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You sure get a lot of self-righteous, pretentious femdroids trying to "educate" you today, huh?
Hahaha, it seems like it's never ending. I'm trying to get poor Benjamin a bug in Animal Crossing but some of these anons are just too funny to pass up. The poor little dude has been waiting like 20 mins now. :'(
just-djata replied to your post: can someone recommend so...
-Saga -Locke & Key -American Vampire
convertedinvader replied to your post “can someone recommend some comics to me Non Marvel or DC is preferred...”
Assuming you haven't read it yet, Neil Gaiman's Sandman is a must-read.
erogecchi replied to your post “can someone recommend some comics to me Non Marvel or DC is preferred...”
Invincible (Image Comics)
terribletriplefeatures replied to your post “can someone recommend some comics to me Non Marvel or DC is preferred...”
Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye is the greatest comic no one is reading. Don't worry, you don't need to know anything about Transformers. Also, Saga, Invincible, and Locke & Key are also great starts.
Aaaah yes, a lot of great names here, most of which I've meant to read or have been told to read in the past. But now I am on a mission to actually get the reading done, so thank you all! And keep the titles coming, there's no reason to stop now!
Do you even realize that that list you cited as "an MRA page" is actually satirical, attempting to make fun of the MRM?
yep... Was going to do what they did, but seems like they did if for me. To me all of the arguments are very contradictory. And when feminists get what they are fighting for the chain reaction will happen and as far as I am concerned those issues are all linked to it, therefore they will be affected too.
But going to look into mrm cause it is a new term for me, and i love learning and hearing different point of views and ideas!
I appear to be alone in the chat which is fine except it negates the point.
forgetting to login for a bit does that I guess.
Greetings. The post that describes feminism as genocidal is on my blog, so I figured I'd explain its circumstances (although they are explained in the post itself, but some clarification can never hurt). The Agent Orange Files are a collection of screenshots from the Radfem Hub private forum. The "agent" who gathered them also did extensive research on the identity of the contributors, and revealed that a good number of them is in fact influential (Harriet Harman is one of them, for example).
ugh, I have so little patience for this cloak and daggers bullshit. For one thing, I don't know why anyone is treating this as an "investigation" when it's pretty obviously someone taking screenshots of blog conversations that are not important or "secret" enough for the participants to have taken the time to make sure someone couldnt' come and screencap their arguments? They must have gone really undercover to get that story
Second, I hate it when people supposedly have access to "mind blowing information" and then make you download THOUSANDS OF PAGES in order to access this information. Literally, there is no limit to how many examples you could have put in a tumblr post. Instead, you put some up that in no way make your argument, you don't state whom the "influential people" are even though that could be easily fit onto a blog page, and you don't even clearly state what it is you think is in the files, knowing that the majority of people, like myself, are not going to want to download a huge amount of information (and go through 1,500 documents?? If you had a point, post the top 15!). I originally assumed these files were at LEAST anti-trans* since that's always been a legit critique of rad-fem. Instead, it's "omg they're planning to kill and enslave men" because of course that's really possible and likely in America 2013.
Second, there is no whistle blowing going on. Most feminists who do not identify as rad-fem are aware that rad-fem ideology is not something we always agree with. Rad-Fem simply EXISTING does not mean they control or have much say over feminist discourse overall. To act as if I am some unknowing puppet of larger forces is treating me like a child and not a cognizant adult.
the average members are every bit as misled and blinded by propaganda as the casual observer, unaware of just what they actually support.
If 99.9% of republicans do not believe being a republican is about being a communist, but .1% do and some of the .1% hold vaguely influential roles in local gov't, is the republican party suddenly "actually supporting" communism without being aware of it? No- the fringe group is fringe only, and their ideology is uniquely their own. They might be communist-republicans but their identity does not define all republicans just because they exist.
So let me extrapolate how that works for feminism. 99.9% do not agree with rad-fem ideology or the stuff you posted which I don't even think many rad-fems would actually agree with since "kill all alpha men and keep a few as reproductive slaves" is not a big motto in their community- it is a willful strawman stereotype of the feminist cause because it allows people to quickly de-legitimize the movement. Even rad-fem deserve that their arguments be presented as they are, not as people pretend them to be. Taking a few screenshots of people who are obviously not very representative of their overall stance is deliberately taking advantage of the fact that most people are not very familiar with rad-fem discourse.
Moving on to how it makes even LESS sense than republicans, feminism does NOT have central leaders or anyone in charge giving orders. The idea that I, along with 99% of feminists, could be following an ideology without knowing I'm even following it makes very little sense, since it simply is not a part of the feminism I learn or teach. "Harriet Harman" doesn't send out secret messages to the feminist community where every third line is a cue to kill men. Your argument only makes sense if the leaders you refer to- who are not, by the way, feminist leaders but simply people at random who happen to identify as feminists- supposedly- have a way of giving that message to other feminists. They don't, and it doesn't happen. And when we come to all the big names in feminism- and there are a lot of them, and they are the people who would have the most influence over feminist ideology- I might not agree with everything they say, but they don't say anything as far out as any of your quoted blogs, and I seriously doubt they're any of the names listed in your "extensive research."
