#avvars

[moontheoretist]

I named my Avvar Amells father!

His name is Arne Camdensen.

"Arne" as "arn" means "eagle". 

"Camden" as "enclosed valley", and "-sen" for "son of Camden".

Which means that Amells could be referred to by their Avvar relatives as: 

- Eliana Arnesdotten 

- Faranha Arnesdotten 

As their father is part of the Hold and mother is a Kirwall Ex-Noble.

[moontheoretist]

Mouse is also an Avvar God?

Avvars’ beliefs contain three Gods, which connect all the tribes: Father of the Mountain, Lady of the Skies and Hakkon the Wintersbreath. But outside of these three main Gods, they have also several others like for example Sigfrost:

“The Great Bear sleeps at the foot of the Mountain Father's throne, and is so vast in size that Korth once confused him with a small mountain. Sitting at Korth's foot, he is also the guardian of wisdom. Avvars may challenge him to acquire knowledge, but the bones of many on such a quest are strewn about his den.”

I bet that not only for me this sounds familiar... but the last part of this description is the most interesting for me, because it implies that Singfrost exist in the Fade as the spirit or demon.

“Several Circle magi claim to have met Sigfrost in the Fade.”

Does it also sounds for someone as if several circle mages mistook the Sloth Demon, which we meet during the Harrowing, for a Sigfrost? (The description of Sigfrost even aligns with our Harrowing quest in which we go to the Sloth Demon to acquire knowledge about the demon, which we will have to face to pass and he gives that to us only after we please him with answering correctly to his riddles - kinda like Sphynx, lol). If so then the next thing I am going to say will be even more interesting than this one, because Avvars seem to have a God, who sounds as someone who we all know:

“The trickster of the Avvar pantheon, Imhar is a slight man who must rely on his quick tongue instead of strength. Avvars enjoy tales of Imhar's jests and mockery, perhaps the most popular of which is that of Imhar and an evil seductress. She lured him into facing her unarmed, then faced him with an army of demons. Playing the coward, Imhar lead them on a merry chase through a mountain pass. When they thought they had cornered him, Imhar laughed out loud. The great noise shook the peaks, and the horde was crushed beneath the avalanche he caused.”

His name is Imhar, but for me he sounds as if he could pass as man using the name Mouse... who is extremelly interesting, because he seems to share characteristics not only with Imhar, but also with The Formless One - one of the spirits/demons, who abandoned The People. [link] Not to mention that Imhar also seems to be similar to the Dread Wolf and could pass as Fen’Harel and in his weakened state as Solas in the same time.

What all of this could mean then? 

I don’t know. It may mean nothing, but it may also mean something. Like for example that the places, which Avvars build, like Kinloch Hold, Vigils Keep, Skyhold and several others, are somehow connected to their Gods. 

Skyhold for example is connected to the Lady of the Skies... but also to Korth (The Mountain-Father), who seem to be more or less a human, who became a god, according to one of the old Avvaran songs.

“Most Avvars believe Korth is as old as Frostbacks themselves, but the Winter Song of the ancient Frosthold clan tells otherwise. According to this song, which is sung during Wintersend, Korth was a hunter who brought his people to the mountains at the dawn of time.”

Maybe those are the places in which meeting their Gods is more likely to happen? It sounds accurate when we take into the consideration that from Avvars perspective Spirits are the Gods. Not far from truth would be also a statement that some of their original Gods could become demons in the meantime and that we actually already met several of them.

Not to mention that Avvar Gods could be in truth elven Gods as well.

For me personally it’s interesting how it all seems to be connected to each other... as if the whole history of modern Thedas was run by the stories about three different individuals, who ended as several different Gods in every culture. Lady of the Skies for example sounds strangely like Mythal. A lot of stories about her also feature the forms, which we associate with Mythal, so everything is possible.

[moontheoretist]

An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works

Alistair being descendant of Calenhad and Calenhad allowing for the Circles and Chantry to enter his new nation against the wishes of Aldenon who considered them just another form of slavery puts an interesting spin into my headcanoned romance between Alistair and my Warden Amell, because my Warden is Avvaran by birth if not raised as such. And she really dislikes Circles later on when she finally managed to shake off the conditioning she was given in Kinloch to the point that she wants to build a world in which mages are free, and she is also responsible for sharing information about the Harrowing and other things that are kept secret in the Circles, because they need to be known. She believes that people need to be made aware of what is happening and how being in the Circles is inherently more dangerous to them than being all and about, living as they please.

And when I say “interesting spin” I mean HISTORICAL spin, because we all know that Alistair is not the same as other kings of Ferelden. He was a trained to be a Templar, but he resisted the conditioning and didn’t get brainwashed by their bullshit, therefore he knows that mages are treated unfairly, even though he still considers blood mages to be all evil by principle. Still he is probably the only King that truly considered giving Mages freedom, so his romance with Warden Amell that is a mage and is Avvaran by birth, puts an interesting spin on the STORY between Allamari and Avvars, because this is literally the second time they are united, but this time romance was tragic in a sense that they could not be together and if you made Alistair King he could feel betrayed by you, because you disregarded his wish to never become the King. So the story gets even more complicated if you add the historical factor of Allamari and Avvars being at odds, it just makes my tragic romance even more interesting story to tell.

Dragon Age lore: "Memories of Avvar savagery sour relations between the barbarians and Fereldan kings for ages."

Meanwhile me: *made a forbidden romance, but didn't even know about it* My HC turned very Romeo and Jullietish all of a sudden.

[moontheoretist]

This dance for DA Avvars, please.

[moontheoretist]

It’s not wise to let Anders meet with Avvars

The augur allow their apprentices to be possessed by a summoned Spirit and the spirit teaches the mage how to control their magic with patience and kindness.

Despite that Avvars’re practicing magic, which can change their mages into stable abominations, they also have some rules, which must be respected by possessed mages:

When the teaching is done, the mage must then release the spirit through a ritual that involves burning an offering and casting a taxing spell that usually requires a vial of lyrium to replenish one's strength. If the ritual is not done then the abomination is to be exiled.

Sigrid Guldsdotten is the abomination, who was so attached to her teacher that she couldn’t complete the ritual to release the Spirit. She has been exiled, because of that. It likely would mean that if she won’t complete the ritual, she may become corrupted. I think that it can be a good reason, why Avvars established this rule. They’re not stupid. They know that abominations can be dangerous, but also that they necessarily doesn’t have to become corrupted:

Weak mages unable to control their magic remain possessed and the Avvars' spirit gods watches them both so neither soul becomes corrupted.

On the other hand it would end badly for someone like Anders, who is the corrupted abomination:

If the abomination becomes corrupted or the mage stands at risk of harming the hold, then one day the abomination simply dies in their sleep.

It sounds like assassination, so I think that they would likely kill him than help him to release the Spirit of Justice/Vengeance.

[acealistair]

@avvars *waggles eyebrows* u got a secret admirer it seems~~~

[therearenohooksinme]

avvars replied to your post “avvars replied to your post:still not interested in doing my greek...”

it cool u just gotta kill ppl for the both of us let me live vicariously through u

mission after action report: i killed a lot of ppl and made tons of cash. even beat a mid game boss (twice) in your honour

[therearenohooksinme]

avvars replied to your post:still not interested in doing my greek history...

id be doing this but my vita is dead so I have no escape ��

ah the advantages of pc gaming