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I actually drew an anti narinder poster ages ago and had it on my wall but it fell off and I have no idea where it went #sad
HAVING A HANDMADE ANTI-NARINDER POSTER ON YOUR WALL IS KING SHIT
If you ever replace it, please take a picture of it bc thats gas
Calling narilamb white bread understates the effort that goes into making bread!! (I'm being silly here nobody take me too seriously please)
that is a good point and I'll concede that even white bread has its time and place! but I just don't want to think about unseasoned boiled chicken even in an abstract sense.
Now Nyquil-chicken... maybe that has legs. After all, it's:
unhealthy (and not in the fun way)
will put you to sleep
horrible to behold
should never exist under normal circumstances
Just like Narilamb!
yo! found your blog while looking in the GoatLamb tag and really like your pinned post on why you don't like the death cat (and i personally think he should've been a jackal)! coming from a Narinder selfshipper (mainly because of his aesthetic and sound design/voice), I have to agree that he is just a stale piece of white bread and seeing the amount of lovey-dovey or lust-based jokes and art makes me more uninterested in the ship and only finding it interesting when people make them actually complicated. I got two AUs where not only the Bishops are not spared, but Narinder isn't spared because yeah, it feels so weird that this fandom just acts as if these gods didn't cause the lore of the game and woobifies the hell out of them.
it's nice finding a safe space to say that as much as i love that cat, his character is paler than printer paper and I hate him so.
your mind intrigues me, people are so full of complexities...
I appreciate that perspective tho fr, and its not like he doesnt have any potential at all- he's just so misused/underutilized that he becomes a body pillow of a character. I would almost accuse him of being a 'tumblr sexyman' plant but I really don't think it was intentional. If anything, I'd call him a tiktok sexyman because of his thin characterization lol.
I do like seeing Lamb and Narinder be embroiled in mutual hatred! Making them resolve those problems is ruining perfectly good rage and hurt and pain!!! Akin to spitting in ambrosia, all for so-called 'enemies-to-lovers'.... blech
Newcomer anon again from some days ago (I promise I won’t spam your inbox this is the only other thing I wanted to say lol)
I find it kind of funny that I actually used to ship narilamb but then I got into some more unpopular Lamb ships and went actually no I think this is better. Guy who has only ever eaten white bread realises there is other food out there /j
Idk I don’t really have any particular gripes with nrlmb or anything, it’s just so prevalent (and most content of it kind of features the same dynamic between the two) that it got boring for me eventually. There’re other characters and potential ship dynamics that are more under-explored (and to me more interesting than default narilamb) and I enjoy thinking about those more. Everything about nrlmb has already been considered but I am out here pioneering new ground with my rarepairs /j
Hell, there is potential for other non-romantic dynamics between the Lamb and Nari that are under-explored!! I want to see more of that too!! Here I was gonna share my own version of their dynamic but the ask got way too long so I think I’ll just end it here
It’s always good to hear from someone who used to ship them! I genuinely appreciate the perspective they can bring to me so I loved reading this! I’m always gonna be a huge goatlamb fan bc I’ve never not played this game on co-op mode with my partner (soon to be fiancé ♡) and now it just feels so unnatural to play it alone.
(I like to imagine that’s how Goat would feel about the whole thing. What’s the point of having power and leading my own cult alone when my divine counterpart isn’t even there??)
I also liked Narinder as he was, before he was a follower, in the same way that I enjoy a good Disney villain and I love to hate him so I just can’t really ship him with anyone except like the concept of villainy lol.
On the other hand, I totally see where Narilamb holds a kind of general appeal to people and, therefore, why the devs push it the front of their marketing. It’s annoying but when you’re a small game dev company you have to capitalize on your strongest betting horse.
My issue is that it’s too general- the exact kind of Trojan horse that makes money and gets attention. Their marketing strategy has consistently leaned on cheekily using his image and- while I’ve seen it work and can’t blame them- it’s so obviously a play for online attention and it gets old.
