Deok Hwa this whole time. Kudos to you all who caught onto his extra worldliness. I was relieved to see that he was only possessing Deok Hwa thought rather than had been him all along because I didn’t want to lose Deok Hwa. I liked what Butterfly God said about them making their own choices and him getting kind of annoyed that they blame him for everything yet they make so many bad decisions.
Tiara: The answers are for them to find out while God asks the questions. I’m sorry but it’s still cryptic. Throw us a bone for crying out loud. Deok Hwa has grown up a lot in these few episodes. With Grandpa’s death, he’s finally learned the reality of being the a brother, father, and grandfather to Shin and is able to accept the position. Speaking of hints, Grandpa’s letter to President Kim (formerly Secretary) about giving all of Grandpa’s possession to a man name Kim Shin. Doesn’t this mean the CEO Eun Tak is going to meet in the future is him?
June: I feel like that’s the direction it is for sure heading.
Logan: It seems pretty certain that the Goblin is the man Eun Tak is going to meet in Canada, but I didn’t think much about the will. I just assumed the Chairman wrote it either before or not knowing the Goblin had told President Kim about himself. But now that you point it out it, it makes sense. As I’ve said before nothing is a coincidence in Dramaland. Red Granny also hinted that good things were going to come to Deok Hwa. That makes me happy. He’s a really sweet soul and I want to see good things come to him.
Tiara: Speaking of sweet souls, Shin coming across an applicant for a Kim Woo Shik who just happens to be his Second-in Command. You know the man who vowed to follow Shin in death after stabbing Shin with the sword. I loved with President Kim told Woo Shik why he was giving him a job, a house, a car, and a name for his unborn son was because he saved a nation in a past life. It’s a phase dramaland loves to use, but darn it got me right in the feels. I kind of wanted more with his bestie from the past.
June: Me too!! I wish we had more of that in the drama!
Logan: It’s totally an appropriate time to use the phrase, Tiara. So many happy feels. That’s the one thing- I think I’ve cried more happy tears in this drama altogether than I have sad ones. I mean Shin’s death was obviously hard, but there have been so many smaller, heart-warming moments that add up to a lot of warm and fuzzies for me.
Tiara: You’re right, Logan. Evening in our darkest hour, this drama can still make me laugh and then cry a few minutes later. Good and sad tears of course. I do wonder what will become of the Grim Reaper since he’s gotten in trouble for using his gifts. Considering the powers that be punished him with Wang Yeo’s memories, will he be given a second chance like possibility Shin. Or will he be forever punished to walk the earth ushering souls to Heaven or rebirth? Fingers cross for a second chance. I think Sunny and Yeo should be able to love without politics getting in the way. Heck, I just want them to be able to go on a date before breaking up.
Logan: They’ve already broken up so many times, that so help me if the writer/producers bring them back together only to break them up one more time I’m going to write them a very strongly worded letters with some very unladylike language. Sunny and Yeo need to get married and have babies. I don’t even care if they’re little half grim reaper babies who go around collecting people’s souls. As long as they’re together. Lol.
Logan: I hope everyone’s geared up for an emotional last few episodes. Have you box of tissues ready, I know I will. Thanks for joining us and we’ll see you again soon!
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Chingus in Dramaland are happy to announce our next project: Boys Over Flowers
@livinginloganland, @itsjunemarie and @aja-villa will be hosting a Relive the Drama over at @dramafever by the end of the month. We will make sure links for Dramafever are posted on our tumblr page to update all our wonderful Chingus of new post.
Boys Over Flower is drama for many of us which got us into KDrama. We hope you can come and join the discussions and go down memory lane. It is the drama’s 8th anniversary and it’s time to dust off the drama - does the story hold up years later, what tropes are still being used today or have them been retired, why is this drama the gateway to KDramas and so much more.
During our Relive of Boys Over Flowers we plan to play Bingo and we want you to join in on the fun. However, we need your help. Please let us your favorite or least favorite KDrama/BOF trope. The more tropes we can collect the more Bingo cards we can create. Thanks Chingus!!
I’m the type of person that likes to post exciting news in the middle of the night (in my timezone, that is). I’ve been anxiously awaiting the moment I finally get to share this with you all and it’s here 😆😆😆
Chingus in Dramaland is initiating a rewatch of the drama that introduced many of us to the Kdrama world, Boys Over Flowers in a series we like to call Relive the Drama.