I'm just pissed that this is even a thing especially because you COMPARED IT TO GENOCIDE ARE YOU KIDDING ME DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THAT IS NOT YOUR FEAR MONGERING WORD TO APPLY WHERE EVER YOU LIKE IT regardless of how much you hate feminism, so I'll continue. Harriet Harman? Really? She's not even from this country, for one, and while feminism isn't limited to any place, it's certainly odd to critique the american branch of it by pulling in someone else? She's a British Labour Politician- is that suddenly a euphemism for feminism because otherwise I would say feminism doesn't focus so intently on social hierarchy? I have 10,000+ followers and my last job was working as a Target cashier? Why didn't you post, then, the posts by her because they'd certainly be more convincing than the farces you did screencap? And the fact that she's in parliament makes it really easy to see how far this "genocide of alpha men" is playing out- has she passed bills or whatever advocating for all men to be rounded up and shot? Nope? Not even one? Not even writing a little line in some official document to start things going? Good point then I guess talking in a web forum is "tantamount to genocide now" actually PEOPLE DYING AND BEING TORTURED is tantamount to genocide. Not idle chatter in an internet forum.
Let's look at your whistle blowing mind blowing screen caps:
first one: their profile EVEN SAYS they're a newbie to whatever forum they're in. What is that proof of? Not only do people often say ridiculous things, but people often troll pretending to be anti-men feminists in order to bait MRAs into reacting. Which wow, do they ever I guess. And not to mention, NOTHING about this post was even remotely genocide- it advocated for helping women separate from men. Is that an odd viewpoint? Yes. Is it killing anyone or likely to kill anyone? No. If these shots are really the gold of your collection, well.
second screenshot: the subject is "baboons vs. binobos" ...I have only the implication because you included it, that they are discussing something other than non-human animals here??? nothing in the post compels me to really believe otherwise, the very first line quoting the documentary indicates as much. And watching a documentary about chimps and saying "males are the problem at the end" does not a genocide make.
Third: The next post is more clearly referring to humans, yet still fails to "shock" me- if there were no implication of this all being "radical planning for killing men," I would assume it is not serious discussion. A lot of feminists do make jokes about their stereotypes. Even rad-fem might do it. And again, for delving deeeeep into the secrets of a radfem hub, this is also a newbie user. I start to have the feeling anyone could have logged into this discussion and private is really pushing the definition of how public it was.
Fourth: Your next screenshot is a rando discussion of "curing people of having a chromosome so that they stop being men" which I can guarantee you is 100% not medically possible so this person is unlikely to be anyone with access to bio-engineering in the first place. And you didn't even bother to cite where it's coming from or who said it. A real danger to men everywhere, I'm sure.
But while so far, I was under the impression (or should I say bought into the propaganda) that feminism in general isn’t deliberately evil as much as misguided, somewhat selfish and hijacked by people with their own agenda of supremacy, these documents have succesfully dispelled that illusion and revealed that what appears to be fringe extremism is actually carefully and deliberately orchestrated by a select group of women in socially influential positions, and their goals are admittedly tantamount to genocide.
For real, if these "documents" were enough to convince you that any of this isn't fringe extremism, or that any of this in anyway resembles "careful and deliberate orchestration" (not a single document you posted up indicates any sort of orchestration or anything other than talk, actually- orchestration involves even a modicum of planning) then I think you need to re-evaluate how biased you were against feminism to begin with. I would say you were basically frothing at the bit to "bring it down" if any of these seems more potentially powerful to you than a bunch of bored women watching chimp movies and making idle discussion about man-"enslavement."
Nice try guy-who-uses-guy-fawkes-as-his-background, better luck next time
convertedinvader reblogged your post: chrisfuckingjericho reblogged your post: Die-hard...
Nice of you to admit that you’re incapable of carrying on with the debate and need someone more competent to take over....
Believe what your fragile male ego needs to believe. It's more that men's time is less valuable (and you're making yourself a perfect example), so they can respond to your tired bullshit. I've got better things to do with my time.
convertedinvader reblogged your post: Die-hard MRAs aren’t worth the time it would take...
the fact that all your points were blasted to fucking oblivion.
hahahaahahahaha
convertedinvader thinks my knowing that his head is so far up his ass that it comes out his mouth and is stuck up his ass again, and is wedged in way more than I could remove
equals him winning the argument.
hahahahahahahahaha
Believe what you want to believe, MRA scumfuck. I know your fragile male ego needs protecting.
