I've been reading some stuff (yes I take screenshots of some interactions, I think what others can make is very beautiful), and I've gotten to the part where @apriciticreveries & @rockwgooglyeyes have been talking about Nyx and Asa being related (with Cinna & Cas ( @lookatmysillies ) related as well).
And well, it got me thinking for Flor. Since, in all honesty her design for her stage outfit has her with her tummy out and I've added a lot of stretch marks there, while normally people would have stretch marks nearly almost everywhere? Arms, thighs and such. But I think I added too much on Flor's tummy, and so I think the only way to explain that is that maybe Flor was also bred?
I can actually see it happening, and with the song of The Court Jester "a new found memory after rest", can be about the fact that after a long while of repressing the thought/memory of ever being pregnant (she's scared of pregnancy, and all of that) . I think it would just explain some of her behavior and looks???
And I mean, I don't think it would be too far off for her to actually be bred as sad as that sounds. One of her siblings (which, all of Flor's siblings are based on my actual siblings in real life- along with her Guardian actually being inspired by my own mom), has two kids which Flor likes being around! Flor held both of them when they were born, and when she was able too. And after all of that, she's like- gotten a higher 'baby fever' even though it's weirdly mixed with the fact that she doesn't like them as well (and how she's somewhat jealous? That they can be free and innocent before it's too late).
Flor's guardian is a “““traditional””” woman if that explains it a bit. She did make comments before on how Flor was to end up in love with a man, and have kids (to which, Flor was just confused on because now she's dating THE Rosca. So like. There's that). I don't really know how to make sense of it, but I think this kinda does explain it well??? Anyways- (something for my BIG ASS POST explaining every damn character and symbolism I have for Flor. I'm done with Spaceboy's, and I'm almost done with Carlos's so take this)
*But, maybe, she can also connect with him by the fact that they would both have a biological child of theirs. Larakiraboshinogotokuamuuru for Carlos, and Lorashishiboaninisshu (Flor comes up with weird names for her kid(s),,) for Flor. I think can explain why she even has stretch marks on her stomach area! She mainly has them on her inner thighs, but it's weird that she also has them around her stomach area… and I think her being a parent would explain it well. But quite sadly <- but for this, she's a bit unaware of that. She represses A Lot, and having a child would affect her mental state so she has sought to forget (but she is a caring mom! She likes kids! One of her siblings (based on my actual siblings), has her own kids and Flor really enjoys being around them even if she's somewhat jealous of how innocent they are and such).
*But : all of this is taken from my doc, on which I'm explaining why I went with characters that make up Flor! This is a part of her connections with Carlos Marlon (Gluttony arc) from Evillious Chronicles!
I just think that this idea is actually so interesting,,, hell I've been thinking that maybe Hyuna could be one of Flor's kids but like a descendants of sorts.
Wait! Maybe!! Sebastian (Alnst OC- his og name is unknown, but he was named Sebastian by his guardian) can be one of Flor's kids, by the fact of his whole clown aesthetic which I guess can be inherited in some way. But I dunnoooo tbh.
This idea is actually just so interesting, and would kinda work well with Flor's character..... (Which, if you want an age for her when she was bred and such; probably around 13-ish? At least 15 I would think though)
Flor is just now; "despite the horrors I stay silly". In a nutshell
(Flor, Cas 🤝 Nyx: having biological children (for Cas & Nyx it's against their will, Flor semi consented to the idea but thought it was a joke). The Emperor (Cas) The King (Nyx) and The Jester (Flor)!!!!!)
Hiii gamers! As i promised yesterday, today i am here to finally do the doomsday idol cult infodump....i would like to first thank my oomfies @orangelovesyoumore and @sotogalmo for wanting to hear abt it, giggling :3
I was gonna post it directly into the post i made, but i wanted to put some tags into it since i wrote a lot and wants this to get some traction, so here we go <3
1. What the HELL is the idol doomsday cult?
The actual name for it is "Golden Flight", and it is a fictional cult that i am making right now, with my friend @chioniphilia actually making one of the people who participate in it. This cult is part of the Alien Stage universe, it started first as just the backstory of one of my ocs, but i thought it had a lot of potential, so i thought about turning it into its own thing, away from the main plot of Alien Stage (since i can't make it a completely original thing as it is really tied to the unvierse of ALSNT)
The cult is commanded by an alien that no one knows the name of, but whom is called "Father" by everyone who is a part of it, they don't make a lot of public appearances, but all the humans who are brought into the cult know about them, with them being mostly this "divine" figure that is always looming around and knowing everything they are doing. The main idea of the cult is that the universe is quickly shrinking, and that one day, there will no longer be enough space for everyone, and when this happens, aliens will first start killing their pet humans and then kill each other, however, there is a planet that will stay there until the end, and the people who live there will all live and one day live in harmony - with this including both the aliens and the humans. (i know the aliens in the alsnt universe have their own name but i forgot what it is so im just saying alien)
This harmony presented in this small group of survivors is said to be due to them all sharing "the same soul", with them all having this dream of living in a world full of peace and with no suffering in it, being seen as "divine beings" who, even if they die, will "take flight to the paradise" as they are pure.
Of course, most of these things are hidden from most people, with this community being seen as a "training place" for humans to become idols - a little like a competitor to ANAKT Garden, which i'll explain further down <3
2. Ok, if it is a cult that is all about "everyone living in harmony", why did you only say that humans partake in it?
For the people in the cult, the explanation given to the humans who are taken care of by "Father" is that they are trying to get as many humans as possible there as a way to "pay for the aliens mistakes", saying that they will help as many humans as possible survive this apocalypse since they know true pain and thus will know how to not make the same mistakes the aliens made related to how the other species are treated.
But in reality? They get humans into the cult because not only it makes no one be suspicious of them (since humans are just seen as pets, with no one really caring about their suffering or whatnot) but also because for them, it is a lot easier to convince these humans to come willingly to the cult - the situation that most of them find themselves is dire and without a lot of hope to it, so thus, "Father" knows that the promises of a new universe where they have a participation in and can leave peacefully is enough to make most of them come, or even the promise of revenge agaisnt those who wronged them.
In the end, they do have aliens in it as well, however, the human to alien ratio in the cult is very afar from one another in my head.
3. Where the part of "idol" comes from?
OK SO NOW THIS IS THE PART I LIKE THE MOST TO TALK ABOUT AND WHAT MADE ME START THIS WHOLE THING!!!
The part of "Idol" comes from the main form the cult has of putting out propaganda for it without it being obvious what they are doing: through songs, and this is done by an idol group sponsored by a corporation in the ALSNT universe called "Eden Dreams" (which is actually a shell corporation comanded by the cult), and this is where the name of the cult actually comes from, as the group is called "Golden Flight"
The group consists of 12 members in it, with each one of them having one color representing them (the colors being red, blue, cyan, green, yellow, orange, purple, pink, brown, black, white and grey) which are the only colors they can use - this is not only in their clothes, but also in their hair, eyes, makeup and so on, with most of them going through surgeries to be of the colors assigned to them. The surgeries they can go through are also to be more "marketable" to the aliens. All of the members of the group are winners of past seasons of Alien Stage.
The members of the group change over time, as every time one of the members end up dying or "disappearing", a group of people is chosen by "Father" to be trained to take the spot, which them being given placements - then, this group of people is given an intense training just like the former member did, and, when they are done, the "best one" in the group is chosen to be put in Alien Stage as their "final test" while the others stay, if this person wins, they go through the surgeries in their appearance and become the new member, if not, the next in line is sent to the next one and so it goes until one wins. The reason as to why members of the cult want to become members of this group so badly is due to the propaganda "Father" spreads, saying that all those 12 people who are in the idol group are the "purest" ones there, and they will be the ones who will take care of all the survivors when the day of the apocalypase comes. (although most members in this idol group range from the age of 15-25)
This idol group is EXTREMELY popular in the ALSNT universe, not only because of all the money the cult puts behind them, but also because the members of it are actually good at what they do, and the fact they are winners of Alien Stage make them get even more attention. Their songs normally have themes related to peace, friendship and harmony to them, spreading the ideas of the cult of "everyone having the same soul", which makes them be popular not only to aliens, but also to be seen as inspirations to other humans.
