#6b movement

[ohno-myfeefees]

[ohno-myfeefees]

When we talk about things that affect women, we should talk about things that affect all women. But how come when you guys say “we need to talk about things that affect women”, and we talk about things that affect groups of women like cis women or whatever, you’re like “oh, you’re trying to exclude whoever”. No! But we still need to talk about it. What’s not clicking? We still need to talk about female genital mutilation, it’s a very big privilege to be a woman in America to talk about how it’s TERFism to talk about female genital mutilation too much. Everything is not just centred around what affects white women or American women. Being a feminist means giving a fuck about women everywhere, all walks of life. It’s not just about shit that is easy to talk about, that’s fun to talk about, it’s not just cute slogans you can put on a T-shirt. It’s talking about child marriage, medical misogyny, abortion bans, sex trade, sex trafficking, all these things that are not based on how you identify as a gender.

[usagifemme]

really trying not to crash out over white western feminists who either treat 4b as a fun trendy "revenge" tactic or as an inherently evil misandrist transphobic movement. i need you all to realize that in a country where publicly supporting feminism even in the slightest manner can get you fired or harassed, with such a high level of misogyny, this movement was built off of self preservation. the majority of south korean women are not flaunting this around as some trend. it is a lifestyle change they are making for their own personal benefit and safety as a human being, and that is almost entirely spoken of privately and/or anonymously. of course there are aspects that can be criticized but im sick of westerners treating asian feminist movements as either some mystical foreign wisdom or like an uneducated naive hate group. there can be discussion and discourse about the movement, but you need to treat south korean women as people, not as a distant exotic trend to gawk at

[kittyit]

Would it not be a 4B concept to simply tirelessly block every single man who interacts with you online?

[ohno-myfeefees]

I’ll say this just once: calling women who are speaking out and radicalising against male violence ‘reactionary’ or ‘fascist’—and then making it about trans issues when no mention of trans people is even part of the conversation—comes off as both privileged and ignorant. It is literally a list of 4-6 rules depending on which you follow and either you follow the rules and be part of the movement or you don’t and you’re not part of the movement. That’s all.

Read my pinned post about what the principles of 4B, 6B, and 6B4T are. Nothing there mentions trans people in any way. In words you might understand, if some transwomen support right wing movement and totalitarian government, are we now suppose to say that all transwomen are facist as well? Stop making this about you. This movement is about women decentering men and centering themselves and fellow women. If you cannot participate in the conversation with good faith then do not participate at all.

[ohno-myfeefees]

I see people saying men are telling them 4B is just a fad and it will “disappear” after a few months once everything settles down and things get back to normal and then they’re asking how to seem serious about this or debate the men or what to say to the men.

Umm… what? Why do you need to say anything? Why do you need to prove anything? 4B and 6B is a radical total lifestyle change. You have to change your whole mentality and outlook. This isn’t something you perform for the males to see how serious you are. You are serious by simply doing it. Even when people stop talking about the movement it will always exist. There are people who have become permanently disillusioned and the movement will simply continue on quietly as more and more people disengage themselves from male expectations. So what if they don’t believe you? So what if they say this or say that? Who cares? Why do you care what they think? They are nobody and nothing, you do not need to concern yourself with them. That is the core of the movement.

It’s the same with this blog. I post informative posts on the movement for people who are just learning about it and want to educate themselves on it. But eventually everything that has to be said will be said. Everything that has to be defined will be defined. And then it will be entirely in your hands. If you are serious about it you simply need to do it. So what if they try to “test” you? These are males looking to undermine you in the only way males know how to. Do not engage. They want female attention. By not giving it to them, you are already taking the first step. And after that you just keep going.

[norton-not-an-anti-virus]

For any women looking at the radical feminist 4B or 6B4T movements and wondering how to commit, here are the tenants:

4B stands for:

1. no sex with biological men (비섹스; bisekseu)

2. no giving birth (비출산; bichulsan)

3. no dating men (비연애; biyeonae)

4. no marriage with men (비혼; bihon)

To add the tenants of 6B4T, you must also commit to:

5. no purchase of sexist products (비소비; bisobi)

6. fully supporting other single women who are practicing and committed to the movement (비돕비; bidopbi)

And fully reject:

1. strict beauty standards (탈코르셋; talkoreuset)

2. hyper-sexual depictions of women (탈오타쿠; tarotaku)

3. religion (탈종교; taljonggyo)

4. idol culture (탈아이돌; taraidol)

My wish and my hope is that many more American libfems will genuinely join us radfems in committing to the 6B4T or 4B movements.

However, please don’t just toss these terms out indiscriminately. These movements stand for very specific protest behaviors and commitments.

(And perhaps this movement is not for you, that’s okay! It’s a big commitment and perhaps you’re not ready. Radicalization is a process and not everyone is at the same place. So, no judgement!)

But please, please my libfem sisters, don’t pretend to be 4B or 6B4T without a true intention and desire to commit. It won’t help the movement, and you’ll just harm genuine efforts both locally and globally.

[ohno-myfeefees]

I often see is people complaining about gatekeeping and then just opening the floodgates until nothing resembling the original movement is left.

Let me just say that if you are a man or you have a romantic partner that is a man or you have sex with men, you already don’t “qualify” for the 4B/6B movement. It doesn’t matter how progressive of lefty or whatever you think you or your man is. Literally the principles for this movement is to not date, marry, or have sex with men. And that’s ok. You don’t have to be at the center of every movement you can simply support your sisters who do decide to join it. But we do have to gatekeep. To not do so will betray the fundamental values of this movement.

"What do I call myself then?" You can call yourself feminist. It is not a shameful or dirty thing to be feminist and support your sisters who are taking more radical steps in response to the current threat to our safety. It is not bad to be a feminist and want a better future for all women regardless of what right wingers like to tell you.