Starting the week of January 29th we will be doing a Drama Club on DramaFever, but instead of a currently airing drama we’ll be covering Boys Over Flowers. We’ll cover two episodes a week and stick to a watching schedule so you’ll be able to follow along with us and relive all the drama that makes this Kdrama a classic.
This idea was inspired in part by all the requests for and response to the Boys Over Flower memes, so thank you Chingus for your amazing support and input. ❤ We’ll hope you’ll join us on this fun trip down memory lane and if you haven’t seen the drama yet, what better time to start?
Goblin: The Lonely and Great God - Episodes 7-10 Recap: Life just got a lot more complicated
Tiara: Happy New Year Chingus!!!! With the holidays and our busy schedules, we decide to collect a bunch of Goblin episodes before talking about them. Hopefully going forward with the rest of Goblin, we will be discussing week to week.
Tiara: It’s been a few weeks since we last got together and boy there is a lot to talk about. Where should we start? The Goblin Bride’s purpose is the pull the sword - let’s start there. Eun Tak wasn’t able to pull the sword out when we last got together, however she was able to not only grab the sword but to pull it. It got me to thinking what changed for Eun Tak to be able to become the Goblin’s Bride?
Logan: What a great place to start. There definitely seemed to be a significant change in Kim Shin’s frame of mind that lead to Eun Tak being able to finally grasp the sword. You can see the look on his face as he makes his mind up about something right before he hugs her. It was a significant moment. To me, it seemed as though he had given into himself-that he was finally willing to admit to himself that he loves her.
June: I agree with you Logan! I think that was the pivotal moment in this drama where he finally knew he loved her, and thus she really became his bride and was able to grasp the sword!
Tiara: That could be a reason considering love is a theme of the drama. It seems most of our cast of characters haven’t been very good in the love department. One thing I notice, the sword didn’t have the bloody cloth the first time, but the second time it was there. I wonder if there is any significance to that cloth of dry blood.
Logan: Haha. Isn’t that the truth! Things between the Grim Reaper and Sunny are a disaster, but at the same time seems hardly irreparable-thankfully! Very observant about the blood. I didn’t notice that. I’m sure there is significance to the blood. That moment became very dangerou to Eun Tak too as the Goblin nearly killed her. Luckily his powers also allowed him to save her. But within the scope of two weeks she’s nearly died at least 3 times-possibly more. She’s like the new Jan Di (cf Boys over Flowers) Seriously, though. I’m worried one of these times the Goblin won’t get to her in time.
June: Oh I know right! I'm just like on my toes now whenever I watch this drama because she's gotten too close to getting hurt lately.
Tiara: However, we know that Subway money is going to good use. For sure, Grim Reaper and Sunny are the weirdest couple in dramaland. It’s sweet and adorable, but very odd. I guess when you’re dating the Grim Reaper it’s going to be a strange relationship. I can’t put my finger on why the first time didn’t work but the second did. It’s still driving me crazy which is how I notice the bloody cloth. It also made me look at the color. Black, Blue, Red, and White are pretty much all over the place in Goblin. Shin’s power is a blue-green color and the scarf Eun Tak wears is a bright red. This has to be the connection, right?
Logan: OMG-that Subway product placement is starting to drive me nuts. A lot of dramas have Subway spots these days, but it’s excessive in Goblin. Lol. I just have to tell myself that it’s the same as if they had a favorite Cafe they frequented. The drama is a very visual one and so I think color is made to have a big significance not only to pull us in, but I agree that there does seem to be more to it. 100 points to whoever can crack the color code. Another person for whom color is significant is god, or the woman we’ve been calling Red Granny. Red is a color that her and Eun Tak share in common. That’s probably not a coincidence either. God is always wearing all red and Eun Tak has the one very important red item. I think the writers and producers put a lot of thought into these themes.
June: Yeah the colors in this drama seem to play a bigger role than most dramas I've seen. Especially with the red color. I really commend this drama production for its’ attention to detail.