The 12 members of the cult are also the only ones who know of "Father"s true identity, as they are called their "children", and thus can interact directly with them, and the members of it call each other "brothers" and "sisters".
The training they go through is not only related to learning how to compose, sing and dance, but they are also trained to not fear death nor to have empathy towards their "enemies" (the people they go agaisnt in Alien Stage and other people who might not want to join the cult) as these people are only doing that out of "being agaisnt the universe's peace", and thus they shall be punished by dying and being sent to the limbo, to forever know they didn't take the opportunity to be in a better place. The members of the group are extremely controlled, however, they also partake in controlling the cult - since they have direct contact to "Father", they are the ones who always tell them when something happens in the cult and if one of the members is "misbehaving", which makes them be punished properly.
I don't have all members of it planned, having only made the orange one and with my friend making the red one...........So if anyone wants to make one idol for it hit me up!! ^-^
4 - How does the cult get new members in it?
1 - One of the ways they find new members (and which is also easier) is to go to the slums and other places where humans live in precary situations. When they go to these areas, the members (who are always groups of humans) take care of the people living there, giving them food, medicine and other things that they normally have trouble finding, and, after some days, when they are leaving, they ask these people to come alongside them, promising all these things and more if they go, and, as these humans do not have owners, no one really notices that they have went there.
2 - Fan meetings. One of the things the idol group does is make fan meetings, with them normally doing some for only human pets as well, in these meetings, the members analyze which pet humans seem to not have stable homes or be victims of bad owners. When this happens, they find a way to discover where this human lives, and they take them forcefully to the "paradise" without their owner knowing where they went, this or they manipulate and help this human in "getting rid" of their owner, helping them "find somewhere to hide" afterwards.
3 - The Eden Dreams program. It is a "program" made by the shell corporation mentioned before. Basically, as all members of Golden Flight are winners of Alien Stage, the cult will offer this program where they will train pet humans to become "winners" as well. If an alien pays for it, the human is taken into the cult for training (all the things an idol needs to know + the brainwashing), where they will go through it for years without any contact with their owner (as they say this will "distract them") and, when the cult deems the human as "worthy", they are sent to ALSNT - if this human dies, their owner is returned 60% of the money they invested in the program, but if the human wins, they are sent back to their owner, with the cult receiving 30% of any money the owner gets from the human's success. Also sometimes they do the same as the second way and make the human "disappear" to get them back into the cult but ykyk.
I didn't knew how to break my other thoughts from the actual infodump so im using this image..........I have some things here and there made for the cult as well but idk how to organize them here, so i'm here just to say: if you guys are interested in this idea and wanna know more about it, please send questions in my inbox or in my dms, PLEASE I LOVE TALKING ABT THIS I GEN WANT TO MAKE AN ASKBLOG FOR THE IDOL GROUP AUEUEEUEUEUE
Also again if anyone wants to make an oc for the cult feel free to do so to..................Again thank you all for reading this love yall so much <3
TW: Abuse, mentions of going long periods without eating, mentions of ED, blood, description of wounds, claustrophobia, insects
Overall just. Neli not having a good time.
Again, forgive me for any mistakes - english is not my first language and i am not proofreading this.
"...You know Neli, i found a new book some days ago...It was written on Earth."
"Really?"
As soon as she heard that, the kid's eyes sparkled - Sapphie always had a way with finding things, no matter how impossible it seemed, she was always the one to have it.
"Do you still have it?"
"I sure have, but you have to promise me to not tell Father."
"I won't!"
A smile appeared on the older woman's face, as she soon went to take a look at the pile of random junk in her room - it was a bit weird for Neli to see that, their rooms were already small, and Sapphie kept pilling them up with a bunch of things that seemed to have no purpose. She always said it was to preserve memories, but Neli didn't knew if she believed so fully.
"Here, found it."
She finally could hear Sapphie approaching again, the bandages in her eyes making it impossible for her to see how close the other woman was. The tattoos made in her eyes still hurt a lot, and Neli knew that even if she wanted, taking the bandages out would make the wounds worse.
