#anti-marvel fandom

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It’s always really telling when I see Marvel/MCU fans try to bring about a resolution to the fandom war with DC/DCEU fans and their resolution is that DC/WB and their fans concede that Marvel has “won”.

Even leaving aside how that’s not an actual resolution to anything and the fact that it’s not even close to being practical, it’s amazing to see how they imagine themselves, as if they haven’t spent the last five years being obnoxious and insufferable pricks who wouldn’t shut up about every perceived “victory” the MCU has had. Is anyone honestly supposed to imagine that they would suddenly start showing a sense of honorable sportsmanship they haven’t in the last half decade? 

It’s also fucking interesting how their idea of a perfect resolution doesn’t involve them having to change any aspect of their behavior or trying to do better in co-existing with others. No, they think that things would be perfect if the people on the other side would just go away and not raise any objections. 

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*sees Wonder Woman being shipped with Captain America*

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Seeing MCU fans use the Captain Marvel trailer as a weapon against Wonder Woman and DC:

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It’s astonishing to me just how insecure some MCU fans are.

It’s never enough for them to have a great film or a trailer for an upcoming one. They always, ALWAYS, need to make it into a weapon to attack DC or the DCEU with. 

DCEU fans do what we do because we want to see our chosen franchise get the respect we feel it deserves and hasn’t received thus far but MCU fans have everything going for them: Box office success, critical adoration, success in TV and film, respected actors and directors lining up to be involved. There’s no reason for them to go on the offensive as much as they do.

I’m honestly curious why that is. It sure as hell isn’t because they’re also DC fans who want the films to improve, as some would like to claim, as many are eager, bordering on desperate, to see a world in which Disney/Marvel is dominant in everything and has no competitor.

I know a good portion of them, as with every other fandom including DC, act that way because it’s the only sense of victory or accomplishment they have in their lives, similar to sports and video game fans, and I have some sympathy for them.

Part of me would like to think that it’s because they know that, for all their ego and boasting, Warner Bros is capable of providing genuine competition and they won’t tolerate any threat, real or perceived, to their superiority and fragile ego’s. I know many would scoff at such an assessment, given the status of the two franchises, but people don’t generally devote as much time and energy to attacking something that they are equally eager to point is of no threat to them. 

Hence why they need to use Captain Marvel to attack Wonder Woman. They once imagined, as so many did, that Disney would break the glass ceiling on superhero films and to see such a major accomplishment, one Disney could have done years ago as the frequent claims that they couldn’t deviate from their all important plan are now being seen as a flimsy excuse that doesn’t hold up to scrutiny, go to a competitor they love to paint as hopelessly incompetent has to sting quite a bit and their behavior is an expression of that anger, of the feeling of vulnerability they never imagined they’d have to feel.

Of course I’m aware that some of them, as the Simpsons taught us, are just jerks.

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Unpopular opinion

I think MCU fans and people who work for that franchise, wheter they’re actors or screenwriters or whatever, should keep any opinions they have on how to ‘’fix’’ or ‘’save’’ the DCEU to themselves.

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I’ll be honest in relation to the MCU so that no one thinks I’m like any of those awful pricks who insist They’re only so critical of the DCEU because They ‘’care’’ and ‘’want it to be better’’

I don’t want it to improve any of the things I’ve criticized it for

I have two reasons for this

The first is that the MCU just plain isn’t for me and it’s not Their job to adjust Themselves to please me. I can just go out and enjoy every other bit of pop culture if I don’t like it. 

The second is that I know that if They adjust or improve any such elements, fans and critics will immediately use it as ammo against the DCEU and use it to continue this bizarre fucking mentality They have about these films where They think it works like Highlander. 

Right now, the DCEU has a number if things going for it that the MCU has either struggled with or has just outright failed to do or shown no interest in. Elements such as interesting villains, memorable and distinctive musical scores, unique aesthetics for each film and director, better action scenes, a balance of drama and levity and a willingness to be more serious. I know the second Marvel is seen as having achieved any of those, people will use it as an excuse to write off the DCEU and ask why we need it. This isn’t speculation. I’ve seen people say that over very minor things, such as dismissing the more serious DCEU films because Marvel had the netflix shows and asking why we need Aquaman when we have Thor on the grounds that They’re both royalty.

Obviously because They’re two completely different fucking characters but I see that as an example of the mentality I worry about gaining traction.

As such, at least until the DCEU has gotten the respect it deserves where so many people stop looking for any excuse whatsoever to write it off, I don’t want Marvel to adopt any of the elements that make it stand out. Not when I know what the end result will be for the DCEU and the way it’s treated.

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Since I’m probably going to transform into a bitter curmudgeon who can’t stand the mere mention of Marvel the second the fans start bragging about how They ‘’won’’ comic con and the usual tidal wave of anti-DCEU shit starts, I should take this opportunity to say I’m excited to see what we see of Black Panther and even Thor and Infinity War, even if those two are films I have no intention of seeing.

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Since I don’t want us to end up like MCU fans who refuse to acknowledge or credit anything that came before it, I’d love to see DCEU fans be more vocal in praising works that came before it, including the Dark Knight trilogy, even as we also criticize it for what it did wrong and argue against it being used against the DCEU.