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[bettysmagichut]

out of all scrapped charactes, i want the grass stomper the most

[mask131]

I am still so fascinated by the original pitch of Hazbin Hotel, back from the Pilot days. When we watched season 1 we all felt and guessed it - that Amazon had imposed a very tight time-frame and episode-limit that ended up making the season feel very condensed, very fast, without any pause to breathe. I won't say "rushed" because rushed implies something is botched and unfinished, but it did felt "synthetized" and "restrained" and, again, "condensed". (This is a phenomenon that has been proven by other cartoons released by Amazon or other platforms like Apple - every time a streaming platform starts doing animated series, they do a first attempt as short and concise as possible so they don't throw too much money at it in case it fails) In fact this is clearly why, unlike the Pilot and early Helluva Boss, Hazbin season 1 embraced the "theater musical logic" - aka having the songs not just be here to highlight a point or set-up a mood, but have them be actual crucial plot points, reveal scenes and character growths around which the non-singing parts are structured. Saves time when you need to have a complex story shortened in a handful of episodes.

And the release of the original pitch did prove this by showing how much bigger the project originally was - you can see for example in the description how much filler there was supposed to be, and how all of these fillers got removed. If you don't know what pitch I am talking about, I suggest you go check the video Ayy Lmao made about it (Ayy Lmao is one of the main "casual resources" for Hellaverse lore and behind-the-scenes, thanks for your good work!

Not only is this a good reminder of what the Hazbin Hotel used to be about - an indie animation+webcomic format, Pentious not being a guest of the hotel but rather a recurring secondary character/goofy antagonist, him having a crush on Rosie? - but it also shows how a lot of the original material was reused in different context.

Part of it being all the things left out only to be added in season 2, of course, like Baxter, or Charlie having problems with the news reporters sudenly appearing at the hotel, but more interestingly all the things reused for Helluva Boss. As Ayy Lmao says in the video, this pitch was designed before Helluva Boss was created and a lot of people say that Helluva Boss felt more like what Hazbin Hotel used to be... Because it's true!

See - the planned episode 4 was clearly what became the LooLoo Land episode. The title "Exes and oohs "was reused for Helluva Boss (and presumably some parts of the planned Hazbin episode too). There was a huge part dedicated to exploring the "old west"/"wild west" part of Pentagram City with "outlaw" antagonists, which obviously was repurposed into the Wrath Wring and Striker. And the huge emphasis on the Deadly Sins and the role of "hellish royalty" clearly was redirected into Helluva Boss and onto the Goetia demons.

Looking at this pitch, you can really feel how Helluva Boss was basically an outlet to preserve some of the "original Hazbin Hotel" despite the restrictions and tight outlet given by Amazon.

It also shows the traditional "two episodes planned to be different were squished into one". It is a usual thing when making animated series and usually it can be felt by the audience. We see here Lucifer's introduction and Mimzy's arrival at the hotel were supposed to be two different episodes and each had their time to shine, but were mashed into one for the final product. It is just like how, in Over the Garden Wall, Adelaide was supposed to have her own entire episode, all for herself, but at the last minute it was merged with the frog-boat episode, resulting in a notorious narrative-rythm fracture.

There's also some interesting concepts I wish we knew more about - like Challenge Day. Also, have you noticed that the flashback of Pentious and Baxter's partnership, in season 2, is actually a repurposed comic issue? The Vox-sponsored battle of engineering between villainous scientists. It was planned to be an entire comic, but became just a flashback scene.

And... I have to say, originally I wondered too why the "general of Heaven's armies" (aka proto-Adam) was a dragon. But recently I realized the whole "Heaven coming down onto Hell to kill them, offering them a definitive death" with specific lines from Adam's songs about the sole purpose of Hell being to be "killed again" at the end, might actually be a reference to the Apocalypse/Book of Revelation, whose entire schtick is that the devil, demons and their servants are destined by fate to be given a second, eternal death and be destroyed at the end (see the Lake of Fire thingy) - and of course it is in the Apocalypse that the Dragon as a character is a HUGE, huge motif... So this further my theories that Hazbin Hotel's Extermination plot actually was inspired by the Book of Revelations lore.

(I mean, between this, Supernatural and Good Omens, every Tumblr-affiliated Christian-lore-using-works of fiction ends up gravitating towards Apocalypse lore)

[kofiiz]

THIS.... This was meant to be in PRESSURE... WHO TF REJECTED IT—

[jihef03]

Peter Pan - Deleted Scene: Alternate Arrival

Apparently made in the early 40's. Very fun to see those early designs and situations

[characcoon]

MORE discarded concepts!

On the 1st anniversary of "Change of Perspective", I asked you guys what you'd like too see as extra content, and you chose discarded concepts. And now on the 2nd anniversary, MORE discarded concepts, mostly from chapter 14 to 20.

So let's get right into it!

1. The Puppeteer phase 2

Most of the concept sketches I released prior to the chapter, had Mikey as the center piece. (Yes it's the same Mikey sketch shhhh)

In the final chapter, he only got controlled Once. But the plan was for it to be much more important than one final horrifying blow. His fear at that moment, of being put against his brothers, would've been 100% thrown back at him at full force.

2. Leo VS Donnie

The resolution to That Whole Ordeal with Leo and Donnie, was going to be sort of like Raph planned in chapter 19.

It was going to be a Physical Fight. The first instance I thought of was during a sparring/training session that Leo, blind and lost in another hurricane of horrible thoughts, pulled Donnie aside, gave him a wooden sword, got another one for himself, and didnt even explain stuff before attacking him.

It was about the sword fighting specifically. Leo was in fear that he was losing his abilities, because of the muscle memory, and that he wasnt as good at it as he usually is. And the evil side of the thoughts were telling him that now Donnie was taking over his role completely in every way.

So he would fight Donnie, both with wooden swords, and Donnie would win, without even putting that much effort (because Leo was honestly too stressed to fight well). And Leo would not give up, would not stop, until he finally whacked Donnie in the hand and disarmed him, winning the fight. And once Leo won, the dam would break, and their talk would happen right there.

It would end well, as well, but it would be much uglier and raw than the final chapter. It would be less about Leo's effort to change being validated, and more about his fear of losing what makes him, him.

I think the reason I changed this approach was, the different tone it would set on the work. I think the final product has a much better message, and a much better resolution, than having the twins go at it in a fist fight, because Donnie's pain would be pushed aside in favor of that action show. Leo's acknowledge that, "hey, that guy wearing my face, the guy I'm cursing and yelling at? That's my brother and I am hurting him", is SO much better than "I am hurt and I'll make everyone know that."

It's not just about him, ya know.

3. Flare and Sparkles

One of these guys is not like the other.

So, Flare is the fireball in Mikey's old weapon that went "I ain't dying yet chump" and hopped into Mikey when the Shredder destroyed their weapon vessel. We got that.

Sparkles... wasn't supposed to exist. There is no demon in the Odachi. It makes no sense.

Y'see, I have another AU, "Sentient Ninpos", that has another Flare that is NOT the kusarifundo fireball. And uuuhhh I kinda mixed both of them. Sparkles was already a thing in the AU, and as I was in the initial stages of creating the AU at the same time I was writing that chapter of Leo meeting Flare, and then Sparkles.

I just mixed both concepts and put Sparkles in CoP by accident.

Awkward, I know, but hey, congrats on CoP Sparkles for being something completely new created by mistake that now I gotta think hard about to make it make sense.

4. Sparkles' name was going to be Sparky

Sparkles' name was going to be Sparky.

5. More of VS Puppeteer

That entire fight went through multiple reworks.

