Just had a guy try to condesplain corn snake motley and stripe to me. This guy specializes in motleys as a breeder, too. Unfortunately for him... he didn't read the thread and missed a key fact that resulted in him looking absolutely fucking stupid.
To summarize/explain:
OP relays that mom snake was purchased as a tessera. 16 eggs hatched, no tesseras but one stripe and 2 motleys are present. Meaning 13 babies were normal patterned (important).
A picture of mom was provided, showing that she is visually a motley. Because she produced a striped baby, that means genetically she is a motley-stripe (motley and stripe share the same spot in the genome. They are allelic to each other.) In a genetic motley-stripe the motley gene completely masks the stripe gene and the animal will look like a motley. The stripe gene has no effect on the motley pattern at all.
Because normal babies were produced, we know that the dad is not a motley or a stripe because otherwise every baby in the clutch would be a visual motley or stripe. Visual motley to visual motley, visual motley to stripe, and stripe to stripe cannot, genetically, produce offspring with a normal pattern (barring extremely rare genetic fuckery. We're keeping things neat here)
Because a stripe baby was produced, we know the dad must be carrying *one* copy of the stripe gene. As he *only* has a stripe gene to offer to his offspring, the motley patterned babies are actually genetic motley-stripes. And all the normal patterned babies in this current clutch are either het motley OR stripe but NOT both, thanks to mom.
I informed OP of this in a similar fashion and said that if paired to a stripe the dad will only be able to produce normal patterned and striped babies.
Then comes in
Mr. Motley
"If the dad is motley/stripe paired with a stripe he would still produce motleys and stripes..Motley is dominant to stripe in the gene pool..Matter fact if he bred the stripe and carried no stripe he would produce all motley babies het stripe..(motley/stripes) ..The motley babies do seem to come out with a lot of striping.."
to which I responded:
"The dad isn't a motley. Only 2 motleys and the one stripe were produced.
to quote OP: "only 3 aren’t the wild-type pattern haha"..."
Don't fucking try to mansplain genetics to me that I relayed correctly when you can't be arsed to read the discussion actually happening.
