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#WHAT ARE WE DOIING #I hate when things change #and without WARNING #oh it genuinely icks me out I can’t touch it #hawkzeyes

Just to be clear on something that's been bothering me for awhile, if you want to play the "doomsday would've killed a lot of people if you considered it semi-realistic" card, then you have to be willing to also accept, that by this logic, c!Wilbur killed way more civilians then c!Techno + c!Dream + c!Phil ever could've, under far less morally justifiable circumstances.

In fact, in any kind of realistic setting, while c!Wilbur would've almost certainly have murdered thousands upon thousands of people, all caught unaware of the TNT he'd planted, there's a very good chance that the Doomsday trio wouldn't have killed anyone at all.

Remember, the Doomsday trio gave L'Manburg a full day to leave or prepare for a fight. IRL to minecraft time, 24 hours translates to nearly two and half months. And that was after the entire government would not stop failing to commit war crimes.

Dream literally had time to build an entire obsidian grid over their city. Anyone living there had ample time, warning, and capacity to leave. The entire rest of the world was safe, it was just like 3 chunks of Constant Failed Extrajudicial Killings that they would've needed to move out from. People had time to move their pets and precious items out, and frankly if they'd felt like it, people could literally pack up their entire homes and move like a mile away and be totally fine.

This was all after the city already got blown up once, and as reflected in the build up, a lot of people had become disillusioned with the fact that L'Manburg was a constant source of conflict. Lots of people would've left before any of this even started. c!HBomb was so done with it he was offering Techno extra TNT. Then with the added threat of the entire place being leveled, and lots of time to go literally anywhere else on the server, the odds of people not intending to fight being left are pretty low. The people who did fight lost, but they all survived according the canon.

c!Wilbur, by contrast, blew up an entire city with no prior warnings and no significant time for evacuation. If we assume any kind of actual city-state population for L'Manburg, then Wilbur killed several thousand people at least. Average people with no forewarning. Toddlers. Parents. People walking to work. Wilbur planned for people to die. Openly.

Anyone is free to do what they want with their own AUs, but let's be clear when discussing the Doomsday trio's actions in canon, even if you take L'Manburg as having a semi-realistic city state population, that still doesn't mean that they killed anyone during Doomsday, and if you're going to play that game, you have to acknowledge that c!Wilbur would've killed way more people. That's just the reality of the canon facts we've been presented with.