First, Donnie was going to be awake, and as said before, Mikey would be prominently controlled. DONNIE would be the one to "break the sky" and get Leo's ability to teleport for a while (which I'm sure would've worked wonders with what I had planned for Leo's self-worth issues /s). There would be no phase 3, they would've exploded the Puppeteer in a much more dramatic and tense way, and that would be it.

I wrote that phase 2 chapter practically in one sitting, so whatever happened there, it was due to the flow and being on the zone and letting the vibes drive the writing. It went that way, and I said well okay then I'm not rewriting 9k words of nonstop fighting and action scenes, and left it as that.

6. Ending of chapter 20

I had that chapter ready for a week or so. Now, if ya know me, I post stuff as soon as it's done, I dont keep things to wait to post. So that week of waiting I spent constantly poking around chapter 20, and I changed the entire ending of it one day before posting.

Donnie would make no deal to stop talking about personal issues and focus on the artifact. He would've bounced right the fuck out of there and go "I'm not processing that entire emotional show, I'm gonna go out and kick people in the face to avoid thinking about what just happened". And that would've gone as well as it sounds: horribly.

Leo and Mikey would have an extra segment of talk about Sparkles and Flare, Leo going "ok we dont know if my Odachi had a demon, but I can ask Magnus because he has the twin of the sword to make sure that there is really no demon" vine boom sound effect, Mikey goes HUH WHU PARDON ME WHAT and credits roll.

I am once again pushing Magnus reveal further and further away. No regrets, it's great to look at how they all know the same thing but they dont know the others know.

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And that's... basically it! ONCE AGAIN, ty for all the support! Hope you enjoyed taking a glimpse at the inner workings of my brain, and how I think over stuff. It's fun over here.

See you guys next chapter!

[bee-barnes-author]

Dead Darlings Tag

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Tagging: @coffeewritesfiction @vivrune @violeaes @tombstuck @ellierenae @milkhoney531 @amandacanwrite @leahkentwriter @pheita @following-the-drum @sirensatyr and an open tag for anyone else!

Rules: Share a part of your writing you love that got cut for the greater good. It doesn't matter if it's a line or a paragraph. It doesn't matter if you might work it back in. If it's not currently in a WIP and you want to share, please do.

Deleted excerpt from 'The Beast in the Glass House' (it's a long one!)

Elijah doesn’t take it well when I tell him I’ll be staying behind this moon cycle, leaving him in charge of the pack while I’m here. “Seriously? You won’t be there? Well, what the hell are you doing instead?”

“I’m attending a Halloween party with Freya and her friends.” I say, cool toned and firm in my phrasing. My little brother can’t talk me out of this one. I’m confident in my position. This is the right path for me.

Elijah gapes at me like I’ve spontaneously sprouted a second head on my shoulders. “How are you going to do that? It’s the first night.”

“I’ll be fine. We’ll leave the party before the moon is even an issue for me.” I wave his concerns off. “Haven’t I proven my control?”

His lips twitch like he has a thousand words to say, but after a moment he finally lands on, “Do you want me here as backup?”

I shake my head. “No, I need you to lead the pack run.”

He pushes back, not satisfied by my answer. “Klaus can do it. I think you need me here as backup.”

“Look, Elijah, I appreciate that you’re trying to protect me, but what you’re actually doing is undermining me. I said I’ll be fine without you.”

My final refusal seems to push his temper over the edge. “But what if you’re not fine?! What if you’re just getting sicker and sicker like dad did?!” He stomps his foot at me like a child and for a long, horrible second I think I’m going to slap him.

But I control myself. I won’t lash out like that. “ENOUGH! Elijah! I am your Alpha and you will obey me!”

“I’m worried about you, jackass!” Elijah roars back, not quite matching my volume. He makes the wise choice not to get in my face. We both know how a fist fight between us would end.

“Don’t you think I’m terrified, too?! You stupid fuck! That’s why I have to do this! If our bond can settle completely, and she knows the truth about us, then everything can go back to normal! But this is a very delicate process. So you need to back. Off.” I emphasize my final words, putting pressure on the pack bond we share. This is an order, and he knows it. 

