#creativered

[csmeanerr]

(regarding succubuNs transmed)

A user called CreativeRed was called out for purposefully misgendering users. CreativeRed then interacted with said blog.

People are upset because:

1. CreativeRed is a transmed, who has admitted he purposefully misgenders users because “their identities are harmful to the trans community”

2. CreativeRed is using being a stealth trans man as a reason to invalidate other trans people

3. CreativeRed has used a drama blog, which is a bannable offense

www(dot)tumblr(dot)com/ succubunsvent/733564546640494592/ screenshots-regarding-the-transmedicalist

www(dot)tumblr(dot)com/ succubunsvent/733613564147957760/ i-was-just-made-aware-im-being-namedropped-here

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.https://www.tumblr.com/succubunsvent/733564546640494592/screenshots-regarding-the-transmedicalist

.733613564147957760/ i-was-just-made-aware-im-being-namedropped-here

their profile in question as of 11/14/2023

[csmeaner]

CreativeRed is literally trying to trade a whole ass NINTENDO SWITCH for closed species, I'm killing myself

https://www.deviantart.com/creativered/journal/OPEN-Pop-Designs-Chams-Switch-Games-UFT-920180710

.https://archive.ph/GqDFN

truly fascinating

[csmeanerr]

For the love of god don’t post if anon fails but with regards to the creative red stuff I see where they’re coming from with pronouns. As a trans person myself I get verbal abuse daily from my immediate family who use it/its pronouns to degrade me because they think being transgender is “bullshit made up by people online” and just a phase I’m going through. I’ve had psychiatric appointments, medical counseling and therapy, and even had a psychiatric report diagnosing me with gender dysphoria among other mental illnesses to prove this is actually affecting my daily life.

When my psychiatrist talked to my parents about family counseling to help them understand my trans identity, my parents took me away from the psychiatrist for “enabling my delusions”. They throw out my opposite gendered clothing, they constantly raid my room looking for anything I’m hiding, and they make it a point to antagonize me by using the wrong pronouns because “if you’re not going to accept you’re born a girl and are a girl then you don’t deserve to be called anything.” Being referred to as it/its is incredibly dehumanizing and degrading and I don’t care if someone wants to be referred to that way, I don’t have it in me to strip a person of their status as a living being and demean them by addressing them like an inanimate object. It’s so uncomfortable and stressful and it feels awful.

I struggle heavily with nounself/emoji/neopronouns too because of my mental illnesses and learning disabilities since they break sentence structure and don’t flow properly or they have varying pronunciations/uses and it’s difficult to remember how things work. I wouldn’t interact with people either if I can’t address them in a way I can understand because if I mess up it’s going to be the end of my social life since me messing up is going to get me labeled as a bigot or a LGBTphobic jerk when I’m not. There is truth to them being rehashed “attack helicopter” memes too which ARE harmful to the trans community.

You might think your pronouns are easy to understand and not hurting anyone but that’s not true. They are. They’re not guaranteed to be easily understandable to every other person. You’re actually just complicating things more and giving other neurodivergent people an even harder time than they might already be having, which makes the situation and stress worse.

I’m sorry to add to this topic mod but this is a matter that personally affects me every day and it hurts a lot. I have a mental wellness clinic appointment in the new year to find a therapist and my family has already said they’ll call the cops and report my car as stolen if they believe I’m going to the appointment to discuss my trans identity issues or seeking aid with transitioning. The reason they think it’s all fake bullshit is because people claim being trans is a choice and they’ve seen the emoji/nounself/neopronouns and they don’t believe in it. My psychiatric report that I brought home was even shredded and thrown out because it used my preferred name and pronouns and thus was “filled with bullshit”. I know that I’m not the only one negatively affected by these things either.

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nope fuck off your issues does not allow you to invalidate other people and misgender them in turn. it/it may be dehumanizing to you but to someone else might be exactly what they want to be called, same as you want your own pronouns acknowledged.

the fact you go on an entire spiel of how much your family thinks you're full of bullshit and then turn around and say other's pronouns are "attack helicopter" memes is a bigoted take. in short it basically reads: my gender identity is valid but yours aren't

and you sure did type out that the only reason you hide these insanely awful takes is solely to keep your social standing and not that you actually give a fuck about changing your perspective because clearly you don't think other neurodivergents might experience themselves differently or deserve to be respected for those choices

every reason you brought up has been an issue for YOU that YOU are then making OTHERS put above their own validation for YOURSELF.

just fuck off. use people's fucking pronouns it's not that fucking hard to not be a complete shithead. the LGTBQA+ umbrella is larger than you think and you don't get to draw a line of what is or isn't under that umbrella. it's for all of us. stop being selfish.

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It was more than that, they openly are anti any neopronouns or non standard genders and say they’re “rebranded attack helicopter memes and harmful to the trans and neurodivergent communities” as if denying people their identities isn’t. Yknow. More harmful than anything lol

Yikes.

[toyhou-se-drama]

I’m gonna be honest I don’t think creativered’s issues were ban worthy. he’s annoying as shit don’t get me wrong. “I won’t use it its pronouns because of trauma” makes me cringe. but that’s a blockable instead of bannable offense methinks.

Who?

[csmeanerr]

If you look at other blogs, people are actually saying things about creativered such as "I hope he gets banned from other species" and nobody buy anything from him". I was silent before but I agree: this has turned into bullying. This is going beyond being mad for him not being banned.

yeah it's probably for the best to move on from this topic

[csmeanerr]

At the risk of people coming at me, I don't know if I entirely see the issue with creativered?

His views are obviously problematic and the wording is harsh, I'm not denying that, but from the profile text, it seems like he kinda does his best to mind his own business and avoids interacting with the people he wouldn't be comfortable calling by their pronouns so that he doesn't actually "have to" misgender anyone?

So... Are we angry not about people being actively misgendered by him (which I haven't actually heard of anyone saying he's done to them) - We're angry about the hypothetical misgendering he would do if he had to interact with someone who doesn't have a common set of pronouns? That seems a bit mild for the amount of harassment I've seen him get through the blogs. Like obviously that's not good either, I just don't know that I feel good about someone being met with this sheer amount of vitriol about something that I don't know has even happened yet.

I'm just not seeing a lot of constructive discussions, only a lot of (granted, understandable) anger, but some people are just being extremely hostile to someone who's already avoiding them and it's verging on bullying which I don't really think is the best course of action here tbh. I kinda worry that kinda response will just push someone further away from even wanting to try and understand.

And at the risk of sounding uneducated, this is a very genuine question, do you really have to use all of someone's pronouns all the time? Say if someone uses both they/them and it/its pronouns, and you choose to exclusively use they/them for that person, for whatever reason, be it discomfort or grammatical struggle or what, is that then misgendering? Because I thought unless someone outright states a preference, using multiple sets of pronouns means that those are all equally okay to use? Sorry, this is something I've been confused about for a while.

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its definitely a hotly discussed topic and i can only give my own opinions

bullying would be to go to him directly with the intent to cause harm be it mentally or emotionally and as far as im aware the only talk has been anons commenting on how his views have made them feel. i will never condone for anyone to bully/harass/witchhunt anyone on this blog

i can only speculate but i will say it is not misgendering to use exclusively they/them for someone who uses they/them/it/its pronouns because it's part of the pronouns they'd be comfortable with being called. it can be a case-by-case basis on which ones they'd prefer more so make sure to ask someone personally

i believe the problem lies in if someone's pronouns are only it/its or the emoji/aesthetic pronouns and creativered would then not use those pronouns out of his own comfort, even if it means misgendering someone and thus harming them in turn. you're correct that all of this is hypothetical and i don't think any evidence of it happening has come to pass, and it's good creativered has chosen to stay silent as i highly doubt any reply from him would be necessary or wanted

the main thing im focused on is more the fact creativered has sent an ask to a drama blog when succubun has blocked people for interacting with drama blogs. so why is creativered getting a pass? is it because he's a brownnoser and gives yves and luca a load of money? is it because they might share creativered's viewpoints? it could even be a mix of both but regardless both are a clear favoritism