#deep dive?

[downfall0fman]

Took a little bit of time, connected thoughts, here are some evaluations on the first two episodes of Daredevil Born Again, spoilers ahead (I apologize for the yap)

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When I first watched the scene with Wilson Fisk and the commissioner at the end of episode two, I thought Fisk was threatening physical violence on Gallos family. It wasn’t until I was reading someones TikTok comment that I got corrected. Fisk says after Gallo leaves “he thought he could keep that child a secret” to Buck Cashman (new Wesley). Fisk wasn’t physically threatening Commissioner Gallos family, he was blackmailing him over an affair. This detail I feel is very important

This directly ties into something @giveamadeuschohisownmovie says here (go read and like their post, amazing analysis there) Matt and Fisk are so desperately trying to not give into their violent tendencies but its failing terribly. Theyre going through the literal opposite of the original show. Whereas before, them being Daredevil and Kingpin was something people around them disliked (For Matt- Foggy and Karen. And for Fisk- Matt and the general public) And then theres now, the people want Daredevil back, sometimes begging. Venessa is becoming distant with Fisk as she is now engrossed in the criminal world, thriving in it, but Wilson is trying to keep his act straight

They are trying so hard not to take up those mantles again, those personas again (thank you Heather, cant wait for the new book) but as we see its not fully working. You cant will yourself out of such a large part of yourself, not when you don’t truly want it. Fisk has bloodied knuckles at the beginning of episode 2. From what? We don’t know quite yet, but it appears he’s not being a true and pure pacifist as he said he was, he is reverting to Kingpin tactics

Then theres Matt. At the end of episode two, Matt says nothing as dirty cops beat on him. He keeps completely silent. Its only when they talk about shooting him lethally that he pleads with them to stop, begs them not to escalate. He cant just let them shoot him in the head he has to stop them, he has to protect himself, so he does

There are two very important things to note about that fight scene

1- Matt is ruthless, maybe its because the fight has darker/more brutal effects but Matt doesn’t seem to care anymore. He is throwing them to the ground head first. He not only broke that mans arm but then repeatedly pulled on it in different angles continuously snapping it. Of course we have seen him do gnarly shit, but for someone trying not to fall back into that world he sure is fighting hard

2- This is a point I think is more relevant, there is a moment where Matt could’ve stopped fighting. Near the end of the fight when Matt throws Powell (the officer he was stalking) into the refrigerator, both cops are down. They’re not on him anymore, they’re not attacking.

And Matt stands back

Theres only a brief second before goes right back in. He could’ve ended the fight there, and someone who doesn’t miss being Daredevil would’ve. Yet he continues to beat him, slam his head into the fridge repeatedly then throws him to the ground, cracking his neck (or at least a bone cracking sound effect plays, the subtitles dont acknowledges it). The scream at the end was visceral, painful

He let the devil out

Takeaway being: Matt and Fisk are currently on parallel paths, trying to force themselves out of their true nature, and I am excited to see all of this play out (and which path they choose to take to get Foggybear back, are we going protective custody route or Matt storms into literal Hell route)

Tl;dr-

Matt and Fisk are on parallel paths. They both are trying to leave their personas behind, but they are learning the hard way that that is who they are. Its not just a mask you put on or a title you wear, it is fundamentally in the end you. Your actions and reactions. Your way of responding. Its not something you decide to be done with

[bowlthetime]

Spoilers for mostly season 2 and 3 (as in arc’s) and a heads up for my insanity :)

Another heads up, I don't know how to use Tumblr. This is my second post.

There will be more chima ones later :3. at some point.

Help I keep overly thinking about this

To start off Cragger and Laval are very similar in age, for simplicity they are in the same year. (Example: between January 1st to December 31st, of year 2010) 

It stated in Ep, Laval in exile, that Laval was just a cub when the last lion got exiled (Lavertus), mentioned by his dad.

So...

Uhhhh...

Either,

Crunket had already laid eggs or eggs growing inside by now, of Crominus children.

Note: in the show

It doesn't exactly show Crunket and Crominus relationship was like in the past.

 But in season 2&3 (I'm basing it off of arc's to clarify again) they showed a pretty decent amount of concern for each other, within the show.

I feel like I'm going insane (oh wait I am insane… HAHAHA :) .)

[bowlthetime]

Hi, because you are triyng To Figure the lego Chima Timeline Out at the time. I have a question. When exactly took the lions Control of the Chi, Since when is Chima Like WE See IT in season 1 with all its 8 united tribes? and was there ever a betrayel by one of the Other tribes after the lions took Control?

Some Things I found Out is that everywhere IS started the lions have Control Since over thousand years while the great Illumination was thousands of years ago. That suggests a time gab and I don't know If there are more information. And I think Eris mentiones that, the Last Time the amount of Chi between the Tribes was uneven over thousand years ago there were earth quakes and everywhere Lava, before Level throws the crocodile Chi down into the gorge of eternal depth I think.

Basacly I Just wanna know If there is some Kind of darkage between the great Illumination and today or If it all actually is pretty Well known

Fair warning this is my theory's mixed with in show statements and one of the writers of Ninjago through a YouTube video. Anything in ( ) is my thoughts or what season and episode.

some of my notes / thoughts are not in order so this might be chaotic. This is also a very long reply.

1)  for when the lions took control of the chi, I would need to quote the great story and information about chi because I would need it later.