I also tire easily of the “sunshine x grumpy” dynamic. While I think it can be charming in theory, in execution it often doesn’t let characters grow out of the neat boxes it places them into. The “sunshine” character is doomed to be reduced down to a useless ditz (notice how often this role is filled by a woman and you’ll have all new reasons to be annoyed) and the grumpy character’s ability to be autonomous and draw boundaries is deliberately withheld from them in the name of “taming the shrew”- so to speak (god forbid the grumpy character be a man of color, a demographic that already has to be constantly aware of how ‘approachable’ they must appear to others for fear of punishment).
Putting the Lamb and Narinder into these roles is tantamount to completely defanging them:
The Lamb can no longer be a deceptively cute warlord and iron-fisted cult leader with vengeance in their heart who must choose between completely destroying their followers’ sense of individuality and independence the way the other gods seem to be driven to do at some point or another or obeying some moral principles no matter what- even if that means creating a mere illusion of freedom that gives both the Lamb and the followers a sort of tenuous peace.
Narinder can no longer be a person forever marked with the selfishness and evil he fell into- even if he once had selfless reasons. He was a god of death driven insane by an isolating and cruel imprisonment. Treating him as someone who’s bad attitude simply needs to be curbed misses the point: that he had been broken into a self-serving and violent coward by the treacherous designs set against him- that he is the exact person the Lamb risks becoming for every selfish choice they make in running their cult. Even if he had been kind in the past, he grew to fully believe that the mortals under his control were tools for his use and that their purpose was to act as such.
The Lamb and Narinder are foils, yes, but not in a kind or redemptive way in which they might learn how to be better from the other. Narinders existence serves as a warning to the player of what can happen if we treat the position of power over others as the natural state of things.
And I, for one, find it a little annoying when that dire warning is constantly being dressed up in a maid outfit and his dick and balls are used to sell game copies and merch.
Also we need more explorations of the other characters in the game!!! I think the devs did a great job with the other bishops and with purgatory and Woolhaven is another sign that they know what they’re doing with their story so I’m hoping we will see more relationship dynamics being explored and I for one would love to see more texture to Lamb’s relationship to Narinder. Even if they want to keep pushing Narilamb I’d honestly rather they use that opportunity to make him a character worth caring about!! I’d eat (some of) my words if they would just give me a good reason to like him. That apology he gave was written like shit and was all over the place in terms of characterization so he’s falling way behind the rest of the cast in terms of strong character writing!!! Pleeeeease pray we get something good in the future that makes him less of a useless dish rag.
In the meantime I’m open to other kinds of relationships those two might have! If you have the time and energy and want to share I’d be open to hearing about your (and other peoples) ideas for that!
ngl i was expecting woolhaven to make the fandom expand more outside of narilamb but for the most part it seems mostly the same? not entirely bc i do see woolhaven content but i was expecting a little more yknow? esp with all the characters that were introduced
( btw whos ur fave woolhaven lamb? mine is Temi )
temi scares me a little lol but I’m fascinated by her story, especially given her relationship to the games weapon masters (one that, if I recall correctly) leads back to Chemach- a very odd character to place in a mentor role.
I find myself the most interested in Zawa, which is a little bit hard considering we know so little about “The Pretender”. They seem to have a habit of compulsive or reflexive lying- or at least, that’s how I read some of their lines. In my head they weren’t born a lamb but were welcomed into Woolhaven, despite the dangers that becoming a lamb would (eventually?) present. After all, some of the ghosts in Woolhaven resemble creatures that aren’t sheep. Koka has all kinds of crazy horns that resemble those of a four-horned antelope.
Therefore, I like to believe that the “lambs” of Woolhaven are more just a collection of cervids and other herd animals. It wouldn’t be totally out of their character to welcome in something else. Perhaps Zawa is a moth by birth and the mask represents something of an internal crisis?
My interpretation of Zawa’s fate is that they were very loyal to Yngya in life (they were, after all, buried as a disciple and one of the participants in her ritual) but, at the last second, tried to plead to the bishops for their life by arguing that they were not a lamb. It would be a fair reaction in the face of certain death and maybe they thought it would be for the best but the guilt made them a self-defacing compulsive liar in the afterlife. That gives a whole new meaning to the epitaph over their grave: forgiveness and acceptance in spite of (what Zawa thinks of as) a moment of cowardice. Hence, the mask of another animal; it’s an attempt to distance themselves and even punish themselves by rejecting that compassion.
