I dreamed BlackPink and Twice were invited to runningman and bp and the rm cast (-the new members) against twice. The setting looked like dream team a big blue pool out door with red pillar surounded by foam with different atributes, like some were more stable then others. They had to play burning ball and bo absolutly killed it well lisa did but twice dahyun turned the game around and in the end they were two happy girlgroups promoting and having fun together. and i woke up dissapointed in YG
Hi! I am the anomino who did the bp comparison with mamamoo and twice. Where it was turned into post. I don't care. I wanted to know your opinion on the subject. I like some things that talk about bp. Sorry for my English.
Don’t worry your English is fine hun, and sure if you want to hear my opinion about it, I will gladly share it with you.
So first of I kind of have to disagree with you, I don’t think Black Pink doesn’t have a concept. I actually think it’s quite the opposite because obviously, YG hopped on the new trend, alongside SM did with RedVelvet, and created a group with a two-sided concept.BlackPink is supposed to be the unicorn-slipper wearing girl, with flowers in their hair, sipping on a pink strawberry latte with glitter topping, while kicking ass. In other words badass but cute.
Which is Cheerful unique and actually quite a cool concept, because it should be absolutely fine to be cute and strong however the problem is, that’s not how YG promoted them. His marketing strategy was to sell them as second or new 2ne1.
It feels like they have no real concept because BP themselves sometimes feel like they’re unsure what the company wants them to be, like overwhelmed kids, pressed by their parents to be like their big siblings, but at the same time told to be their cute innocent self and stay that way forever.
So the problem is, the two face concept can be quite a hit or miss, I mean we see it with redvelvet compared to other SM groups they have had a rather rookie rookie eh I mean rocky start. They are doing fine currently, but all because SM knows how to promote them right.
So now about the other two mentioned groups, I’m personally not very fond of comparisons if they are just being used to bring down one side. I mean sure we all analyze things based on others, like above I compared RV and BP but once you go down the road and search for mistakes or the differences, then you will be endlessly occupied, don’t get to worked up in it because it can quickly become quite toxic. There is this very accurate saying, “The grass is always greener on the other side.” Meaning, we all have that one person we envy, we think is prettier, or wealthier, or luckier, has the perfect boy/girlfriend or wife/husband, or family. We are all guilty of it, and we all have that moment of envy, without realizing that person has its own package to carry, its own resentments, its own worries, its own things she/he is nitpicking about her/himself. Both Mamamoo and Twice have their own antis, and mismanagement to deal with, maybe not right now, just perhaps not so obvious, but nothing is all perfect and shiny.
So now why it makes no sense to compare Twice and BlackPink,
because they come from two different companies, different image, different music and fashion style. The only similarities are that they are both girl groups and debuted relatively close to one and another (~ a year). Yet even their debut circumstances were different, let’s not forget Twice had a survival show leading to their debut. The public already knew those girls, their image, and part of their personalities. They didn’t debut to be the unknown super rookies, full of talent, they debuted to be the next generation of a national GG. Cheerful, bubbly girls, cheerleading the public on with their charms. And I don’t see twice having much of a say in their songs or concept either or else signal wouldn’t have happened. So they are as much under their companies say, and mercy as BP is.
At the moment JYP may give them more comebacks, but Twice is at their peak and the company needs to milk that as much as possible. Because with more members there is always a risk of imbalance - one member could suddenly shoot to stardom as they probably slowly start to do solo works soon, but also fights or scandals may take place. I’m not saying that either of this has to happen, it could be a smooth run like SNSD had, but seen with AOA and also 2ne1 girl group scandals (no matter how small and harmless they may appear) can become quite immense and devasting. And I know AOA career isn’t done yet and (OHH that’s another group I forgot to mention) I really hope they come back with another bop, but the scandal they had did make them lose some of their momentum they had.So long story short I don’t see comparison material here.
Now to BlackPink and Mamamoo,
I can see why you would compare them - 4 girls vs. 4 women. Even though Wheein and Hwasa have the same age as Jisoo with Jisoo actually being the oldest of the three Speaking of the wonders of an image. Mamamoo appears far more grown up and mature, but judging by their past recurring inappropriate actions towards poc, they are not. Now different here is Mamamoos company is smaller, obviously. Their CEO personally searched for girls with outstanding talent and vocals to perform his own written songs. So the CEO from the beginning on choose trainees he could work with, hence he values their opinion. And no matter what you personally think about Mamamoo, there is no denial that they have some of the strongest most impressive vocals, not exclusive of course they are other great vocals, but they are extremely talented and sound beautiful together. Important to note here is the CEO writes the songs for them himself, so there isn’t much of back and forth between production, songwriters, and artist.etc. It’s easier to work together and give valuable inputs when you can work on a song with all the people involved being present or in one company. It also means fewer costs for a song, because the producers don’t need to be extern hired. And yes I know, I know, YG has Teddy working under YG, but he still needs to pay him royalty fees, and song rights, since it’s a job he is doing for YG, being under the company doesn’t mean he does it for free. And Teddy is an old stager he has worked for many and with many stars and also he has quite many people he needs to work with, so naturally, he probably hasn’t as much time nor interest to train every other group YG comes up with ( who may not even debut) to work with him. I also think it has a lot to do with the way it’s cultural to respect seniors in Korea, I don’t think a newbie rookie group has much of a chance to have a lot of say in their songs, no matter how they were trained, the seniors would end up having the more say in it. So again two different situations, and relationships between producer and idols. That being said that doesn’t mean BP can’t earn teddys respect and in the future work closer together with him, and have a lot more say in what they release and what’s not or even produce themself. That is: IF YG LETS THEM OUT O THE DUNGEON
So Twice and Mamamoo image was set to be more public appealing, while BP target audience, are young adults and teenager the typical idol target audience, by trying to be a niche group but at the same time appealing with going the save cute route most girlgroups aproach because it’s morepublic friendly then just being badass. So when breaking YG thoughts down you see the buisnes behind it and that their was indeed a plan behind the group and concept.Hence we can’t really compare the popularity of each group, because first that’s a matter of luck and how much a company is willing to pay for the popularity.
It must be hard for the BP Girls to see Twice having stable comebacks and actually getting work from their company. The two groups are known to be friend even during their trainee days, so it must bittersweet on BP watching their friends get crowned ‘Korea’s National Girl Group’ and getting decent comeback promotions, when it could have also been them instead if YG actually gave effort to promote BP properly.
Using twice to hate on bp.. how pity are you seriously? So this 2018? A year when people put girls against girls just to hate on a group that they don’t like.. this is just stupid.
Twice break records because jyp give them a good promotion! How can bp have many records if yg doesn’t promote them good?! Stop being dumb! And what is love reach 100M yes.. but it’s still doesn’t beat the 24h record that BLACKPINK have! Stay pressed and salty HATERS!