#delusional ben 10

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So I've been on a Descendants kick lately and how the fuck are there people out there that hate Ben Florian??

I've literally seen takes where people claim he's the villain of the franchise when he's literally the only objectively good character in it???

Like is there just something about the name Ben that causes people to not understand fucking media SPECIFICALLY MADE FOR CHILDREN TO UNDERSTAND? Like how the FUCK is your media literacy so bad you can't understand a show or movie made for kids???

It's bad enough Ben Florian has basically no one in his corner at all in the franchise and he basically wasn't a character in the 3rd film (why the FUCK were they completely disregarding his opinion on closing the Isle barrier when HE'S LITERALLY THE FUCKING KING OF EVERYTHING and it was his proclamation that started the VK program). Like holy fuck. Out of everyone in the franchise he deserves to crash out the most. Nevermind the fact he turned into a beast, something he's been terrified of his entire life.

Media literacy isn't hard. We all literally spend more than a decade learning it in school. Why the FUCK are some people so bad at it?

It's literally just applying reason to media.

Like, YES, Marinette is a fucking stalker and abusive as fuck to Adrien and literally his entire social group is ok egging her on about her bullshit. No, Ben never once cheated on Julie but she infact DID do so by getting Harvey behind Ben's back when he still thought they were together (he literally fucking says he wasn't talking to Julie that way and if she paid even the slightest bit of attention to his favorite franchise she'd know Kingo is a character in it). Ben Florian is way too good for Auradon.

Ben is absolutely the most tragic character in the franchise.

It's never touched on at all but he constantly has to be on 24/7, being a good prince and king, above reproach, always kind/caring/empathetic and never allowed to be mad or angry or distraught or anything remotely negative.

Like I'm being so serious when I say some of you NEED to go back to school if your takes on media are this bad. You're literally not understand kid media.

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I saw a post on Tumblr saying Ben was being racist towards Kai. What do you think about this? Personally, it didn't seem convincing to me.

Lmao???

Racist? How? I swear people just say fucking anything to disparage Ben's character. Ben would never knowingly be racist or speciest, since that implies he gives a fuck about a person's race or species when his whole fucking thing is turning into different beings and changing literally everything about him except his mind.

Holy fuck this is right up there with those stupid ducks that think Ben is a narcissistic womanizer socio/psychopath that only saves women to get in their pants.

If literally any of that was true we'd have a COMPLETELY different fucking show and series. Since actions have consequences.

Do you honestly think anyone in Ben's life would put up with him being a misogynist? A racist? A psycho/sociopath? A womanizer?

Send me the post lol. I bet it's completely fucking stupid and takes basically everything out of context just like every other delusional Ben 10 shit on this and other sites.

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I keep seeing people say Ben's character constantly regresses or that he acts like his 10 year old self post season 2 of Alien Force and that's objectively wrong lmao. The series goes over this explicitly multiple times. It explains why he acts arrogant and treats things like a joke.

I fucking hate this take lmao. He never reverted. There's a whole fucking Omniverse episode of 11 year old Gwen being freaked out about 11 year old Ben being mature because his 16 year old mind was in that body at the time.

People who say this and believe it have frankly little to no media literacy or know how teenagers work.

Ben's characterization makes perfect sense in the context of the series.

He was only that mature because he literally had no other choice and saw his grandpa die right in front of him. By the 3rd season he not only knows Max is alive and thus able to help, but he's stopped universal omnicide by the Highbreed.

So obviously once he has more of a support network he can finally relax and be less hyper vigilant. This continues into Omniverse were there's a whole fully staffed Plumber base to help out on Earth now and he's seen so much shit that basically nothing fazes him.

Like Ben LITERALLY SAYS in the Forge of Creation episode that the reason he acts arrogant and jokes is to distract himself from what if scenarios on what could happen if he fails and make sure he doesn't freeze when the going gets tough.

"Everything's not a game.

What we do is important.

If you can't see that, maybe you are just a kid." Kevin

"You think I don't know?

When it's hero time, if I mess up, somebody could die.

From what you told me, if we mess up this time, everybody could die.

....

Maybe that's too much to have in your head when you have to win.

Maybe if I pretend everything's a big joke, when the time comes, I'll be able to do what I have to do." Young Ben

"Is that why you're so arrogant all the time... because you're scared?" Gwen

"No. I'm actually oblivious." Teen Ben

I HATE THIS CLAIM SO MUCH lmao. Like not only does it make sense that Ben isn't entirely consistent between episodes (teenagers are notor

Full stop, no bullshit? That's wrong. Objectively so. I don't know what it is about Omniverse but the people with those takes ALWAYS disr

People with those opinions are objectively wrong lol.

Ben doesn't revert to a 10 year old personality wise.

Multiple episodes EXPLICITLY point this out.

The reason Ben learns the same lessons again is because it's a long running kids cartoon. Obviously they're going to go over stuff like what makes a hero multiple times.

All superhero media, most media in fact, are just different flavors of morality tales in different settings.

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So this man really thought he was HIM when he made that trash-ass Hate Poem? Hell naw! All Ben 10 fans rise up and cook this man! We are not letting this disrespect on our boi SLIDE!!!!

Fr lolol.

I swear every Ben 10 hater I've seen has basically no media literacy.

If you haven't seen it I already responded to that post with plenty of examples of why it's wrong.

It's honestly really sad how bad media literacy is.

You straight up have people agreeing with that supervillain in X Men 97 when he's basically a white supremacist talking point lol.

Like if people are failing to understand a fucking KID'S CARTOON than they should go back to school. Because that's insane.

If you want to see more insane delusional takes on Ben 10 just take a look at my delusional Ben 10 tag lol a bunch of stupid shit there.