Like I said before I just think the shipping crowd can’t have much to say about Woolhaven- it’s not really the kind of fuel that shipping content can run on given its heavy emphasis on world-building, internal conflicts, generational trauma, and healing. It’s great stuff but just not the kind that lends itself to shipping content.
I mean the Narilamb crowd alone has a huge new obstacle to overcome if they want to make Narilamb content set during or after the update. When I put myself in their shoes I have to deal with the fact that I want to ship these characters together but the events of Woolhaven would do more to drive them apart than anything. If Narinder wants to provide comfort to the Lamb, I would have to deal with the fact that this whole thing makes him look even guiltier, if I want him to be helpful to the Lamb during this ordeal then I have to get around the fact that Woolhaven’s story is about the Lamb’s internal journey to heal and discover their heritage. It’s like how in Frozen 2 Kristoph is like… there… but the story has so little to do with him that his role is laughably small. I wouldn’t know what to do with him- especially with the extra blow to his dignity: not even knowing that Yngya had a trap lying in wait for him. Lollllll
Narinder and the Bishops are irrelevant to this whole arc and I found it a refreshing break. No hate to the other bishops but it’s good to see something totally brand new.
It’s a shame that so much fandom content is based on shipping but I think that the new update has drawn in fanwork of other kinds- explorations of character and themes, writings on how the story develops the game’s world, interpretations on how the Lamb will choose to deal with this new information, etc. Marchosias’ presence alone raises really cool issues and his role as a deuteragonist who challenges us only for him to fall into the same hypocrisy as he fights against- but ultimately takes on- the role of godhood that he hated so much!! So awesome. These feel exactly like the kinds of conflicts the game has always loved asking and playing with.
You may not recognize all that activity immediately since it doesn’t have the same speed and output that shipping stuff does- but I think the woolhaven fanwork has been really thoughtful and interesting. Quantity does not equal quality, after all. If that were true then all of that shipping content would be amazing… which we know is uhh not quite true lol
yknow i thought woolhaven would be the thing to kinda diversify the fandom in terms of getting more content that isnt narilamb but it doesnt seem to the case outside of ynyga content and the occassional woolhaven lamb content its still been relatively the sameish which is kind of a bummer
I think fandom content is going to be inherently unreflective of an update like woolhaven’s. Not because it’s a bad update (it was great!) and not necessarily because people can’t or don’t make content based on it (I’ve seen some, though not much in great depth) it’s just that I think woolhaven expanded on the games lore and emotional themes in a way that’s not gonna appeal to those people that are really into just the shipping stuff. Especially if they’re into narilamb! My god this update did not help Narinder to look any better than before-his plan is even worse now that we know, in hindsight, that he would have essentially doomed the world to rot. I’m not surprised those people are electing to simply Not Talk About It. lol. I wouldn’t take this as a big loss, we just need to wait longer for people to 1) play the update and 2) reflect on the story so far, which they don’t have a lot of incentive to yet- unless the devs make it clear that there will be more story updates in the future.
Found this blog just recently and it’s very entertaining to me as someone who’s grown pretty tired of narilamb lately but doesn’t wanna be a vocal hater about it. Thank you user numberonenarinderhater
By the way have you seen the Valentine’s Day Narinder youtooz figure I think we gotta blow him up
Well I have now…. This is honestly more depressing than anything else like yikes. I’m glad I changed shithead (Narinder) out of the maid outfit and into the poop costume in our game bc ewwwww
Alternate names for Narinder:
The One Who Whines
The One Who Wastes My Time
The One Who Will Never Take Accountability For Any Wrongdoing
ANYWAY I HAD A NAME IDEA FOR IF MARMAR WAS TOWW… The One Who Wails, like some fucked up siren song that makes people want to jump off their boats and drown.
THE ONE WHO WAILS LMAOOO
that girl does indeed have pipes, every time I see her in the cult she’s always startling me with her weird talking sound effect. I’m always like “who is window washing??” And then it’ll be her
Also literally. Dodging accountability like it’s a sport. I’m fond of The One Who Whines personally thank you for these suggestions. I might just have to make that my blog title
