This is just my take on how I see the cognitive functions of INFP’s and INTJ’s working together. Disclaimer: any couple of any mbti can make it work. I strongly believe that. That said: there’s a definite attraction between INFP’s and INTJ’s and a lot of reasons why it’s an ideal match. Note: I’m ENFJ, not INTJ or INFP, so this is all from the outside looking in.
INFP: Fi-Ne-Si-Te INTJ: Ni-Te-Fi-Se
Te/Fi
Te is charismatic. It’s a confident problem solving function. It allows the Te user to quickly size up a situation and see a solution and take charge. They know how to slip into a persona and work a crowd and can give brilliant presentations. They’re brilliant in arguments. And yeah, some may act like they know everything and they really don’t, but there’s something kinda hot about someone who always seems to know who they are and where they’re going.
Fi is passionate, resilient, and steady. There’s something about them that comes off as child-like, most likely the result of their Ne or Se. A happy Fi user often seems playful, soft, and fluffy. Fi has an edge, however. While they can take a lot, they all have values they would readily go to war for. Unlike Fe, which takes others into consideration, Fi users live by their own moral code, and if a value is violated, the Fi user must defend it at all costs. If that means hurting someone else, it’s a necessary sacrifice. Fi doms can be incredibly stubborn, uncooperative, and a bitter Fi dom can become paranoid, vengeful, and spiteful due to their permanent pessimism.
On top of that, Fi is a very “heads in the clouds” function; it’s concerned with theoretical morals, rather than practical day to day living. Fi doms handle details poorly, struggle to envision how to get from point A to point B, and live impulsively. It’s the polar opposite of Te, the most practical of the functions which thrives on efficiency. What happens when a bulldozer meets... a mountain? When a cut throat business man meets a dreaming artist?
You’d think it would be a disaster, but not quite. Every Te user also has Fi, and every Fi user also has Te. This creates a magnetic attraction between the two. Te, although the antithesis of Fi, has an inherent admiration for Fi. Te users like it when Fi users dig in their heels, even if the Fi user is being irrational. And while Fi is stubborn on certain matters, they really are usually more “path of least resistance” kind of people. They appreciate the direction and organization imposed by Te users. Te loves to help others organize themselves, and Fi users appreciate someone else handling the details. Te users may also take moral cues from the Fi user, leaning on their core strength.
Ni/Ne
Ni is an intense, analytical function, an abstract process that leads the Ni user to ideas and conclusions they can’t fully explain. Even if they can’t explain themselves, it rarely bothers them. Ni users have a tendency to trust their gut above all else, confident in their conclusions. And yeah, they’re not always right, even if they insist they are. Ni doms come off as reflective yet confident, and somewhat opinionated through their Te or Fe.
Ne is what I call a “fun” function, or an “entertainment” function. It thrives on a lot of stimulation. Ne doms tend to be mistaken for Se because of the way they refuse to sit still and are easily distracted by their environment. They’re happiest when taking in a lot of different inputs at once, leading them to multitask which yes, is inefficient and no, they do not care. The reason being: Ne’s worst nightmare is boredom. They will do anything to keep themselves entertained. For Ne, it is the quantity of ideas, not the quality, that keeps them happy. As long as they’re getting a steady influx of new ideas, or things that trigger new ideas, the Ne dom will be happy and entertained.
So what happens when Ni, the deep analytical pattern finder, meets Ne, the multitasking, easily influenced idea generator? It has its pros and cons. They’re absolutely hilarious together: Ne/Ni can appreciate the irony (more Ni) and absurdity (more Ne) in each other’s jokes. While Ni explanations tend to be convoluted and hard to understand, even by other Ni users, Ne just gets it, instantly. Their Ne allows them to follow new patterns easily. However, Ne are even more convoluted and impossible to follow through their bizarre leaps in logic, so it doesn’t go both ways every time. I don’t think this bothers Ne doms as much as Ni doms; Ni craves understanding and empathy. Ne is happy to listen.
While Ne is a super open minded function, Ni tends to be the opposite: very inwardly centered, stubborn and self assured. While Ne can easily see potential in many ideas, Ni believes in one true answer, one true pattern. This is the fundamental conflict between them. Ne often believes in unlimited answers and potential, contrasting sharply with Ni’s search for the one true pattern.
I know some Ni doms have described Ne doms as “stressful”. A classic disagreement is an Ni dom explaining one of their conclusions they’ve reached through weeks and months of analysis. The Ne dom feels a little uncomfortable by how sure the Ni dom sounds, and they play devil’s advocate. “Well, what about this—?” The Ni dom refutes it, but the Ne dom throws out another “exception.” The Ni dom starts to get frustrated, and the Ne dom becomes entertained as they fire out ideas. None of the ideas break the Ni dom’s pattern, however, because the Ni dom values quality over quantity and has spent a lot more time analyzing this pattern than the Ne dom. The Ne dom is making irrational connections that, upon closer examination, do not hold up well. But the Ne dom cares less about being right and more about the freedom to continue to make these connections. This can be very frustrating for both.
