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Retracts the facial portion of his shield just so he can give his hubby a smooch on the snoot~ ♥
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[I definitely didn't see it coming! But I feel so bad for him. XD]
(( Awwwww :D well..he is a sad and sexually unlucky man))
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“You can- WHAT?”
Ryuuji was very well informed about all the scientific advancements around the world but he’d never heard of something so advanced!
“How can you do that?” He gently pinched the man’s skin. “It feels like a regular one... How?! Who carried out this experiment? I have to learn how it’s done!”
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He’s gonna slap you so hard.
Seated behind his hubby on said hubby's bed, he's calmly putting his long hair in a braid~ (though he does give the occasional playful tug)
Kimbley had been in the middle of refining a few of his notes before Greed commenced his ministrations, but as he began to focus more fully on those strong fingers lacing through his inky locks, he couldn’t prevent his eyes from slowly, little by little, slipping shut. Ever since youth, he’d always enjoyed the sensation of having his hair brushed or caressed---the unfortunate thing was, however, very few had ever been allowed to get near enough to his hair to do so.
But Greed---as always---remained such an odd exception.
Strange, how he’d once viewed quiet moments such as this as an atrocious waste of his time---yet now, after all these years, he would prefer to be nowhere else.
[WHAT NORMAN HAS BEEN SLEEPING WITH MEN AS MOTHER??? THAT'S AWFUL HOLY SHIT]
and then had a panic attack in the bathroom about it sdlk
there was a lot going on in that episode and i loved every second of it
also shoutout to the guy mother’s been sleeping with because he is totally fine with 1) norman being male, 2) calling ‘norma’ by her proper name and pronouns, and 3) talking ‘her’ through a panic attack and even offering to call ‘her’ mom on request ;__;
i love him and i don’t even know his name pls god
[Maddie, in your opinion, is the movie all that disrespectful to people with DID? Because it does (thankfully) show that Norman's an awful person even without it.]
The short answer to this is yes.
The long answer is still yes, and here’s why.
Psycho came out in a time when not a lot was known about DID, so it was much easier for Hitchcock (and of course Robert Bloch, the original author) to get away with using it for a shocking twist ending. Unfortunately, while it wasn’t the first movie to use mental illness as a cheap scare tactic, it did open the doors for more and more knockoffs to come through. If Psycho were a standalone phenomenon, I’d probably say that no, it wasn’t super harmful to people with DID, because as you said (and as I’m quick to point out) Norman is a bad person even if he were mentally healthy. But it’s not a one-off, and at the end of the day, as much as I adore Psycho, they still played Norman’s mental illness as one of the “horrors” of the film.
There are many things that are problematic about the original story (especially if you remove my own personal headcanons and Bates Motel canon from the equation).
Dissociative Identity Disorder is grossly misrepresented. The psychiatrist at the end of the film speculates that Norman has conversations with himself (which we can see at several points in the movie as well). Modern standards of diagnosing DID don’t include having conversations with alters aloud, though there is usually a kind of “inner world” wherein the alters can communicate with one another and with the host.
Psycho is a psychological thriller / horror movie in which the main antagonist suffers DID, and his alter is portrayed as evil. Again, this very very rarely happens in real life, and in fact, alters usually aren’t violent at all. They’re created to protect the host.
Psycho uses DID as a “gotcha” plot twist. As a portrayal of a real disorder, it’s wrong and perpetuates the stigma that mentally ill people are dangerous, much like portrayals of autism in movies tends to lean toward “autism makes you a genius.”
DID in real life is most often the result of childhood trauma, but Norman is said to only have developed it in adulthood in response to murdering his mother. Yikes.
DID as a horror trope was around long before Robert Bloch came up with Norman Bates (Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde is the most obvious example of early DID/horror connections). But Hitchcock’s take on it made it more acceptable to stigmatize it.
Movies like Psycho and Split cause a lot of damage to real-life DID patients.
“It is incredibly distressing to see films such as Split continuing to misrepresent dissociative disorders, and only serves to perpetuate myths about this complicated condition. People living with DID have often experienced horrific trauma early on in life, and being painted as monsters further damages an already fragile mind.” ( x )
“Art is not merely fiction - it's an expression of life itself and it is how we make sense of the world and understand it. It is does not exist in, and is not created by, a vacuum. Even thrillers or sci-fi are founded upon the world we live in. Perpetuating negative stereotypes in film is incredibly damaging for people who fit those groups being stereotyped, because clearly, as some comments have indicated, it affects how people treat them.” ( x )
“The cultural stigma around the diagnosis crippled my own acceptance of it and movement toward healing. I am terrified of anyone finding out, seeing it on me like a scarlet letter. I know I need to embrace the reality of my life but movies like Split and the resulting shame I feel for being what I am in society’s eyes is demoralizing and dehumanizing.” ( x )
Bates Motel did a much better job of handling Norman’s DID as a real disorder. The mother half has her own interests and tastes, gets a say, has a three-dimensional story, is given agency over herself, and is treated like a real character. This wasn’t possible to do in Psycho because we see the story from an outsider’s perspective rather than through Norman’s own eyes.
I love Psycho, and think that it broke a lot of barriers in regards to film censorship, cinematic soundtracks, clever marketing, and storytelling. I think it did a lot of good to the movie industry, and it’s probably always going to be my favorite movie of all time.
But when people who suffer from DID are speaking up and saying that movies like Fight Club, Psycho, and Split are portraying DID in a harmful way and perpetuating the stigma, I think that it’s very important to listen to them rather than try to defend the entertainment industry.
I have a lot more thoughts on this subject but they aren’t quite coming together. I recommend watching Systems Against Split to hear actual people with DID give their thoughts on movies that stigmatize the illness.
( tl;dr -- While I do think that Norman is awful with or without his illness, most people don’t look too deeply into analysis when watching horror films, so Psycho is certainly guilty of perpetuating the harmful stereotypes against the mentally ill. )
[YOUR ART IS SO CUTE WTF]
kdsalfj thank u...... i have an art blog over at @quirkydetectives and i’ll probably be putting all these up over there when i’m done lol. maybe cleaned up and colored, idk yet.