“We weren't always the advanced, sophisticated creatures we are now. Once many, many centuries ago there were no buildings, or vehicles, or tribes in Chima just jungles and planes. There were only creatures that walked on all floors. 

One day the sky opened up and blessed the land, pulling Mount Cavora from the heart of Chima the water that flowed from this mountain was different, powerful, transformative, full of a life force that we now call chi. Those who drink from it became smarter more complex evolved 

However some in Chima chose not to embrace the chi, they stayed simple and pure vanishing into the outlands never to be seen again these creatures are now known as the legend beats it is said that they will return one day when Chima need the most”

(Sometime later in the same episode)

“Remember as the first to drink that chi we lions are its secret guardians ensuring that  it's shared fairly by all once a month we disputed all the orbs to every tribe in China… even those tribes we don't agree with… There's always one extra powerful golden chi every month” 

Lagravis (S1 Ep 2)

(Whenever the mountain rises up and they drink the water, that's when the Lions took over, maybe? That's what I got through that)

2)    Since when is Chima Like WE See IT in season 1 with all its 8 united tribes?

For this question I need to find the great story before the great story.

(My answer to this is (before I go hunting for the quote, this is based off what I remember.) that when the mountain rose up and a chi fell the Phoenix saw the tribes and put the faces of those tribes with the bigger population. Is this for when they were created, not necessarily when they were United.)

In the show:

“Many centuries ago, Mount Carova was just like any other mountain, the tallest peak of all of Chima. This is where we build our city and this is where we hoped to bless our primitive brethren below.”

(Sometime later within the same episode)

“The great illumination, Its power can restore existence to its most pure and natural state, the world renewed, its creatures thrived, Paradise was embraced by all. 

Except for the hunters, they fought the great illumination with unrelenting fury and the great illumination fought back. 

The same power that pulled down the mighty gorge pushed up Mount Carova

The illumination pulled so much heat from the fangs nothing has grown there since and the hunters were left frozen in ice deep inside the gorge. 

The great illumination left a powerful energy field, keeping us skyward and safe from intrusion. 

The mountain breathed in the moist breath of the sky, Water now blessed by Carova’s illuminations energy brought forth the chi and the Phoenix shared it with all.

Everything changed once again, we carved the rocks above our falls in honor of these new tribes.”

Fluminox (S3 Ep10) - (edit: its Ep 4 not 10 oops)

(There's a recurring theme of stating thousand years or over a thousand years. But then it gets counteracted by the same character (any old guy or smart character) saying it was many centuries, so within 999 years give and take.

In real life a lot of people misremember how long the world wars took

 For example I thought it took roughly 10 - 20 years for both I was very wrong

WW1 4ish years

WW2 6 years

What I'm saying is hard to remember the order of events of the past

At some point in season 3 (I'm not going to hunt for this one at the moment) the Phoenix pilot did state that they hadn't flew the Phoenix jet in a thousand years or over a thousand years)

3) Was there ever a betrayal after the lions took control?

 in the show; 

(S1 ep1) 

With Crominus and Lagravis, in this scene it stated: they had the rule of plugging chi before the age of becoming is strictly forbidden for over a thousands of years (I feel like this is an exaggeration, gut feeling wise)

And that there was a lot of bad blood between the two clans in the past (so crocodiles maybe)

The wolves only recently became less chaotic? by Crominus because of the Wolf pledge, The pledge of the pack thingy. (The wolves definitely did something because of Ninjago lore or different clan of wolves)

I have founded the quote 

“Years ago during our alpha troubles. Wolves were scavengers back then, always fighting amongst themselves to be the tribe’s alpha male. The crocodile King, King Crominus, your father, saved us. He taught us to live, to fight as one. For this, we gave him the pledge of the pack, promising to always assist the king of the Croc’s”

Worriz (S1 Ep10)

(I feel like in the show it was more of like heated debates then betrayal, like a general set of rules for the alliance)

In Ninjago lore, the forbidden five betrayed the tribes of Chima/the Wyldness at some point.

4)  a rough quote of what Eirs said (S1 Ep3) 

(pretty much my Note form of what she said)

You can't put chi back into the chi pool

You can't hide it from other lions (other people)

Chi must be used 

Unless you make an unbalance of nature

Last time a lion kept too much chi for himself 

Chima had all these earthquakes and lava, that's why the lions share it.

(I don't know if this is the early version of Lavertus before he was an actual character or this was a completely different lion that was truly greedy)

(Later on in the same episode) 

Eris stated that

She hasn't felt an earthquake in years.

(This kind of applies that it was Lavertus or someone else stole chi when Eris is existing with a decent memory. Age 3-4 and up roughly for when humans start having memories. 

I did search up when eagle start memories but didn't really find anything just that they remember well)

References/notes: 

- Tanner Fishes YouTube channel 

- Doc Wyatt Blue sky account 

(I use Tanner fishes to get information, I don't have blue sky at the moment of writing this)

- How I did the quote: I went to episode 2, played it, paused it, wrote down what I heard then added on filler words to make it flow better sentence wise, no important information was changed.

- Century = 100 years (this is more for me I didn't what it was)

- Centuries = more 100 years

- What other tag should I add to this?

[comicavalcade]

those are the major beats...

[feminasuperus]

“Dead & Gone” is also demonic, but also sad — for T.I. cuz I think this when he really changed/the turning out really showed out 😔😔😔

[feminasuperus]

Wrote this back in (late) May 2020: