#classpect comparison

[techtakesoff]

Do you mind analyzing the difference between a Knight of Breath and a Sylph of Breath? If you only do one, then just a Knight of Breath would be fine.

Yes, I'll do a comparison.

Knight of Breath V. Sylph of Breath

Breath - control over wind and airflow, as well as freedom.

Knight - passive exploitation class, one who serves aspect, or serves through aspect for others.

Sylph - passive creating class, one who heals/fixes their aspect, or heals/fixes with their aspect.

The Knight of Breath is one who serves Breath or serves through Breath for others. Metaphorically, they exploit freedom.

The Sylph of Breath is one who heals or fixes Breath, or heals/fixes with Breath. Metaphorically, they'd be the ones to unshackle someone in captivity.

Their opposites are the Thief of Blood, and the Prince of Blood, respectively.

The Knight of Breath is one who'd exploit the wind itself, and this can be taken many ways. They could use this by using the air itself in a devastating attack, or they could use this wind to free their friends.

The Sylph, on the other hand, is one who heals with Breath. They'd be the ones releasing people from their bonds, or clearing out others' minds. Perhaps they could even heal with The Breeze.

So, there's a few differences, at least.

Similarities:

Both are passive classes.

Both rule over the same aspect, which would bring them an innate understanding of each other.

Both would be the type of people to immediately rush to your side and try to help you.

Differences:

One heals, the other exploits.

The Knight would use someone else's freedom for their friends, but the Sylph would be more inclined to fix that.

Knights naturally start out with a deficiency in their aspect which leads them to put up a facade ghosting their opposite aspect.

Challenges:

Breath as an aspect is all about freedom. Both of these players would be more inclined to go their own direction (especially the Knight, who might have not had this ability in most of their life), and this might lead to conflict.

The two of them would have to learn how to tether themselves down, to not fly too close to the Sun, etc. They have to overcome the instinct to run free and fly forever. They can't go too far, because then you'll lose both of them.

[classpect-hotline]

Knight of Light / Rogue of Light Personality Comparison

Ohh, this is an interesting one!

The Knight and Rogue are opposite classes, the Knight is active and the Rogue is passive, the Knight weaponizes and the Rogue steals.

What they have in common: They are deeply insecure. Both think they lack their aspect and that they are not good enough at it. They’re also very friendly: The Knight is very loyal and the Rogue very considerate.

Since this was in the ask, I’m gonna go more in detail about their insecurities! Being of the same aspect, they are insecure about the same thing: Light. There is a very small difference between the Knight and Rogue’s fears though. The Knight has a strong fear of failure with their aspect, and think they’re not good enough at it or lack it. (The Knight of Light worries about not being important enough, for example.) The Rogue thinks they don’t deserve it, can’t handle it or lack it. (A Rogue of Light thinks they shouldn’t be important, that they wouldn’t be able to handle being important and/or that they just aren’t.) It’s a very small difference, and you may even feel all of that at the same time. So, especially if you’re trying to find which classpect fits you better, there is a huge difference between these two:

Differences: How they deal with their insecurities.

The Rogue thinks they can’t handle it and it causes them to act the opposite of their aspect. The Knight has a fear of failure and think they aren’t good enough, putting on a façade to look better at their aspect.

So, while the Rogue would try to avoid their aspect, the Knight would try to make others think they’re good at it. The Rogue of Light would act like a Void player, the Knight of Light would act like a “good” Light player.

So, a small analysis: The Rogue of Light thinks they’re not wise, important and worthy enough, so they give up all their important/difficult tasks and spotlight to others, and think maybe it’s better this way. The Knight of Light thinks they’re not good with important tasks and meanings, and have a strong fear of failure: they fear they will end up not being important or wise enough, so they put on a shield of confidence and obsessive effort. That means they act like they know everything, and they really try to. They act like they know they’re important and worthy when they think the opposite.

Hope I helped!

-Firefly

[techtakesoff]

if we're asking for so many princes, can you do a Prince of Blood vs Thief of Breath thing?

I'm gonna look real stupid if requests are closed or something, but I'm ready, hit me w/ it if so

Alright, I can do that.

Prince of Blood v. Thief of Breath

Prince - one who destroys their aspect, or destroys with their aspect.

Thief - active stealing class, one who steals aspect, or steals through aspect for themselves.

Blood - control over blood and bonds between others.

Breath - control over wind and airflow, as well as freedom.

