#anti lisa

[nancylou444]

Cindy was a guest on the spn then and now podcast, asserting that Dean was Ben's father despite Eric and Jensen's debunking of that claim.

Not only their debunking of it, but it's right there in the canon of the show:

Can't get any more clearer than that.

She needs to shut up.

[ghost-go-roasty-mctoasty]

So its fine for Dean to be with a girl if he knows that his brother is in hell, suffering eternal torment. But it's not fine for Sam to be with a girl if he thinks that dean is dead and is at peace in heaven, not suffering in eternal torment like he did. ok.

[nixiefae]

Saw a take on twitter that someone wanted Dean with Lisa in the end because he really really loved her...

no honey no

I actually liked Lisa and Ben but Dean was with them because Sam wanted him to be. I’m not saying he didn’t care about them because he did A TON but Dean chose Sam over and over and over and in heaven didn’t wanna see anyone ANYONE he just wanted to wait for his brother. 

[wincestshippingtrash2]

Bryan Adams - Run To You (Official Music Video)

I can’t help it, this song makes me think about how Dean ran right back to Sam and away from the lie he was living with Lisa.

(I hate Lisa.)

[lest-we-be-liars]

Husband and I discussing the end:

H: You know Cas is gonna die, right?

M: I have already made peace with it, yes.

H:😦 Really?!

Me: I went through the 5 stages of grief and I have landed on acceptance.

H: wow...I'm really proud of...

M: though, when it happens i guaran-damn-tee it's gonna be worse than The Doctor leaving Rose on that beach.

H:*who I met 5 years after that episode and still has to hear me rage about it from time to time* yeah, that sounds about right. What about Sam?

M: What about Sam?

H: how do you think things will go for him?

M: I don't know...I just want him to be happy. They just need to give him peace. Maybe a woman*Eileen*who doesn't die. That would be nice.

H: And Dean?

M: .....don't....

H: I think they'll bring Lisa back.

M: F*CK LISA!

H: You just want him to end up with.....

M: No! This isn't even about that! If they want to put him in a relationship that's fine, as long as it isn't rushed or forced and feels organic, whatever, I dont care. But. NOT. LISA!

H: what is your problem with Lisa? If it's not because she stands in the way of your ridiculous....

M: She's a BAD MOM!!! It has nothing to do with what I believe in regards to Dean's feelings! She let a known killer move into her house with her CHILD! They had ONE weekend together! He helped save her kid ( which I'm still not entirely sure isn't Dean's, which btw makes her a dirty liar too) other than that they had nothing! He went to her because Sam told him to. That's it! His relationship with Cassie was believable and I felt their connection. With Lisa, no just, no. I get that she was being comforting and trying to help him through his trauma but I'm sorry, MY KID would come before a practical stranger, that might possibly be my baby daddy, who is a KNOWN KILLER and has obviously been through serious trauma and as a result would have serious PTSD. I would help them in every way that I could but I sure as hell wouldn't move them into my house with MY CHILD. Then....THEN she acts all shocked when that backfires on her "Oh, he's uprooting our lives and keeping us locked up like caged animals!" Yeah, no shit hunny! He has a dangerous life and things will come after him! How could this have been avoided? Humm? NOT MOVING HIM IN WITH YOU AND YOUR KID! "Oh, a dangerous monster hunter got turned into a vampire and almost killed my kid!" Well, gee...who's fault is that for keeping him in your life? "Oh, I got kidnapped and possessed by a demon because I chose to put my wants infront of my child's safety!" I love Dean, I do, but no amount of awesome sex is worth putting my child at risk! She doesn't get to put them at risk and then act all shocked pikachu face when things blow up in her face! Having Cas erase their memories of Dean was the best decision for Ben and they need to leave it at that!

H: ....

M: .....

H: .....so you know they're probably gonna bring Lisa back, right?

M: I hate you....

[pinkwatchblueshoes]

No one cares what Lisa wants!

No one cares about Lisa. Luke doesn’t care if Lisa wants a party. Luke and Lisa are the most lack luster, forced storyline. Throw her a going away party.

And do you see that body language between Penelope and Luke? She’s pretty comfortable on his desk.

Gah how cute would it be if Penelope was helping JUST Luke throw a housewarming party for the team?! If they have her help both of them with a party in this episode, I’m going to be up tonight writing my own version.

[bestiesandagents]

Crowley just kidnapped Lisa and Ben. Clearly he's jealous. Or he hates the heterosexual subplots as much as the fans do lol. Dean: Crowley what the fuck are you doing? Crowley: Getting rid of the heterosexual subplot.

“Honestly, squirrel, you don’t even love her - you’re just in love with the idea of having a family. I can provide that, too.”

Cue Crowley and Dean raising Gavin and Ben together.

Honestly, the first time around, I loved the Lisa and Ben story line. The second time around, though; I realized I only liked it for Ben - Dean and Lisa weren’t awful together, but they didn’t have that great of chemistry, in my opinion. The only reason they made sense to me is because Dean was such a great father to Ben, and I still stand by that he was Dean’s son. I think she was very kind for taking Dean in and for trying to work things out with him when Sam came back, but she was never able to really understand him. Not like Crowley, who is able to see even the parts of Dean that he tries to hide. He gets him in a way I’m not even sure Sam does half the time.

[lovethediseasedkillerpuppy]

I hated the Lisa and Ben story line.

Can I say I agree & disagree on this one? Well, I’m gonna. Part of me wants nothing more than for Dean to get what he wanted, a family & normal life. But fuck, nobody thought that shit would last so it’s just another damn thing Dean has lost in his life & that sucks. Also, I got a few beefs with Lisa so my Dean deserves much better than her.