this may sound crazy, even the team said that this is just a poster. But to me as a fander in 2025, this is not a joke anymore when janus got accepted.
please someone bring back that crayon theory now
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this may sound crazy, even the team said that this is just a poster. But to me as a fander in 2025, this is not a joke anymore when janus got accepted.
please someone bring back that crayon theory now
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I'M JUST SAYING
*sitting and pondering the orange side like all good Fanders* (these are purely running, “out loud” thoughts… take of em what you will, spoilers for WTIT)
This is very long and convoluted but I eventually conclude on an alternative to the Orange = Wrath theory…
If we’re to believe that the “dark sides” except for Virgil have been foils to the current sides… Creativitwins with their green and red… Patton who was replaced by Janus, and now colour wheel complements Logan and Orange… then we all are kinda following the same line of thought that it’s MCU villain style ie the hero and the villain have similar power sets but different aesthetic..
Roman and Remus being the clearest example. Both brilliantly creative but Roman seeking more conventional creativity that ensures positive acclaim vs Remus’s bizarre, unconventional and uncomfortable creativity that sometimes produces brilliance like in WTIT with his Rube Goldberg traps…
Yknow. Colour-wise… primary colours: Red, Yellow, Blue… mix colours: Purple, Orange, Green… and then there’s the oh so legendary crayon theory with the broken blue… which I always thought rep’d Patton and Logan since they were the mind and heart? And so are connected… if anything pre-Remus, I might’ve thought Patton and Logan were twins…
Which leaves Janus. A “dark side”. He’s the remaining primary colour. If we follow this idea, shouldn’t Janus be one of the core four and not Virge? But then this comes through as what Thomas prioritises value-wise, as well as self-preservation reasons and his mental state…
But Janus being the original 4th and having clear control over the other sides and being sitting in that tree like he knows all and hides these deep dark secrets kinda makes sense?
And his direct colour complement on the wheel is Virgil? So this lends further credence to the idea that they actually should be swapped… but Virgil’s presence in Thomas’s mindscape is prolly too big to ignore or suppress and so Janus, like the snek he is, operates behind the scenes… I know he replaced Patton first, but Patton has since leaned towards accepting Janus for various reasons, and in general he isn’t hostile towards Janus? At least not in the same way as the others.
Honestly I still hold the idea that Logan and Patton are the true foils. As has been established in the past. And yknow crayon theory.
But then Orange is Logan’s current aggressor. And pulling it back to villains with the heroes power set, then it stands to reason that Orange is something very similar to Logan.
I know the predominant theory is Wrath. Anger, as it were. But if we consider: Creativity, Logic, Morality, Anxiety, Deceit, Intrusive Thought… except for maybe Anxiety, the other sides aren’t so heavily referential to an emotion, and describe a function. Even Anxiety is something of a function and mental and bodily response that is particularly heightened c!Thomas… ie Fight or Flight. Which is why I’m hesitant to confirm it is Wrath. Even though there is certainly strong merit.
There’s other theories that to complement Logan, Orange is Ignorance or more likely, the feeling of being ignored. Someone mentioned Injustice, and the righteous anger that often accompanies it.
I was thinking something along the lines of Control or Accountability… maybe too on the nose… Maybe it’ll even be a softer concept than Wrath but is able to stir up strong emotions as a result. Since Logan is the least flashy side, what if Orange is the least flashy dark side? Like his presence can certainly cause explosive reactions but he himself doesn’t do much…Maybe Disappointment?
What I’m leaning the most towards is Irrationality
Which would make the perfect foil to Logic. Logan is all about proving things through facts and best practice. He says he doesn’t have emotions. And yet he is prone to explosive outbursts of rage and anger when he feels ignored or insulted or looked down on.
Irrationality could be a bit more subtle and also work hand in hand with Intrusive Thought. Logic says there’s no reason to get angry. Irrationality says there is.
Logan says that Thomas will definitely listen to him one day!
Irrationality whispers in his ear that he never will.
And Irrationality having an influence on the others? Irrationality exacerbating both Remus and Virgil’s powers over Thomas’s psyche? Irrationality compelling Thomas to turn to Deceit aka Janus for help? Irrationality playing into Patton’s desperation to hide in memories and nostalgia and the past? Irrationality playing up every single one of Roman’s securities and desperation to prove himself?
I’d have to think on him in a more positive skew. Like being irrational can get Thomas to push the boundaries, stand up for himself maybe. I’m not sure yet. Would deffo play into the Love side because sometimes Love is irrational!
I think Orange is Irrationality.
We took a while to get to this conclusion but methinks this is it.
Nah because y’all ain’t even talking about how we were right 🖐😭
Do you think there will be a pink side? - ☔
Oh boy... Good ol’ pink side....
I used to be a huge supporter of the crayon theory which revolved around a poster of patton containing multiple different crayons in the background. There are 7 crayons: a red, yellow, purple, broken blue, orange, green, and pink. I assumed that Patton didnt get a crayon because he was already in the poster, so the blue crayon must have just represented Logan. But there was obviously a pink crayon, so that lead me to believe there would also be a pink side.
As time went on, I drifted away from this idea. Mostly because I think the rainbow theory makes more sense and because Thomas is aleady represented as pink in lots of different way (ie: the character Thomas shirt in which their are 7 flowers on the front, one of each color of the rainbow, and a pink flower on the shoulder to represent Thomas). Also it wouldnt make a whole lot of sense to have more dark sides than light sides, and adding pink would bring the dark sides numbers up to 4 (5 if you include virgil).
That brings us to current day though... And honestly I have no idea what to believe anymore. I’m pretty sure we’ll only have 7 sides, but in POF, text during one of the video game sequences says “Thomas = 8” and that little bit of information has given me high blood pressure since I noticed it.
Basically: I don’t think there is a pink side, but I have no explaination for the hints that have been given to prove otherwise.
Okay not to be that one person digging up the old theories BUT crayon theory- Patton snapped. It was Patton’s poster and a blue crayon. Patton snapped this episode!!
NEW THEORY ON THE CRAYONS:
The split crayon is like that because there are two blue sides: Logan & Patton
See how the yellow crayon is with our little group of red, blue and purple? Deceit will be there more often. ( Lying can be good! In certain situations).
Separated from the group happen to be Remus and our other unknown other side/s- this tells me that they're the not good aspects of Thomas.
Basically we've got Logan, Patton, Roman, Virgil and Deceit, Our little group of good aspects!
Then there are Remus and the unknown who are the Not good aspects.
Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk
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