Arrow Speculation - FP, Olicity and so on
OK... so I know this is probably going to sound a bit... WTF BUT please hear me out.
We know FP is going to affect Arrow and also that some effects are going to stick, OK? We don’t know exactly for how long, although based on what was said during TCA, it is safe to assume two episodes on Flash (and seeing that Felicity gives Barry “advice”, it is also a safe bet to think that maybe she helps him reverse it.)
We (or most of the speculations I’ve seen at least) all assumed that FP would be, in some way, “bad”. Like the BF might be FP related for instance. But... what if we’re seeing this the wrong way? After all, on the Flash, FP is actually “good”: it’s a nice, pretty reality that is actually empty and fake deep down but at first sight it’s... pretty perfect.
What if it’s the same on Arrow?
Based on many spoilers, including the two truths one lie from Ramsey at HVFF (Olicity together at the beginning of S5, MM part of Team Arrow and LP not destroyed), I came up with a something slightly different. Because our reaction was the lie is Olicity together, right? But then the other two must be the truth and... it’s kinda weird?
Bear with me (or bare with me, I never know), for this might be long because I try to be as detailed as possible (and because time-travel is just so fucking confusing):
Arrow 501: It is FP. And guess what? FP is kinda cool at first. Oliver and Felicity are together. Yup Why? MM is on Team Arrow (second truth. LP is still destroyed, that is the lie then in my speculation). But then if MM is an ally... he doesn’t kidnap William. DD doesn’t use him. And guess what... we discover that Oliver and Felicity are together because Felicity never found out about William in the first place. And the hard moment for oliciters? It’s the fact that perfect fluffy olicity is a lie and Oliver, that dumb idiot is *still* lying to her. (seeing how hard 408 was for us... we can all agree it won’t be an easy pill to swallow).
Remember that line “You keep expecting things to go back to what they were 5 months ago”? Marc told Jen it was from 505 with undertones of Olicity, right? Then we assumed he must have confused episodes because we clearly saw that line in 501 trailer. OK, so let’s roll with my theory: that line, in 501 *is* really honestly about the team. But keep reading, I’m not done with it.
Then Flash 302: Felicity shows up to give Barry advice (based on GG’s line at SDCC) and, as we think for most, she helps him reverse FP. (There will still be effects that stick though, but that’s another story). Wendy’s line about Felicity carrying something? Yes, it could totally be that knowledge of FP but it also could be something else (or something more). The knowledge that if DD hadn’t kidnapped William, Oliver would have kept lying to her all these months.
Arrow 502: They either make a montage (previously on arrow and the flash) or sthing along those lines to explains that 501 was a fake reality. We’re back in the real TL and in this real TL yeah Felicity has a BF. Did they ever specifically say that F has a BF that we see in episode 1? Like really episode 1? They said we meet him pretty fast but I’m not positive we know for sure it’s really the first episode. (obviously if they do confirm it’s episode 1, then this whole thing is probably pointless)
Fast forwarding to 505, the olicity-centered episode. That line “You keep on expecting things to go back blabla”: Felicity repeats that line, in the real reality and this time yes it is also about olicity. They already did something similar with the time-change from the crossover: Felciity said similar lines whenever she found the truth in 408 and 415.
During the whole season, Felicity will carry that... knowledge that Oliver kept on lying to her. But slowly she will come to terms with the fact that Oliver is changing and most importantly, this Oliver, the real one, has learned his lesson from his mistake. A lesson he never learned in FP. That knowledge might also be what pushes her towards the BF even faster. But it will also be a lesson for her that people can change when faced with consequences of their choices and Oliver will change because he will have faced the consequences of his actions. It could be very interesting to see Felicity struggling with that, IMO.
Which could bring us to Olicity back together by the end of the season and the finale of them somehow happy together, this time mirroring the premiere but in the real reality, not the fake one, showing that their relationship is now true and much, much stronger.
NB: About the things that will “stick” I believe it will impact Dig’s family. Concerned about Baby Sara being changed into Baby Connor for instance. I don’t think that the things that will stick will necessarily be directly linked to what we will see during 501 (because Dig is barely there in the first episodes anyway yet we know FP will impact him a lot)
Edit: All of this could/ is probably wrong btw. My main point was that maybe we are seeing FP the wrong way and this is what I came up with. FP will be a perfect fluffy reality on Arrow like on the Flash, but just like on the Flash it will be fake.
Tagging some folks that I think like speculations and stuff (XD) just because it’s HVFF and I know there are going to be tons of posts : @oliverdant @scu11y22 @booklove22 @lyricalarrow