Tiara: For sure, June.It’s believe that Granny in Red is a deity know as Sam Shin who is known as the goddess of birth. It explains why she is super protective of Eun Tak. It does make me wonder what her plan is for Eun Tak. Why did she work so hard for her to live? Also, the color of blue is something Deok Hwa wears a lot. You can see him wearing the color doing his pasting by with Grandma Sam Shin in the first episode. There are theories out there that Deok Hwa is a deity himself. The deity known as Elder Wol Ha, the overseer of marriages. It kinda makes some sense in some ways why these two continue to meet up. On the other hand Deok Hwa’s blue represents Shin’s blue. It could have meaning or I could be talking about nothing.
Logan: I think I saw that theory out there too. I mean, anything’s possible in Dramaland, right? Although Duk Hwa would have to be reincarnated then since Shin has known and helped raise him since he was a child. One thing I’ve noticed that is recurring, is the innocence of children. Both Kim Shin and Red Granny both watch after and protect children from the little boy in the hospital that Granny helped to the Chairman’s secretary who Shin became the patron of - children seem to have much more good in them than adults as Shin pointed out earlier.
June: I've seen a few theories about Duk Hwa as well but it makes me wonder where it all fits in because he has been reincarnated and been with Shin for a while now. But once again anything can happen in dramaland.
Tiara: Oh Dramaland, where everyone knows one another and anything can happen. Switching back to Granny Sam Shin, she told Shin, death will continue to go after Eun Tak if she doesn’t fulfill her purpose as the Goblin’s Bride. However, isn’t she a missing soul and death plans to take her on her 29, 39, and birthdays that end in 9? The scary threat didn’t really hold weight for me after hearing from the Grim Reaper earlier. However, I’m glad Grim Reaper told Eun Tak the truth about the sword. I really love the bonding relationship between those two.
Logan: Okay, I’m sure everyone who’s ever read any of my posts or drama clubs is going to be really really surprised to hear this (I’m beings sarcastic here)-but I love the Grim Reaper. He’s my absolute favorite thing about this drama so in a sense, as I almost always do, I have second male lead syndrome. However, I absolutely don’t ship him with Eun Tak. I just think that Dong Wook really makes this drama shine with his portrayal of the reaper. His relationships with the Goblin, Eun Tak, and Sunny are all charming and hilarious in their own way. I love that he’s become really close with Eun Tak when he once tried to take her life. I also love the fact that he’s come to terms with the fact that him and Kim Shin have become close friends even though they hated each other at first. It’s just too cute.
June: I love the Grim Reaper as well! His friendship with everyone in the drama is seriously the best. It just shows how far everyone has come friendship-relationship wise in this drama. The bromance in this drama has been a gift given to us all.
Tiara: Haha!!! No I’m not surprise at all, Logan. How can you not love Grim Reaper? He’s just super adorable. He’s dead pan is cute. Dong Wook has really done something special. There are times I get Blade Man vibes from the character and that isn’t a bad thing. I whole heartly love the family unit Shin, Eun Tak, Grim Reaper, and Deok Hwa have made. The moment when her three guys were waiting for her with the cake had me in tears. It was super sweet.
Logan: Yes, that scene had me near tears too! She hasn’t had people to care for her in a long time and now she has a family. Another scene that got me right in the heart was when Eun Tak realizes the ghosts that she’s been friends with for some time is actually the ghost of her mom’s best friend from high school and she has stayed on the earth for the sole purpose of watching over her and keeping her money safe. That scene was a tear-jerker. What a powerful friendship she must have had with Eun Tak’s mother in order to do something like that and what a cool parallel that she ended up having close friendships with both girls in the course of her life and afterlife.
June: Oh my gosh, all those scenes were so emotional for me! I agree with both of you all! I feel like it's been so long that Eun Tak actually had someone to care for her and now she has it. Poor girl has really gone through a lot.
Tiara: Jung Hyun turning out to be Eun Tak’s mom’s friend was the best twist. But I’m with you, Logan. I was a bawling mess during the whole scene. Jung Hyung stayed as a ghost to look after her friend’s child because of a promise really does make her the greatest best friend ever. The fact she hide all those bankbooks for Eun Tak actually makes me giggle a bit. If only Eun Tak’s aunt knew, I would loved to have seen her face. Speaking of aunt, she’s in prison. The best form of karma I’ve seen. I enjoyed seeing her try to intimidate Secretary Kim. Haha!!! Nice try lady, but he’s way more scarier than her.