"Do you want me to read that for you? It's a bit scary."
"I'm not a kid anymore, Sapphie, i'm 14! I can handle it!"
"Alright Miss Winner-...No need to get that angry with me."
Sapphie chuckled, knowing deep down Neli wasn't actually angry.
...
"So, who brought this here?"
Father's voice echoed in the room, at the table right in front of the twelve of them, that damn book - it had been what? One, two months since Sapphie showed it to her? Why was it a problem now?
Neli looked at Sapphie for a moment, she seemed nervous, although trying to look normal...Of course she would try so, everyone knew that one of the main rules of Eden Dreams was to not bring anything from the outside, especially something written by humans that weren't related to the school, and that punishment awaitened for whoever was found guilty of that.
Everyone kept quiet, not even looking at each other's eyes. It was as if everyone in there was too afraid of speaking and accidentaly incriminating themselves or someone close, and they also knew the main rule between them: snitches get stitches, everyone followed that rule...
...Almost everyone.
Like as if finally realizing something, Neli looked at Ylva, who, despite trying to maintain a serious face had a small grin at the corner of her mouth...Could it be? Had she been the one to tell Father about the book? No, it couldn't, she would never...
"...This was a test, and you all failed."
Father's voice took the girl out of her thoughts, making her look back at him, he seemed to have a small smile on his face again.
"I already know who brought this here...Sapphie, please follow me outside after everyone left...And thank you for telling me about that, Ylva."
Her eyes widened, she looked at Sapphie, who seemed to barely control her nervouness now. For a moment, Neli thought about doing something, but-
"W-Wait! SAPPHIE DIDN'T BRING IT HERE, I DID!"
Mirai's voice suddenly echoed in the room - she wasn't one to speak unless absolutely necessary, but to hear Father talking about taking her sister outside, to the hole of all places...It was too much, even for her.
"I-I found it in my last photoshoot and forgot it in Sapphie's room! She didn't e-even knew about that!"
For a moment, Neli thought she saw a semblant of surprise in Father's facade - before his normal smile finally came back...God, at times like these, it never meant something good.
"...Is that so? But still, your sister didn't take care of her room, and let it stay there for so long...You both go with me, then."
...
In all those years, Neli never knew what exactly was so scary about the hole. She had heard about him, had heard some snippets of conversation of the other girl's that involve it - but never enough for her to know what it was all about.
It was just a hole, and you just had to be good and not cause trouble for it to not be a problem, right? So why...
"Neli, care to explain to me what that is?"
"LIMITED EDITION! EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH NADOHAN - HOW LONG WILL THEIR LIGHT LAST?"
"LIMITED EDITION! AN EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH DAIAN - ROUND 1 FOR THE ROOKIE"
...Why were these magazines there? Magazines from the outside...That Neli didn't brought there.
Neli froze in place at Father's accusatory gaze, her breathing quickening as words got stuck in her throat - it was like for once, her voice box wasn't working anymore, although it had never failed before...Just what was this? What was this magazine?
Of course, she had talked with Nad and Daian before, they were her friends - at least she wanted them to be - but, there couldn't...There was no way. She didn't do it, she would never, Neli was never gonna bring something from the outside to inside her home, and she wanted to believe that Father knew so too - but his dissapointed expression showed it all - Father didn't actually care about what Neli said, because she was already guilty in his mind.
"I didn't bring it here! It wasn't me! I don't know how this got into my room!"
The words finally came out, with Neli talking even louder than normal, the desperation clear in her voice. She had ALWAYS been a good pet, a good human, a person who followed and that would have never betrayed the cult like that, no, she wasn't like that!
"Please Father, you have to believe me! I wouldn't do that, please, i-...Just hear me! I promise i-..."
The loud sound of the slap echoed through the room, followed by the burning sensation on her cheek. For a moment, Neli had to hold onto the table as to not fall back - but it wasn't necessary, as Father soon held her by her hair, making her look back at him.
"...You disappoint me so much, Neli."
...Disappointment...The last thing Neli wanted to be called...And there he was, calling her that for something that she hadn't done. This was what made her completely shut up - not the way her cheeks were still burning with pain, nor how he was now dragging her outside, and not even when she was thrown into that place - that damn hole.