The Prince of Blood is one who destroys Blood, or destroys with Blood. They destroy bonds.

The Thief of Breath is one who steals Breath, or steals through Breath for themselves. They steal freedom.

These two classes are very similar. For one, they destroy/steal something vital to a person, that being connections and freedom. They can restrict a person massively if they work together.

They're both offensive classes, meaning that they'll be your 'Offense' in an O/D/S situation. They're also opposites in terms of aspect, but because of the definition of both of their classes, they have very, very similar goals. The Prince of Blood is going to destroy bonds, setting people free in the process, but leaving them with no strings at all. A puppet cut from its strings. It's free, but it can't move. The Thief is one to sweep in and take this freedom, too. That'll make the puppet both with no strings, yet suspended in substance, so it has no freedom.

That is, if they work together. Active classes have a tendency to have infighting, and this can be seen several times in canon, where two people fighting are active/active pairs. Though, this could be a coincidence.

Either way, these two are going to need an intervention or fifty to make sure that they don't kill the world.

They're kind of each others' antidote....sorta? The Prince would cut the Thief's ties, and the Thief would restrict the freedom of the Prince. Putting them in an eternal deadlock.

These two have great potential. Don't let them kill each other.

[techtakesoff]

Can you talk a bit about the difference between a rogue and a knight? I consider myself a rogue of heart but I’m having trouble telling the difference via the identity denying things in rogues and knights. I don’t want to be as cold and serious and guarded as a knight of heart would be, but I do feel that accepting myself would be a better arc than just… whatever a rogue is supposed to do. I assumed a while ago that rogues are supposed to accept their aspect in themselves and let themselves keep some, but apparently the rogues arc is more like… just shut up and deliver the papers. I wish it was explained in the books how roxys arc ended because you have to extrapolate everything yourself with the base story.

Let's go over the complete basics of what Rogues and Knights actually mean as a class.

By my definition:

Knight - passive exploitation class, one who serves aspect, or serves through aspect for others.

Rogue - passive stealing class, one who steals aspect, or steals through aspect for others.

A Knight is often someone who pushes their problems away, in order to manage caring for others instead of themselves. They are not the therapist friend, but they are the friend who's willing to drop everything to help someone.

Something that Knights and Rogues share in common is that in some way, they have to accept their aspect, but in different ways.

I assume you're talking about being a Heart aspect player, and fortunately, I'm also a Heart player, so I know a little bit more in this area.

I will tell you that Knights of Heart are not consistently guarded or cold. A Knight of Heart is your friend who keeps their emotions and feelings restricted or even locked away, shoving whatever they feel under the rug in order to look more orderly and to seem like they know what they're doing.

On the other hand, a Rogue of Heart is someone who'd have to accept the fact that they have these feelings and thoughts in the first place. They might push away their feelings because from their experience, they have none. They do.

Heart as an aspect is all about feeling. A Knight of Heart tends to push their feelings away in order to focus on something/someone else, while a Rogue of Heart is more inclined to deny that these feelings exist in the first place and have them return full force later.

Knights and Rogues share a lot of similarities for sure, though.

Again, a lot of classpecting is a little over a decade or so of speculation, so don't be afraid to break the boundaries a little of what each classpect means. Nobody is linear, and since there are only 144 base classpects (not counting master classes), obviously nobody is going to fit into one classpect entirely.

[lythro-classpects]

could you possibly compare/contrast a page/knight of time? I'm trying to figure which I'd fit more. If not, could you just do page of time?

I can do a quick compare/contrast job, sure! (This will be based on pre-development, which is where you are most likely to be as a theoretical pre-session player.)

A Page of Time will initially overemphasize their aspect, pretending to be much more confident in it than they truly are to the point it clearly shows their incompetence. With Time, this may manifest as them believing themselves to be always punctual, or always sure of the way things will play out, while they continue to be late or to get things mixed up. 

A Knight of Time, on the other hand, will hide their experience with their aspect through a mask of some kind. They might hide their apathy through a mask of humor or their fear of inevitability through subtle rebellion. They might be an omnipresent reminder for their friends, a sort of ‘voice of reason’ trying to keep them on track. 

A Page will eventually develop into some nicer sounding traits as personal growth goes on, becoming much more dependable and reliable with their aspect, so don’t let the way I’ve described it sound unsavory. In fact, a developed Page will be much more powerful than a Knight of their same aspect in almost every case!