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something about the tomshiv "I'm sorry for fucking you up" scene- I see ppl being like yeah logan and caroline got there long before you... but like thats not the point imo, everything shiv said about being fucked up before tom is true but like... their marriage did fuck her up!! she loves him and he betrayed her!! shiv laughing was much more about closing herself off from tom than it was about previous trauma
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One of the things that's fun for me about Succession is whenever I start asking myself, "is this one thing or is it another?", it almost always ends up being both, even if they seem mutually exclusive at a glance. And I feel like Dog Pound is one of those things, where on the one hand it's a memory Roman is displacing onto worse trauma he doesn't want to think about, but was also still traumatic in its own right and not a purely innocent game. I believe probably what went on mirrored his and Kendall's dynamic in Hunting, where Kendall feels helpless and crushed by their father and takes it out on Roman because he needs to have someone beneath him, and he feels really guilty about it but has repressed that due to his own lack of autonomy at the time. And also because Roman was too young to really understand what was going on the cage in some way became a source of both shame/terror and comfort, like he maybe internalized that he belonged there.
yeah exactly!! I see it the same way!! I'm never satisfied when ppl describe it as kendall hurting or [redacted] roman and them just gaslighting him or roman just misremembering/lying to annoy them. bc there are definitely elements of where clearly the way logan treated kendall caused kendall to see roman like that and that fucked him up (see kendall being like yah fuck roman and shoulder-checking him into the cage elevator but also roman was clearly misremembering some of it (connor and roman disagreeing on the location/ the timeline not making sense [a four year old wouldn't be sent to military school])
also a little more on romans psychology (bc it's me. I mean...) I think it became a way of basically being included. roman gets shut out a lot of the family dynamic and for him negative attention is still attention. that's why I talk so much about the tmb argument bc I feel like ppl miss romans goals there a lot. he was being a total asshole specifically bc he wanted shiv/kens acknowledgment that he was winning/was finally a player and they just kept being like rome that's bad and focusing on each other. (which, to be clear im not saying that they were bullying him and he was justified in any capacity just those were his motives yknow). like he wants them to fight back, he's enjoying that element when shiv starts to fire into him too. so when kendall won't engage and instead is like. you don't matter. he resorts to what he's used before in childhood to get attention , which is getting them to hurt him