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[tangledbea]

Rapunzel concept art from “Disney Sketchbook S1Ep4: Peter Pan | Captain Hook” by Jin Kim

[runningracingdancingchasing]

I found a few different explorations I did for this shot and thought it would be fun to show my process. Some of the ideas are super rough but I remember wanting to just quickly map out the different possibilities ~Hyrum Osmond

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It reminds me of the concept art drawn by Jin Kim!

[andreagulli]

Studying Hiro

[tangledbea]

Someone asked a question about what you would change from the movie and one of them was to give Rapunzel a crossbow. Was Rapunzel supposed to get a crossbow? Some of the toy merch for the series had a floral bow and arrow set that NEVER appeared in the show either. Was Rapunzel learning archery a scrapped concept?

Oh, my darling, my love. I will be glad to show you.

Rapunzel with a crossbow comes from the pre-Eugene version of the movie. The one being directed by Glen Keane, with Bastion as the male lead.

Art by Dan Cooper

Art by Dan Cooper

Art by Jin Kim

So, yes, there was a point in this movie's production where Rapunzel defended the tower with a crossbow rather than a frying pan.

And then, as you mention, there's merch from the series of a carved and painted bow.

Art by Heather Chavez

The thing is, there is so much very specific detail on this - like the deer and bird on the quiver, that it’s difficult for me to think that this design did not come from the series production team. While I have no confirmation of this, I highly suspect they wanted her to have a bow of her own, and Disney told them no. I do know that they were only allowed to have her hold a sword in the series if she wasn't actively using it against a person at the time. (Yes, she could be holding it with intent to use, but not actually be seen swinging it on camera at a person. I have a gifset showcasing all the times she held a sword.) So it's not a far stretch to think that they intended to give her a bow, even had a toy designed for it, then were ultimately denied by the higher ups. But toys often get put into production before things get changed in the media the toy represents, and then released anyway.

[tangledbea]

Who is bastion, was that the original name for before Eugene/Flynn Ryder

Bastion is not the same person as Eugene, though he was the male lead in previous (but not all) versions of the story. He has two different designs, depending upon which point of development you're looking at.

Disney's version of Rapunzel was in some stage of development beginning in 1996 and didn't really begin development as the movie we know until 2008 when Glen Keane and Dean Wellins stepped down as directors due to Glen having a heart attack. It was given to Byron Howard and Nathan Greno (with Glen staying on as executive producer) and took shape as Tangled at that time.

Bastion, as mentioned before, exists in two iterations. You have Glen Keane's Bastion

And then you have the Bastion who was based off of Johnny Depp and was in development (according to one of the images below) in 2006.

All above art by Jin Kim

I actually got insight into the first Bastion, or "Bear Flynn," as he was nicknamed by fans, from an animator who worked on it. Everything I know about him can be found in this post. And yes, his design did later go on to influence Kristoff's design.

As for the second Bastion, or "Johnny Bastion," as he is sometimes called, I know very little about the story at this point of development. We have a handful of concept art of him leaning on stuff and holding a strand of Rapunzel's hair. In 2005, Glen Keane was having difficulty working with what Michael Eisner wanted the Rapunzel story to be. But in 2006, when John Lasseter took over, one of the first thing he did was restart the Rapunzel project with Glen and encourage him to do what he wanted with it. That is, I believe, when Johnny Bastion was developed, so he actually predates Bear Flynn Bastion.

We actually have a decent idea of most of the plot of Glen Keane's version of the story, between concept art and animator interviews. It wasn't until Nathan and Byron took over the project that Eugene took shape as he is now (after the infamous Hot Man Meeting).

[tangledbea]

hey bex! considering you’ve read the art of encanto, how many artists did you notice that worked on both the movie & tangled? obviously byron howard was one of the directors, but I’ve seen concept art floating around done by jin kim - were they the only ones? :)

Byron Howard and Jin Kim, yes. And there are others. I'll show a well-know piece of each of the artists' name that I recognized.

There's Scott Watanabe

Bill Schwab

Dan Cooper

Mark Kennedy, in storyboards

and last, but certainly not least, Jenessa Warren who worked, not on Tangled the movie, but Tangled: the Series

Granted, not all these names appear in The Art of Encanto, I definitely looked some stuff up on IMdb, and I bet they share more crew, but those are the names that I knew for sure.

[tangledbea]

Stuff like the bow and arrow toy is exactly why I think one of New Dream's kids should have a crossbow

Why not a long bow?

Art by Jin Kim

[tangledbea]

So this is kind of a morbid question, and I apologise in advance, but, in the movie, when Gothel was pulling her hood over her head... do you think that could have started to turn that part of her into dust before she actually became dust?? You know, given how hard she was pulling on her hood, coupled with the fact that we couldn't see it AND she was completely dust by the time she hit the ground??? 1/2

I'm sorry, this question has been bugging me for a long time, and I'm wondering if I can get second opinion :) 2/2

No, not at all. She pulled her hood over her head because she couldn't stand to see her own age. (Plus, I'm pretty sure it was done, at least in part, to keep the rating low, since rapid aging is a form of body horror.)

I don't personally feel that any part of her was dust so long as she was still screaming and stumbling around. To be dust is to be completely dead and gone.

In fact, while they went with a different character design in the movie, Jin Kim did to a rapid aging study for her: