#challenger 3

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Challenger 1, Challenger 2, and Challenger 3

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Showing off the DM83 for the Challenger 3.

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Britse Challenger 3 tank vuurt eerste keer het 120mm L55A1-kanon af (video)

Het Britse leger heeft een belangrijke mijlpaal bereikt met de eerste succesvolle bemande live-fire test van de Challenger 3. Daarmee is het voor het eerst in meer dan dertig jaar dat een nieuw ontwikkelde Britse Main Battle Tank daadwerkelijk met bemanning is afgevuurd. De proef vormt een cruciale stap richting operationele inzet en bevestigt dat het moderniseringsprogramma op schema ligt. De…

Britse Challenger 3 tank vuurt eerste keer het 120mm L55A1-kanon af (video)

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the screenshots are below the break cause tanks but here's me being autistic about the Challenger 2/3 on the War Thunder forums because ppl think the photos from IAV 2024 show a newly fabricated turret shell.

Oh and to explain some terms:

The LEP - Life Extension Program - was a project during the mid-to-late 2010s to, well, extend the life of the Challenger 2. LEP TD (2019) refers to the Technology Demonstrator presented by Rheinmetall in 2019 as their bid for the LEP contract.

CR3 TD (2021) is to all intents and purposes the same as the 2019 LEP TD, but this time used as part of the announcement of Challenger 3 in May 2021. There may have been changes made to it in the 2 year gap but there's no way of knowing as yet.

CR3 IAV (2024) refers to the tank seen in the photos released in January during IAV which shows off the """new""" turret as well as potential changes to the armour going forward.

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Rheinmetall showcases Boxer, HX3 howitzer, Mission Master vehicles at DSEI

Rheinmetall showcases Boxer, HX3 Howitzer, Mission Master vehicles at DSEI #India #Germany #defence #defense #rheinmetall #missionmaster #boxer #lynx #infantry #nationalsecurity #knowyourwhy #baesystems #dsei2021 #exhibition #science #innovation #marketing

Rheinmetall DSEI 2021: German defence giant Rheinmetall and its UK joint venture Rheinmetall BAE Systems Land (RBSL) displayed Boxer mechanised infantry vehicle, HX3 self-propelled howitzer and Mission Master land unmanned vehicles at the prestigious British defence exhibition DSEI held in capital London. Boxer Mechanised Infantry Vehicle In November 2019, the UK Ministry of Defence (MOD) awarded…

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Rafael's Trophy APS selected for UK's Challenger 3 Battle Tank

Rafael's Trophy APS selected for UK's Challenger 3 MBT #India #defence #defense #nationalsecurity #rafael #RBSL #Rheinmetall #BAESystems #Hensoldt #Trophy #USA #science #innovation #USA #UK #Russia #China #Japan #Australia #News #Industry #Business

Rafael Trophy APS: Trophy Active Protection System (APS) developed by Israel’s leading defence company Rafael Advanced Defense Systems has been selected for the next phase of detailed assessment and integration by the UK Ministry of Defence for the Army’s Challenger 3 Main Battle Tank (MBT), said the Israeli defence giant. The selection is a result of a study conducted by the UK MOD as part of an…

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Chally 3 Announced!

I’m a bit late on this one, but the British Army have finally persuaded BoJo to finance an upgrade on the MBT front... Here’s some out-of-touch thoughts from someone who isn’t at all qualified to understand this stuff, but likes tanks anyway and has an opinion. 

TL:DR it’s good, but should have been either a small~ish upgrade / patch-up now or a brand new tank a bit later, I’m not sure this is worth the cost.

1) Rheinmetall 120mm smoothbore - definitely an upgrade but is it enough for the cost? It’s good but we could have waited a bit longer and been world leaders jumping to the new Rheinmetall 130mm or 140mm guns under development, for far more power as the 120mm is starting to reach it’s upper limit RN. It’s not as if they’re too big, slap a bustle-style autoloader on and job’s a good one. Hell, Rheinmetall built a Chally 2 with this set up and it seems to work (I think - can’t verify that at all).

2) Protection upgrade - Turret = nice to have, already have one of the strongest turrets out there but some more protection against APFSDS would be useful. Hull = badly needed, they usually add ERA blocks when in theatre but they aren’t much use Vs mines, so some mine protection is *GREAT*.

3) Tech / battlefield management systems / etc. - Needed. Chally 2 is still a modern tank but hasn’t had as many updates in its life as other MBTs have, so this is long overdue.

4) Powerpack upgrade - mainly a good reliability update, can’t be bad but it isn’t getting more powerful. The tank started out quite heavy, and it isn’t getting lighter with all these add-ons... 

5) APS - “fitted for but not with” WELL WHY NOT? The yanks have M1A2 SEP V2 with Trophy APS, the Israelis invented Trophy, the Russians have a similar set up, seemingly everyone else is developing / testing it. This isn’t experimental or untested tech, it works so why aren’t we actually fitting it?

5) Numbers - 148 tanks isn’t enough. Not nearly enough. As an island we need a Navy and Air Force more than an Army, but we still need SOME ground forces, our expeditionary commitments with NATO are still important as well as our deterrent threat so we should be prepared. The USA is on the decline in international stature so we can’t rely on their army, we need to be ready ourselves. Some say we need over 1,000 MBTs but IMO we should have 450 to 500 Chally 3 tanks; that’s not too many but about right for Britain’s position, 148 is just disgraceful.

There’s other things I’ll’ve missed, but those are the 5 big ones that I was thinking about. 

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