He knows it, and he fucking hates that I’ve done it. Elijah purses his lips, clearly biting back more vicious anger. “Fine.” He snarls, snatching his coat and stomping to the front door. “Fine. Don’t fucking listen to me. Jesus, fuck.” He’s not gentle when shutting the door behind him. He slams it so hard that the door frame vibrates violently, and the pictures on the wall rattle, threatening to slip off their mounts.

Elijah thinks I’m nothing more than a beast, whose cage is actually a house made of glass. He treats me like I’ll explode at any second, goring everyone around me with crystalline shards in the process. Tonight, I will prove to him beyond a shadow of a doubt that I am in control. I won’t have him undermining me with the rest of the wolves. No pack can survive if the Alpha’s Second attempts mutiny.

On the counter, next to where Elijah stood moments ago, is a cluster of purple herbs tied together with twine. Every full moon cycle, Elijah makes tea with this and that helps to delay his transformation for as long as possible. He’s stoned out of his gourd by the time he finishes his second cup, and he says it tastes like eating a fruitarian's shit, but it’s worth it because it works. And, as furious as he is with my choice to stay behind this cycle, he still chose to leave behind a bundle of his precious herbs for me.

I pick the herbs up like they’re more fragile than eggshell china. Like they’ll crumble in my grip if I clutch it too tight. I don’t know the scientific name for them, but the long purple stems grow lush, purple petals, and even the pollen that dusts the feet of the bees is a rich purple. They’re fairly rare on this side of the world. Elijah has the only greenhouse that grows them on the west coast, as far as I know. Lucius had disagreed with using them, so out of respect, Elijah kept the plants on my property and transported small batches to the cabin each moon.

My brother is a good man. I need to remember that. He’s just scared for me, and while, as I said to his face, I’m scared as well, I can’t let that stop me from doing what I need to do. For the good of myself and for the good of the pack. He’ll see that once we’re on the other side of this mess.

For today, I push away the strife. It’s eight a.m, and I’m due to be at your front door in two hours. It’s your tradition to take Halloween day off of work and celebrate in as many ways as you can. You’ve invited me to spend the day leading up to the party with you. Of course, I accepted immediately. What sort of fool would I have to be to decline the opportunity to spend more time with you?

[thefanimator]

A Nightmare on Elm Street (2010); deleted content featured in the trailer

[askfallenroyalty]

Dark World Arc Posting 1/?

Hey so like, remember the dark arc from like, a year ago? and i canned it so i never uploaded it? well, the ending was done on stream and i got real close to the ending, it was going to have a music video/video game to finish it off but it never came to fruition.

anyway its about time i take some time to upload the sketches and what part of the animation was done, and write down what would of happened.

under the cut there’s gonna be a million images lmao

god.... if tumblr mobile doesn’t put this under a readmore i think i would literally die and oombust

CW: knives, talk of stabbing (for magic reasons, not for violence. kris isn’t going to be hurt) threats of actual violence (empty talk), one panel has chara face shift like flowey to be scary. 

Each picture is accompanied by a description for the visual impaired.

2 Panels:

Chara grabs Kris’ shoulder. They are facing away, unbothered. There’s Feylow 2.0, in monster-skull form behind the two of them. Chara says “Kris?” next panel, Chara looks down, saddened. “Oh, right. You’re possessed.”

1 Panel:

We get a shot of Kris against a solid black background. They stand stiffly. Red Text reads Badum, badum, badum, a heart beat. 

1 Panel:

A close up of Kris’ face, shadowed harshly.

1 Panel:

A medium shot of Kris, reaching for their soul, face concentrating.

1 Panel:

Kris grabs their soul, a solid red background and kris is shadowed darkly against the red of the soul. They grimace in pain.

1 Panel:

Back to reality. They turn back to Chara, a determined expression on their face. Chara looks confused. Kris yells “Chara! Stab me!” in blue text.

