#crime-soncloud

[betweenlands]

well I got an answer for why Cleo's treat Avid like that consistently

I gotta say this is a really cool concept for V!Cleo and I love how CC!Cleo has done this

it does mean that I now want V!Cleo to lose even more, I need the character to be thwarted and proven wrong by V!Avid (totally not because of my own unpredictability and mental health struggles mirroring how V!Avid has acted)

really funny that we gave the most sympathetic possible answer for vCleo bc we like them and desperately do not want her to become unfairly villainized in the same way that has been happening to vAvid for entirely too long. and then Real Life Meat Cleo immediately turned around and went "nope vCleo sucks and is being amoral about this" on bsky. 10/10 we are now praying for their downfall as well

[squishysphealgirl]

could yuo eat my learnlets so I'm dumb and stupid and silly... and then eat me? that would be nice :3

i will amass all of their and your knowledges #mypower #ourp

[correctproseka]

I gotta say. ichika v rui was a TOUGH matchup. two of the most autistic characters (imo) first round? damn

Take it up to the wheel, not me :(

[queersekai]

🔁 and transfemme please? :3

You rolled Rui!

[betweenlands]

what are your thoughts on V! Cleo after everything that was said and done this episode? especially in relation to V! Avid and all that

cause I love Zombie Cleo, the CC and person, they're an amazing cc and fantastic person all around. but V! Cleo is arguably the one member of the smp I'm rooting for the least purely because of their treatment of Avid.

again being overly clear, This is only about the characters and not the actual ccs.

vCleo is fascinating. they're every bit the nuanced, interesting, manipulative-but-means-well character that people think vOwen is. she's absolutely done things wrong and the way she treats vAvid is pretty high on that list -- especially knowing that they were aware vampires were real the entire time.

at the same time though, they're doing the triple agent play astoundingly well and it is in large part due to the fact that they're fully willing to act hostile towards other people in such an uncompromising manner. this will hopefully set her up for a really interesting finale with the other townies; she's walking a fine line and doing it in a fantastic manner.

also like. everyone's been shitty to vAvid so we can't really hold it against vCleo specifically, yknow? especially not with their motivations being ultimately at least somewhat altruistic, they're clearly trying to do something. sucks that she's been an ass to vAvid but every character has their flaws. and hers aren't mass murder so she's alright in our eyes lol

[betweenlands]

question, who do you think would fit best in Vampires SMP that isn't already in it

firstly the canon answer of Cherri because duh

then I would go for Jimmy Solidarity where he's essentially avid and Owen combined. starting vampire that did a bunch of evil stuff in the past, but in the present extremely nervous.

finally etho. he's not there for any particular reason I just want to hear him go "oh snappers" when getting bitten

(seriously though I don't know about the other hermits not already in it. I think wels, cub, joel, and maybee grian or mumbo could fit, but idk)

VINTAGE APPLESAUCE. holy cow she's such a great social deduction game player and a killer rper. we would support all the gaslighting and other crimes if she were in vscott's place, she'd make a fantastic starting vampire. similar feelings towards rubyco with the exception of xem probably being a fantastic tragic villain to put vowen absolutely to shame.

cub could serve as a good foil to abolish, the two have quite similar vibes of being way too competent for everyone else's own good. cub is the arms dealer to provide abolish with the finest concorp quality guns he could ever need. abolish getting recruited into the convex is a marvelously hermitcraft s6/early s7 kind of fic plotline and we would like it on our desk by saturday <- mostly a joke but it sure would rule.

and then maybe also piepiesamurai? the triumphant return of P.I. PiePie as Drift's assistant would go pretty hard ngl. let her plant the piepipebomb in the castle :)

[betweenlands]

ok so the ominous cryptic tweets (and in Cleo's case bluesky post) have started again

bets on what happened? mine are that Avid and Cleo somehow reconciled to kill scott specifically (I'm in denial about the possibility that cleo killed avid)

tbh we're half wondering if "it's so quiet" means pyro died. scott seems like a fair target for the abolish rampage though. even if abolish isn't the one striking the final blow, maybe someone else did?

either way as long as the owengundo divorce gets even more obviously unrecoverable and continues to show retroactively that the two are not remotely narratively compatible as love interests we'll be happy :V

[squishysphealgirl]

someone currently trying to scam me on tumblr, dmed me after following with no previous interaction at all, shared their art with me that is very inconsistent and likely AI, and when I expressed doubt has kept pushing me to commission them. rn I'm just seeing what's gonna happen

give them ALL OF YOUR DOLLAR and be blessed big time style #myadvice