Logan: Talk about Kdrama karma in action with Eun Tak’s evil aunt. There’s nothing quite like Kdrama karma. Secretary Kim is quickly become more and more endearing to me. At first I couldn’t decide if he was evil or not, but I think he just doesn’t have a care in the world for what other people think- including the rich and powerful - and I super respect that. Ugh, but I almost forgot about the sad news we got in the form of Kim Shin’s vision of the future and the apparent death of the chairman. Why do they always have to kill the sweet good-natured characters?
June: Chairman’s death is really going to make me into a bawling mess. I already know it! I really hope that Secretary Kim doesn't turn out to be a bad guy. But I feel like someone has to be? I don't know!
Tiara: Secretary Kim also had me worried too. When he connected the dots about Shin never aging, I worried. Yet, we found out Shin has been Secretary Kim’s patron. Pretty much Shin has raised him. I’m still wondering if he is the reincarnation of Joong Won. I may be overthinking things, but the two actors look a lot alike. I’m not sure about that, June. I think the gods, time, and their situation is enough of a villain to not really need a person. As for the Chairman, I refuse to think about Grandpa’s death.
Logan: No, I’m right there with you, Tiara. Secretary Kim and Joong Won do seem a bit similar, but I’m hoping for the best. Maybe the Grim Reaper will decide to stop the Chairman’s death for some reason. His compassion seems to keep growing, after all. Speaking of the Grim Reaper, the one scene I just have to mention is the scene where he and Kim Shin are walking back from buying leeks trying to look like models and recreate the moment they saved Eun Tak from the kidnappers since she told them they looked cool. I was dying!
June: Bless whoever thought to put that scene in because it was literally pure gold!
Tiara: That’s a great way to put it. You can also add Shin to the mix too. Shin was a general who protect the people. He was given a command by the than King to protect his brother when he becomes King. He died by the command of his King (Yeo) and turned into the one thing his King feared, a god. Not just any god, but one who protects the people. It will be interesting if this holds any weight to the overall theme. The drama has finally confirmed Sunny is Shin’s sister from the past. I want more time with these two together. It was clearly obvious these two are siblings before it was outed.
June: I was glad my hunch on Sunny being the sister was correct when they confirmed it! I just want to see more of them interact though!
Logan: It’s a more realistic view of humankind, I think. Good people aren’t good all the time and bad people aren’t bad all the time truthfully. People are complicated. The scenes that take place in the Goryeo period and that tell the tale of Kim Shin, his sister-Kim Sun- and the king almost need to be their own drama. I find myself glued to the screen during any one of those flashbacks. I loved seeing that Shin and Sun really loved each other. But I especially enjoyed the romance between Sun and the king. I wanted to see so much more of it. The two have great chemistry.
Tiara: The siblings in Goryeo period just makes me sad. The relationship between Sun and the King is just heartbreaking. Sunny in present-day still has a lot of her personality from the past. Sun was bold and spoke her mind and she clearly still does this evening without knowing anything. With Sun and Shin dead, I do wonder what happen with Yeo all alone with Eunuch Won. What drove Yeo to paint Sun’s portrait over and over before his own death.
June: I'm hoping we do get to see more of what happened after their deaths and how the king ended up. I feel like there's so much stuff that can be seen with Goryeo time and present time, I hope they find time to show it.
Logan: It would be interesting to know what the king went through after their deaths. So I wasn’t sure if that’s what we were seeing when we saw a shot of Dong Wook dressed in Goryeo clothes in a historical scene. I kind of assumed he was supposed to be the king having aged and sounds like I’m not the only one who got that out of that scene.
Tiara: It could be right before his death or the years after. I get the feeling Grim Reaper will finally be learning his past life soon. I wonder how his relationship with Sunny will go. There was a Grim Reaper who run away with his former wife from his past. However, I don’t see Sunny running away with Grim Reaper no matter how cute he looks. I’m wondering if Sunny will remember the past too.
Tiara: Chingus in Dramaland has our next drama scheduled once Goblin is over. The drama we plan to cover will be “Almost Paradise”. I’ll let you all enjoy the clue. Until next time, watch more dramas.
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