In some ways, Ni/Ne are an incredible fit, and in others, they clash. If they can respect creative differences, they can coexist peacefully.
Putting it All Together
I think INTJ/INFP is an awesome match. INTJ’s are attracted to Ne: they’re fun, they’re open minded, they love intuitive conversation, but I think sometimes dom Ne is too much of a clash with INTJ’s dom Ni. That’s why they might get along better with INxP’s, who have auxiliary Ne instead of dominant Ne. They get all the pros—empathy, common sense of humor—with less of the clashing: the INFP might lay off a teensy bit on the Ne need to defend limitless ideas.
And INTJ’s get Fi as their third function, meaning many develop it much earlier and more deeply than ENTJ’s will. This Te/Fi balance makes the INTJ decisive, confident problem solvers accented by strong values. The way I see Fi manifest in a lot of INTJ’s is they’ll be unexpectedly, incredibly kind and gentle and considerate. Even though they seem sarcastic and uncaring when they’re leading with Te/Ni, it’s just a front for how caring and sensitive they are if the INTJ has developed and uses Fi as integral core of their being. It’s like this soft, marshmallow center. (Contrast this to INFJ’s, who can be almost steely in their impersonal, logical Ti core). This visible Fi underneath the hard Te exterior can be extremely attractive to Fi doms, who are attracted to strong values and caring people. INTJ’s are also less likely than ENTJ’s to get impatient with INFP’s Fi.
Room for conflict? INTJ’s are going to need Fi developed to really appreciate INFP’s strengths. They’re going to have to be okay with the INFP’s somewhat inefficient and sometimes absurd way of surviving. INTJ’s are also not the most cuddly, soft people, so INFP’s should be aware that there might be a difference in how affection is expressed. INFP’s would do well to work on their Si/Te to appreciate the INTJ’s strengths as well. If they’re both appreciative and respectful of each other, it’s a great match.
What really makes the pairing so great is neither dominant function is pitted against an opposite dominant function. Fi/Ni compliiment, and Te/Ne get along well. To me, this works better than a Fi/Te dom or Ni/Ne dom relationship.
In terms of introversion and extroversion, INTJ’s can come off as more extroverted in public from their Te but INFP’s can hang around people longer if they’re tapped into their Ne. I think an ENFP would be a little too extroverted for an INTJ in some cases. Honestly though, introversion and extroversion varies so much from person to person.
Given both are mature and willing, INFP and INTJ is an awesome match.
How Kundli Matching Can Influence Your Marriage Compatibility
Marriage, a union of two souls, is a significant event in one's life journey. In Indian culture, the practice of Kundli matching holds immense importance, guiding families and individuals in assessing the compatibility between prospective partners before they tie the knot. Let's delve into how Kundli matching influences marriage compatibility and why it remains relevant in contemporary times.
Understanding Kundli Matching
Kundli matching, also known as horoscope matching, is rooted in ancient Vedic astrology principles. It involves a detailed analysis of the birth charts (kundlis) of the bride and groom to determine their compatibility across various aspects of life. The process primarily focuses on:
Guna Milan: This aspect evaluates 36 points (gunas) based on the positioning of the moon in both birth charts. These points are distributed across eight parameters, including temperament (Gana), mental compatibility (Graha Maitri), and physical compatibility (Yoni), among others. A higher score indicates better compatibility between the prospective partners.
Mangal Dosha: Mangal Dosha, or the influence of Mars in the birth chart, is another critical consideration. It is believed that individuals with Mangal Dosha may face challenges in marital harmony unless matched with a similarly afflicted partner or appropriate remedial measures are taken.
Dashas and Mahadashas: These refer to planetary periods and sub-periods that influence different aspects of life, including marriage. Kundli matching considers the timing and influences of these periods to predict compatibility and the potential challenges couples might face.
Significance of Kundli Matching
Predicting Longevity and Harmony: Kundli matching aims to predict the longevity and harmony of the marital relationship by analyzing the alignment of celestial bodies in the birth charts. It provides insights into potential areas of compatibility and areas that may require attention.
Cultural and Traditional Relevance: Kundli matching is deeply ingrained in Indian cultural beliefs and traditions. It offers reassurance and confidence to families and individuals by aligning with traditional practices, ensuring that the union is supported by astrological considerations.
Psychological and Emotional Compatibility: Beyond astrological aspects, Kundli matching also assesses psychological and emotional compatibility between partners. Factors such as temperament, attitudes towards life, and mutual understanding are crucial in fostering a harmonious relationship.
Modern Perspectives
While Kundli matching remains a revered practice, modern interpretations emphasize the integration of personal compatibility, shared values, and effective communication in sustaining a fulfilling marital bond. Many couples today choose to blend traditional astrological insights with contemporary relationship dynamics to make informed decisions about their future together.
Conclusion
Kundli matching serves as a guiding tool, offering a holistic perspective on marriage compatibility that blends ancient wisdom with practical considerations. By understanding the nuances of each partner's birth chart, families and individuals can embark on their marital journey with greater confidence and clarity. Ultimately, while Kundli matching provides valuable insights, nurturing a strong and loving relationship requires mutual respect, understanding, and commitment from both partners.
The Science Behind Kundli Matching: Astrological Perspectives
Kundli matching, or horoscope matching, is a cornerstone of Indian astrology, playing a pivotal role in assessing the compatibility of prospective marriage partners. This practice blends ancient wisdom with cultural traditions, offering insights into the suitability of partners. At its core, Kundli matching involves the detailed analysis of birth charts (Kundlis) to evaluate the potential success and harmony of a marriage. Let's delve into the science and astrological perspectives behind this age-old practice.
Understanding Kundli Matching
1. Birth Charts (Kundli): Kundlis are intricate diagrams mapping the positions of celestial bodies at the time of an individual's birth. These charts serve as the foundation of astrological readings, believed to influence various aspects of a person's life, including personality, behavior, and destiny.
2. Compatibility Factors:
Guna Milan: A central aspect of Kundli matching, Guna Milan involves analyzing compatibility based on 36 points (gunas). These points are derived from various elements of the birth charts, such as the moon sign, ascendant, and planetary positions, particularly Mars and Venus. A higher Guna score indicates better compatibility.
Mangal Dosha: This refers to the placement of Mars in specific houses of the birth chart. Depending on its placement, Mars can significantly impact marital life. The presence of Mangal Dosha is believed to bring challenges in marriage, which can be mitigated through specific remedies and rituals.
Ashtakoot Compatibility: This method involves matching birth charts based on eight parameters or "kootas," including Varna (caste), Vashya (mutual attraction), Tara (birth star), Yoni (nature and characteristics), and more. Each koota assesses different aspects of compatibility, contributing to a comprehensive evaluation.
3. Astrological Considerations: Astrologers take into account various factors such as planetary influences, houses (bhavas), and aspects (drishti) when assessing compatibility. Key planets like Venus (symbolizing love and romance), Mars (representing energy and assertiveness), and Jupiter (signifying wisdom and prosperity) play crucial roles in determining the overall harmony and success of a marriage.
Perspectives and Criticism
While Kundli matching holds deep cultural significance, it also faces scrutiny and criticism from various perspectives:
Scientific Skepticism: Critics argue that Kundli matching lacks empirical evidence and scientific backing, questioning its validity and efficacy. The principles of astrology are often seen as pseudoscientific by the scientific community.
Psychological Impact: Some suggest that an over-reliance on Kundli matching can lead to undue stress and influence decision-making in ways that might not always be beneficial. It's important for individuals to balance astrological advice with personal insights and mutual understanding.
Embracing Tradition and Wisdom
Despite the criticisms, Kundli matching continues to be an integral part of Indian culture, reflecting the enduring belief in cosmic influences on human life. It offers a unique blend of tradition and wisdom, providing a framework for evaluating marital compatibility.
Conclusion
Kundli matching blends ancient wisdom with cultural traditions, playing a vital role in assessing marital compatibility. While it faces scientific skepticism, its value in Indian society remains significant.For personalized astrological consultations, visit SwatiSurbhiAstro.com. Embrace the insights of astrology for a harmonious and fulfilling relationship.
Could I ask your thoughts on thief of blood <> thief of breath? Or just like any pairing that’s same class with opposite aspects?
For any moirallegiance that’s the same class with opposite aspects, they would likely be good at balancing each other out and preventing them from being too caught up in their aspect. They might even be able to help each other understand their opposite aspect. However, they could also risk focusing too much on their own aspect and having trouble understanding each other. They might even try to make the other see from their perspective too often. If you were curious for other pairing types, matesprits would be similar whereas in a kismesis they would challenge each other via their opposite aspects.
Specifically for Thief of Blood <> Thief of Breath, they would likely be a close duo taking on many tasks together, perhaps even leading a group or movement together. The Thief of Blood could easily steal things like guilt from their partner while relocating support to them, making them a good shoulder to lean on. Meanwhile, the Thief of Breath could steal detachment from their partner and relocate freedom to them, helping them loosen up and enjoy themselves. As they are both Thieves, they might understand each other’s personas well, allowing each other to just be themselves together. However, both can also risk losing patience and stubbornly pushing their own views. Overall, they’re likely to be seen by others as a chaotic duo who will push their way into certain positions together, while providing support and opening up to each other in private.
how would a pairing between a female scorza and male gemittarius go? [vascillating between kismesissitude and matespriteship]
additionally the scorza is a maid and the gemittarius a heir!
The Scorza and Gemittarius likely naturally challenge each other, competing when it comes to things like intelligence and working on puzzles, as well as engaging in debates. When they’re pitch this is a healthy rivalry, and when they’re flushed they likely combine their ambitions together. At times they might fight a bit dirty, with the Heir changing Void to blind the Maid, and the Maid willing to create believable lies - therefore, they must be careful not to go too far in this. However, she is also likely to make great decisions when it comes to romance and the use of logic in this situation doesn’t turn the Heir away, but rather he enjoys it. The Gemittarius may also thrive in the confusion others get if they don’t realise their relationship is vascillating.
One issue they might experience is that they’ve likely both built up walls and won’t always willing communicate with each other. This is where the Heir may have a strength in this relationship, as he can change secrecy so they can better open up to each other. Because of this, they are more likely to show the pitch side of their relationship around others and keep the flushed side to themselves in private. Overall, the relationship might be high energy and they may struggle to find balance, but it can also provide passion and is a place where they can combine ambition and love without sacrificing either.
Person who asked about the compatibility godtiers thing here! was wondering if you could do one between a thief of breath and an heir of blood and or an heir of blood and a knight of life? Thanks in advance!! :D
Np! Here it is. ^^
Thief of Breath & Heir of Blood:
Matesprits: The Heir is likely a natural romantic, with the Thief easily ‘taking their breath away’. However, the Heir may romanticize a false idea of the Thief, rather than see them for who they truly are. The Heir would be quick to become deeply committed to their matespritship, whereas the Thief may have difficulty with accepting that level of commitment so soon. It is likely what the Thief secretly craves though and they may be able to give just as easily as they take in the relationship with time.
Moirails: The Thief risks becoming too controlling in the belief they know best how to direct the Heir. However, they could be helpful in holding the Heir back from making decisions without thinking properly. Likewise, the Heir would be naturally good at working around the Thief’s defence systems and providing them stability. The Heir risks either messing around with the Thief’s friendships too much or becoming distracted by their own and forgetting to focus on their moirallegiance.
Kismesis: They would be likely to form a pitch relationship based on their different opinions surrounding friendship and leadership. This is likely to create a healthy rivalry where they both attempt to prove themselves as good leaders, attempting to win others over to their causes/ideas. It could risk becoming unhealthy in two ways: either they take trying to sabotage each other too far or they begin to mess with each other’s other relationships.
Heir of Blood & Knight of Life:
Matesprits: The Heir is likely to view their matesprit as a ‘knight in shining armour’, believing they can free them from any restrictions they feel too caught up in. The Knight would likely take pride in this, and though this could be beneficial to them, does risk the relationship becoming unbalanced. If they do find balance, the relationship would likely be quite passionate and vibrant, and the Heir would learn it is just as romantic for them to be the Knight’s source of protection and stability too.
Moirails: Their moirallegiance would be similar to their matespritship, though with more focus on stability than passion. The Heir could help the Knight feel safe in being vulnerable and maskless, with the Knight also learning it is okay for them to be grounded at times. The Knight would be able to encourage the Heir to stand up for themselves and would be a healing presence. They both risk neglecting their moirallegiance, as the Heir may turn to other relationships and the Knight may feel trapped in it.
Kismesis: The Knight may become jealous of how easily the Heir can connect with other people and exist without a mask, whereas the Heir may hate how the Knight seems to live so carefree and yet still have people turning to them for protection. This kismesissitude would likely be full of snide remarks and jabs at one another. Therefore, they risk hitting truly vulnerable points and making the relationship bad for their mental health rather than a rivalry encouraging growth.
I was wondering if you do compatibility analysis between godtiers? Like as an example i send you two godtiers and then you would tell me how they would work together/what quadrant they'd work best in?
I personally believe that's dependent on many more factors than just classpect, especially since people with different personalities can share the same classpect. However, I'm very willing to discuss possibilities - therefore, I may not be able to tell you exactly what quadrant they work best in but rather how a relationship may look in each quadrant for them, including both how it may be healthy or unhealthy (minus auspistice if it's only two godtiers). If you're interested in that, I'd be happy to help. Otherwise I'll happily find blogs that do the kind of compatibility analysis you're looking for and direct you to them.
Pandit Ravi Kant Shastri will create your compatibility analysis report for you and your partner according to your requirement. This report is very important before marriage.
