Throughout history, musicians have been stereotyped into being all about three things: sex, drugs, and rock and roll. Rarely do comic books fit into that narrative. Luckily for the nerd world, many musicians have been fans of comic books almost their entire lives. Patrick Kindlon is no exception to that fact. Pat is mostly known as the singer for the band Self Defense Family, but he has a lot of other stuff on his plate including other bands, writing and releasing comic books at Ashcan Press, and releasing records under the Deathwish Inc. imprint Harm Reduction Records. We took some time to talk to Pat about his love triangle with comics and music and how they all intersect.
How did you first get into comic books? Do you remember your first issue?
The spinner rack at Fay’s Drugs in the local plaza. I have four siblings and we’re all pretty close in age, so my mother’s job for a decade was keeping us busy. We’d walk to the local shopping plaza almost every day. Spider-Man, Groo the Wanderer, and The Punisher all grabbed me immediately. And that was that. My interests and life-goals were set into motion at age five. I have to imagine the first was a Spider-Man title. At that time, there were three ongoing series and a reprint series. I probably could not have avoided Spider-Man if I tried.
What brought you to the decision to form Ashcan Press?
My future writing partner called me and said, “I know you want to do this for a living. I do too. Let’s keep each other motivated.” That’s all it took. A partnership is a support-system of a type, but it’s also a drill sergeant. If you have someone who relies on you, you’re less likely to slack. It’s also possible to cover twice as much ground through partnership, and compensate for each other’s deficiencies. It’s that Napoleon Hill idea of a Master Mind.
Could you explain how you got to work on 12 Reasons To Die with Ghostface Killah from Wu-Tang Clan?
I have to give credit for that to my writing partner, Matt Rosenberg. An opportunity came up and he didn’t let it pass us by. He and I have years of experience on both the artist and -pardon the rough usage- executive side of putting out music, so it made us viable candidates for the Ghostface gig. We ‘get it’ and that goes a long way with certain dudes.
What caused you to gravitate towards underground music?
I honestly couldn’t say. Maybe young people stuff, like a quest for identity. Or, maybe I’m contrary by nature. Or I received a brain injury where loud annoying things appeal to me. For whatever reason, it just clicked.
Could you give a brief history on Self Defense Family?
We used to perform under a different name. One day some band members sort of went insane and quit or got kicked out. I called the remaining guitarist and left a message, “hey, shit just went tits-up over here. I’d like to keep doing this, but it’s gonna be tough without you. Call me back and let me know what you want to do.” He called me back elated. “This is a nice opportunity. Let’s rebuild this shit like Robocop.” And that’s what we did. We created a band that had all the features of our previous incarnation, but with none of the headaches. We’re both independent people and like to be around independent people. So, we found lone wolf performers who are self-starters, and we created more of that Master Mind thing I talked about earlier. Since then, we’ve released a bunch of records and have a bunch more coming. Toured a bunch and will tour a bunch more. The band is amorphous and isn’t just one thing, but operates like a killing machine with talented people.
Have comic books ever branched into your music?
The LP we’ve got coming out in a few months has a song named for Steve Ditko and another for Dave Sim. Unrelated, we’ve got a project that has some comic/music crossover coming later in 2015. I’ll announce as soon as we’re far enough along with it. And, eventually, we’ll have a record with songs named after The Punisher story arcs.
I know you’re a big Earth Crisis fan, what did you think of the Liberator short run based on their new record? And if you were given the chance to do a band-based comic, who would it be with?
I haven’t caught up to it yet. Newer titles stack up on me. I’m not sure who I’d most want to work with in music. Does Dazzler count? Rappers do a great job of creating personal mythos around themselves, and they use fiction in their work much more than guitar-based musicians do these days. So, if I was creating a work of fiction, I’d lean towards a hip hop artist.
You seem to be a pretty busy guy: SDF, Drug Church, Ashcan Press, and your record label Harm Reduction all seem very involved. How do you manage to juggle everything at once?
Barely. Or, the people in my life who rely on me for attention or affection might say, I don’t manage to juggle everything at once. Everything I do is time-consuming with small financial payoff. That’s my lifestyle and I quite like it, but it doesn’t work as an online dating profile. I keep lists and I partner with equally motivated people. I’m starting a number of new enterprises in 2015. I already feel tired.
What are some current comic titles you’ve been into recently?
I’m grateful for Dark Horse repackaging Lone Wolf & Cub into omnibuses, but I get that doesn’t count as current. I was surprised by how much I enjoyed Nightworld. I’m really impressed with The Fade Out because it deals in such familiar elements, but manages to stay interesting.
With all of your endeavors, I’m sure you have a plethora of projects coming out. What can we expect to see in the next year or so?
A new series in March. God willing, another in the summer. An OGN around that time too. Another OGN will be finished well before that, but finding a publisher for that one will be tough because of the content. Then, things that I sing on: I’ve got seven Self Defense releases, two Drug Church releases, a Loss Leader record, and a No Mystery God record. Harm Reduction Records will have four or five records come out, and another label I just started will have two or three. I’m keeping busy in 2015.
Pat can be followed on Twitter at @selfdfens.
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