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Psycoanalyzing Sid & Nancy (pt 1/?)

Okay, to my understanding the most common assumption regarding who killed Nancy and what killed Sid is that Sid stabbed her and then accidentally overdosed on heroin.

I think it's strange that the general public pretty much outruled the possibility that Nancy took her own life. It's true that it isn't likely based on the way it happened, but based on her history I feel like it would have been brought up more as a possibility if people had understood her life away from the press. She wanted to end her life because she had been living in agony for the entirey of it, but I feel that very few people understand that.

Nancy's mother Deb mentioned her and Sid's dynamic when it came to her death- Nancy had called her before while Sid was lashing out. Based on what I know he was physically abusive to her. An assumption that I've made is that it was always drug induced and/or out of fear. Nancy was very smart, she was also manipulative. Sid was really not very bright. The reason that Nancy was with him is because she knew he would be bad for her. She craved destruction in any and every way possible because her life was hell. She had attempted suicide before Sid came into her life. Sid was clueless as to what he was getting himself into, and though he had definetly already been introduced to hard drugs by his mother (not enough people know that Nancy wasn't the first one to get him into them), he genuinely did not want to be a junkie. The two of them tried to quit multiple times.

It makes me wonder how much Sid really knew about Nancy. I'm not sure he knew what her schizophrenia (amongst possibly other mental illnesses) was like for her, and I'm not sure that he knew how much she really didn't want to live. All Sid wanted was an outlet; he was a rightfully angry kid who had experienced trauma. I think that he was desprate for someone to pay attention to him because growing up, he wasn't encouraged or supported by anyone properly. So he was the perfect canidate for both Malcom McLaren (who was the band's manager and got close with him), who turned him into his project and encouraged his self destruction for the sake of making money and popularity (long story short), and Nancy, who was looking for the quickest way to go out.

Deb said that she could picture Nancy asking Sid to kill her, which most definetly could have happened. If he did stab her, it might not have been entirely out of anger, but rather obedience and devotion. It is undoubtedly true that their relationship was toxic and neither of them were in a healthy place. Nancy's last call to her mother was after Sid had called Deb asking her for money. He got upset when she refused and lashed out, likely physically at Nancy and verbally. It was not the first time that a scene like that happened. Nancy called Deb back and admitted that Sid had beat her before (though it is difficult to differentiate between nancy's truths and lies), and that she might end their relationship and come home again.

There are immense components that could have played a role in figuring out all the details of Nancy's supposed murder and the aftermath. If she was on drugs when she died, she might have asked Sid to kill her. It might have been while he was also on drugs and was angry. It might just have been that he killed her while he was on drugs and angry, and he went too far (I assuredly believe that he wouldn't have killed her intentionally). It might even be that he fell asleep and she stabbed herself (though I do feel it would have been a more likely suicide if she had done it another way, with drugs or something related). The possibility remains that it could have been the dealer who stabbed her. It is impossible to say anything for certain. There were no witnesses, and Sid's words were pretty much just as corrupt as Nancy's. There is no way of knowing what happened as a fact in the Room 100 of the Chelsea Hotel on October 12 of 1978.