1 Panel:

Chara looks disgruntled, beyond confused. Kris still looks sternly at them head on.

1 Panel: 

 Chara throws their hands up in the air. “NO!” they shout, Kris rolls their eyes, anoyed and groans at the reaction.

3 Panels:

Dobatsgetcavitites, one of the stream commentors says the following: Chara has holy magic. If they stab kris in teh heart, we and the knight will be relinquish control.

Chara consdiers this, humming in thought as they rub their chin. They then become more casual, saying “yeah, okay.” Chara pulls out a magic made knife with an audible shing! “That’ll work!” They declare.

1 Panel: 

 Frisk is face palming. Lancer is unfazed. Chara readies to stab Kris, who has googly eyes and is panicked. Susie rushes to stop Chara. “Wait, STOP!” she shouts.

1 Panel: 

 “Yeah by KILLING THEM!” She states, against Chara’s logic. She’s covered in dark ooze from when she attacked Kris and the Knight.

1 Panel:

Chara raises an eyebrow, cocky. “Aw, is the baby scared of a lil of a little stabbing?” They ask, still holding the knife in stabbing postion.

1 Panel: 

 Chara mocks Susie by pretending to be surprised and concerned. “But oh,” they continue, “You were so fine with axing the Knight before!”

1 Panel: 

 Chara’s face contorts into a scary face, black eyes oozing and mouth unnaturally large. They point their knife inward in a threatening gesture. “I should GUT you,” they state, “You little hypocritical swine.”

1 Panel:

Frisk signs “no,” at Chara who rulls their eyes and goes “tch” in annoyance. Kris breathes a sigh of relief, comically wide eyed.

2 Panels:

A Fan of All Trades, another stream commenter commands kris: Apologize to Feylow, group hug and say goodbye. Pray for a safe return.

Kris goes up to Feylow, laying their forehead against the beast who accepts the comfort. “Apologies,” kris states in red text.

(NOTE: originally there was going to be an added scene to give Feylow more depth as a confused betrayed beast. Feylow would of whine and beg for mercy, Kris would comfort them and tell them it’s almost over.)

2 Panels:

Kris then goes up to Frisk, Chara and Lancer, arms out wide. Feylow is pacified, ready for sleep. “Hug.” Kris states again in red rext. They go over to Chara, pulling them in a hug. Frisk gets excited, Lancer hugs Kris in return. 

1 Panel:

Frisk joins the group hug, squishing Chara who is now sandwiched in the  middle. Kris and Chara seem surprised as well.

1 Panel:

Frisk is so happy at hugging their new friend and Chara. Chara is squished, uncomfortable and barely tolerating it. Kris is awkwardly smiling, also squished. They say “thanks” in blue text.

1 Panel:

Kris rolls their eyes playfully and Chara gets demonic again. Chara threatens with: “Let go or I’ll stab you all.” Kris interupts, sweating anxiously with their hand up. “But you’re going to anyway.” (again in blue text.)

2 Panels:

Kris goes back under control and in red text. They become stiff. “Pray for a safe return” they state before going slack, falling to the ground.

1 Panel:

AfanofTrades says: Oh, I have an idea to make this easier. Kris, go to sleep.

Dobatsgetscavities says: Sweet dreams honey.

Kris is now asleep against Feylow who is unbothered. Lancer is confused, tongue sticking out idly. Chara and Frisk stand to the right, cut off by the framing of the panel. Chara holds a red knife.

2 Panels: Frisk looks at Chara, unsure about all of this. Char looks down, saddened and unsure too. Chara then transforms their knife into their Holy Spear from earlier in the Darkworld Arc, when they had their cherub form. It’s a long spear with a red heart attached between the blade and wood. Frisk is now REALLY concerned over this change.

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That’s it for now. these take like, idk, 3 hours or so to convert into this format? Tho, maybe that’s cause i had to set up the big webtoons pages first. Probably won’t take as long next time i do this. I want to shoot for once a week or more, but no promises.