...When you were thrown there, it seemed a lot deeper than from the outside, how deep did Father said it was? Five meters deep? She never knew how much five meters was, but, as her body finally hit the solid ground and she felt something break, Neli knew - five meters was way too much.
"...You are very important to me, Neli, so stay there for two weeks and think about what you did, right?"
...Two weeks? She couldn't stay there for two weeks! Neli couldn't move her arm, and the pain was excruciating, worse than anything, far worse than anything she had ever felt. She tried saying something, to scream apologies and to ask Father to take her out of there, even if it was only to check on her arm - but her voice box had broke from the impact, and even in the pitch black space, she could feel its small pieces in her legs, most probably giving her more injuries to take care when she finally got out of there.
The hole was tight, barely spacious enough for her to sit down - for sure Sapphie had a way worse time in here than her, considering how she was way taller than her. Neli could feel small insects in her legs, and some type of liquid on her skin...Was it rain water? Maybe her own blood? Again, it wasn't like she could check, and moving around there was way too hard, and she couldn't risk accidentaly getting into a position inside there she couldn't escape.
...Just two weeks, and it would all be fine.
...
"Neli? What happened? I thought you weren't gonna be scared."
Sapphie said, followed by a small laugh as she noticed Neli shuddering.
"...I'm not scared! It's just, this book-...It's worse than i thought...What was the name again?..."
"Dracula."
"Right! It's just...The idea of some creature being so happy with people suffering and from drinking their blood..."
"It's hard to think about, right?"
"It is! Why would someone think about that? Maybe...What if Dracula actually existed on Earth?"
Sapphie stopped, as if Neli actually said something to be thought about - they didn't had a lot of information about Earth before it was destroyed, so...
"...Maybe, but even if they did, the one in the book got killed at the end."
"...We didn't finish the book yet, Sapphie! Ugh, why did you spoil it already?"
...
It had already been five days - or that was what Neli thought at least. Her stomatch had stopped making sounds a long time ago, and the way light almost didn't come inside the hole made it hard to know what time of the day it was. Her dizziness made it hard for her to even focus on the pain on any part of her body - she could feel something crawling inside of one of the cuts in her leg, but it was hard taking it out in that tight space.
Luckily, it had rained yesterday, which gave some water for Neli to drink - of course, most of it had fallen with dirt in it, but it was better than nothing, and she was grateful that god had taken such pity in her to let her have some.
...Were the others worried about her? Father had mentioned before about a new collab between her and Daian, it should happen in five days, right? Or was it later? She couldn't really remember...Father most probably had cancelled it, or set another one of the girls to do the collab instead of her...Would Daian be mad at her for that? What would she tell him when she was finally out of punishment again?
It wasn't like Neli could tell him about that, no, it would be way too humiliating, it would make her seen more like an animal than anything, Neli could already hear what Daian would tell her: how she was dumb, ask her why she couldn't just obey Father like a good pet, why did she had to take these magazines there, and how she knew about the consequences...Even if she hadn't done that in the first place.
...
"Can i tell you a secret?"
"...Sure, what is it?"
Neli looked around for a second, as if making sure that both her and Nad were alone there, until she finally turned back to her friend.
"...Did you knew we had bloodsuckers on Earth?"
Nad raised an eyebrow, as if questioning if Neli was just sprouting some nonsense that her owner had told her or if she was joking...But the light in her eyes made Nad hesitate for a second.
"How are you so sure of that?"
Neli was waiting for her to ask that - finally, it would be her showing something new to Nad, not the opposite!
"I read in a book, Sapphie showed me that...A bloodsucker is a creature that poses as a human and that looks like one, but that feeds on human's blood and suffering...For what Sapphie told me, they look so much like humans to attract their prey and make them feel safe! Pretty cool, right?"
...Nad couldn't do anything but nod, despite the words being stuck in their throat.
"That's cool, Neli"
...
It had been already 10 days. Just 4 more and she would finally go back up. Most of her body had already gone numb from both pain and tiredness. It was hard to sleep in that place, a mix between the insects, how cold it was, and how much pain she was feeling, even with it so dumb at that point.
