#classics fun

[daimonie]

forming a support group called “Lesbian Classicists Who Can’t Read Sappho Because the Aeolic Dialect is a Mess” who’s with me

[daimonie]

Marvel: Infinity War is the most ambitious crossover of all time.

Me:

[daimonie]

if I only know one thing about Homer it is this: Nausicaa is a lesbian

[harpaax]

examples of ancient greek cult heroes:

Cleomedes of Astypalaea. Killed opponent in pankration at Olympia in 429BC. Driven mad by grief, killed 60 school children by pulling down the supporting columns of their school. Locals attempt to stone him to death as punishment, and he so he runs away and seeks refuge in the nearby Sanctuary of Athena and hides in a chest. The Astypalaeans are unable to open the chest and so break it open, yet find it empty. Pythian demands them to honour the athlete for they had violated Cleomedes right of immunity within the sanctuary, and feared the anger of the gods [Paus. 6.9.8-9].

Hero of Temesa. Originally a member of Odysseus’ crew, he r/aped a woman in Temesa and was consequently stoned to death by the locals. His ghost returns and continuously kills the people of Temesa, and the Pythia orders them to propitiate the hero by building him a temple and to annually provide him with a new wife in hope that it would appease his anger [Paus. 6.6.7-9].

Children of Caphyae. Pretended to hang a statue of Artemis, and the city’s people stone them to death. Local women in the area began having miscarriages until the Pythia ordered the children to be buried and given sacrifices, for they had died unjustly, and worshiped them and the hanged Artemis [Paus. 8.23.6-7]

[daimonie]

χαίροισ' ἔρχεο κἄμεθεν μέμναισ', οἶσθα γὰρ ὤς [σ]ε πεδήπομεν

Sappho 94

“Rejoice, go and remember me. For you know how we cherished you.” (trans. Anne Carson)

[daimonie]

{changed my url bc δαιμονιε is by far my favorite greek word and I have spent this whole week thinking about possible english translations for it}

{on a related note, if anyone has any good translations for δαιμονιε, let me know? Thus far the closest I’ve gotten is “you’re something else” which carries the concept of strangeness but could also be used in both intimate/angry contexts...}

[harpaax]

I should probably mention that this is mainly a gaming/fandom/personal/whatever-you-call-them blog

me actually posting any classics related stuffs - except uni rambling - is kinda rare hah

[harpaax]

essay planning because I know I’m gonna end up accidentally deleting it on Word at some point

(and it’s nice to keep the really simplified plan because then it just gets complicated/confusing when I actually start fleshing out the sections)

Role of ‘Clever Slave’ in Pl/autus

Introduction

Discuss Ro/man Co/medy/Pl/autus in general - use of predictable plots and reliance on stock characters, with ‘clever slave’ prominent/central to Pl/autus’ plays.

21 of his plays - 40 slaves, of which 14 hold important roles within the play. Can be divided into groups, i.e. the 'clever’ slave (8 of them), ‘deceived’ slaves (i.e. Sc/eledrus), or ‘good’ slaves (i.e. Me/ssenio).

Role within vary - provide humour, as well as engineer deceptions/trickery that forms the basis of the plot. Also, just because a slave is ‘good’ does not mean that it is not clever.

PLAYS: Ps/eudolus, Mi/les Glo/riosus, Men/aechmi, Most/ellaria

General Outline of Possible Paragraphs/Sections??

The ‘clever’ slave vs. the ‘good’ slave - What were they exactly and function in their plays? (maybe focus on Me/ssenio, Pse/udolus and Pala/estrio; though Tr/anio and Gr/umio’s exchange toooo gdi)

Role: Trickery/Deception [- control of the plot]

Role: Humour

Role: Portrayal of slave and master relationship. How and why?

Conclusion

I have no clue.. uh