"Neli?"
For a moment, She thought she had heard things...But no. Using all her strength to look up, Neli could see the sillouette - Miss Amber...What was she doing there?
Neli tried to speak again, before being reminded of the broken voice box by the pain in her neck...Damn cut, had it gotten infected once again? Most probably. But still, even as the girl couldn't even answer the woman, it was as if Amber was just checking if she was awake.
"...I brought you something, i'm sorry i couldn't come earlier."
A pause.
"...You know how Father is when he is angry, he made sure to always keep a look nearby, and it's harder with Ylva around this place so much...Thankfully Father and her went to do that collab-"
...A collab? The one Neli was gonna do on that same day? Why had Ylva been chosen, out of everyone else? Her and Daian didn't had anything in common, of course, it could be a huge boost on her career, but-...
...Wait a second, Ylva...Ylva...Wasn't she in her room just some days ago before Father saw these magazines? Yes, she was...Wasn't she? Neli was sure of that, she could remember asking Ylva what she was doing there, how the other girl seemed to be grinning so much for no reason...Could it be, no-...But...That smile...
...It was the same smile she had when Sapphie was sent to the hole years ago.
"...I managed to get some food for you, it's not a lot, but i hope it helps-..."
Her focus finally went back to Amber as she felt something soft falling to her side, with Neli soon going to hold it with her good arm - bread, a bit stale and now dirty, but it was actual food.
...And Neli ate it as fast as she could, as if it was some delicious feast, just the smell of it making droll escape her mouth, tears escaping her eyes with how thankful she felt from this bit of kindness coming from the older woman.
...
"Neli, are you ok?"
As Vant asked her that, Neli couldn't help but look confused - that came a bit out of nowhere.
"Of course i am, Vant! Why wouldn't i be?"
"It's just that-..."
Vant paused, as if thinking about what she was going to ask, not wanting to be indelicate.
"You seem a bit...Weak."
Neli paused, well, she wasn't the first person to ask her that...Others frequently asked her the same, especially when she was fasting, but this was necessary! Oh, if Vant knew how much she had eaten days prior...
"...It's ok Vant, i'm gonna be fine! I've just been practicing a lot, so i look tired, haha!"
That same excuse Father had teached her to tell, one of the many, anything to not tell anyone directly how hungry she was, or how long it had been since she last ate - it was as Father said: some informations are confidential. And, even if Neli couldn't tell how much of that Vant believed, she would still try.
"And also, i'm already used to doing that, so i'm not feeling that weak!"
...
Holding onto the rope after those two weeks, Neli could barely have enough strength for that as she was pulled back from the hole. Finally landing outside, she grasped onto the grass, even as some ants crawled her face and how the grass itself tickled her face - she was finally out of that hole, she...She was free, she was...
"...Heavens, Neli, you look terrible...Poor thing..."
Father's voice echoed as he kneeled besides her, his hands went to touch her mattered hair, covered in dirt and only god knows why else - he cleaned it up afterwards. His voice was conforting, it always was, and it helped her focus, even as her mind told her to rest.
"...Please don't make me do that again, Neli...Do you know how much i suffer seeing you like that?...Seeing so dirty, wounded, so...So...Impure."
...Ah, she...Had made Father suffer, right?...Yes. It was her fault, this was all because of her. Even if Ylva had brought the magazines there, Neli hadn't been careful enough to lock her door, or to take a look around to find these before Father found them, she hadn't been careful, she had made so many mistakes, and this was her punishment - a punishment Father had to make her take...God, she was so selfish, to think about how much she was hurting when Father probably was feeling worse...
...The rest of that day was fuzzy - not only that day, but the entire weeks following it, spent in that infirmary, waiting for her wounds to get desinfected, for her broken bones to heal...
...Neli just hoped she didn't made the same mistake again, and that she didn't make anyone else suffer because of her stupidness.
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Tags: @alien-til-i-stage for Nad mention, @apple8ees for Daian mention, @ivanttakethis for Vant mention
Also for my american friends, 5 meters = 16.5ft more or less