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Hello

I wanna talk about something that really bugs me and that is people claiming that Ben deciding to Kill Kevin in the short yet cool Ultimate Kevin Arc was unreasonable and out of nowhere all while ignoring the context of how and why he goes to those extremes.

Short answer: Everything in between Aggregor and Ultimate Kevin broke him down drove him to those extremes.

Long answer?

Ben has tried so hard are to rescued the Andromeda aliens from Aggregor only to fail with the Osmosian becoming Ultimate Aggregor and he understably beats him down in a fit of rage yet Gwen stopped him as was about to continue, keeping him from going to far but Aggregor got back up and defeated all of them.

Throughout his missions to acquire the pieces of Map of Infinity Ben was continuously beaten and outsmarted by Aggregor despite always trying to do the right thing like helping Charmcaster stop Addwaitya and free her people or pulling a planet back together with his own body as Goop.

I think the worst I felt for him was during the ending of the Perplexahedron where the Sentinel berated him for choosing to save his life instead of the map and he dies anyway with Aggregor succeeding yet again. And Ben's response?

"I...I didn't-"

That one line as well as his expression said it all in this scene, he's shocked saddened that it was all for nothing there's a part of him that feels like if he was completely ruthless things wouldn't get this far, Gwen and Kevin try to comfort him by saying that he never leaves anyone behind that isn't who he is, that he did what he thought was right. It's true he was being who he was and always will be.

A Hero.

But he felt like he messed up cause of that which is unfortunately also true and that had to have hurt his soul to realize that.

And Kevin absorbing the Ultimatrix and then betraying his team as well going insane again, going around hurting people (He attacked Ken for owing him 2 dollars for gods sake!) all while refusing attempts to reach out to him from his Best friend and Girlfriend, added to the termoil.

By Absolute Power he thought enough was enough, deciding to stop Kevin for good because after everything that's happened and how his failures let it get this far? He has to do this, because that's seems to be the only other solution and there is no other way this time, but even then he shows remorse during all this but ultimately they found another way in the end.

Ben even says sorry to Kevin at the end. Yet people still see this as out of nowhere even though it's onscreen and has been justified by other characters andUltimate Kevin acts during the time.(Kevin's one of my favorites but even I can say he was wild.)

Ben Tennyson is a good Man, it's just the whole situation breaking him down, but he still pulled through in the end.

It's neither unreasonable or out of nowhere. As you said the show blatantly lays it out why he's doing what he is. Everyone Kevin hurts or kills is on Ben's hands because he's one of the few people alive who can stop him. Every second he's out there he gets more energy and more power. He's an existential threat.

The people who say that are the same people that claim the Galvans/Plumbers are secretly evil/bigots and that Ben is a narcissistic sociopath/psychopathic womanizer who only saves women to get in their pants. Fuck I've even seen someone claim with their whole chest that the reason Ben wanted to kill Kevin was because he was jealous that Kevin stole his "saving the day" hero shtick.

It's all in my delusional Ben 10 tag lol.

Ben has shown time and again he's perfectly willing to kill others, have them die by their own evil, and kill himself to save more lives.

Kinda a part two to this, what Heroes do you think Ben wouldn't get along with?

As I've established in the linked post, contrary to popular belief Ben isn't opposed to killing people*, so if he found out Spider-Man strai

It's literally canon that if Ben didn't stop when he was beating Aggregor in a rage when Gwen told him to that he'd have won in that fight just fine too.

Thanks for the ask, feel free to ask more lol.

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I genuinely don't understand how some people can say they watched Ben 10 but refuse to accept the central premise of the series. That the Omnitrix runs off of DNA.

Like, what?

It's so fucking obvious that the Omnitrix is a DNA manipulation device and that all the aliens in the watch have DNA. When people in setting say DNA or literally anything about genetics they MEAN exactly the same shit we do irl.

The series hammers this point in during all series. Animo used the faceplate of the prototype Omnitrix to access it's Alien DNA. He used Ditto's DNA to make a clone army. He injected Future! Vilgax with a genetic cheat sheet on how to beat every single one of Ben's forms. Azmuth and Albedo constantly reference the DNA in the watch. Primus existed before the DNA was digitized in Omniverse. Eunice literally copies the genetics of any given species, even if only one at a time. Vilgax made the Bioids that had blank DNA so they can transform with the Omnitrix.

We've literally seen DNA strands of multiple aliens and they're exactly like a humans, double helix and all. Skurd literally calls the Omnitrix the food of the gods, since Slimebiotes feed off of DNA.

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3 pics there showing the DNA samples of Hsaur, Swampfire, and Spidermonkey.

I knew some people in the fandom were dogshit at picking up things the series blatantly lays out but this is ridiculous.

Alien X's DNA sample shown here

Skurd literally talks about it too in the Omniverse finale lmao.

Animo repeatedly talks about the DNA in the watch too

Like .... It baffles me so much this is a contested point in the franchise. It's obvious if you pay the slightest bit of attention.

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Lmao look at people not knowing the definition of words

r/Ben10 - Found this in the wild

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Ben's names for his aliens are effectively superhero names for entire species and shows that they too can Hero if they wanted to. They are in no way, shape, or form slurs. Ben immediately stopped using the term Sludgepuppies for Lebnopans once he found out it was offensive and apologized for it.

Even as a joke this take is braindead.

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Figured I should clear something up—remember that “Ben 10 is cop propaganda” post I made that really confused you? I’d like to clarify that I’m a radical liberationist anarchist. I don’t think cops should exist at all. Ben 10 is cop propaganda to me bc it promotes the existence of police and laws as we know it

It didn't confuse me. It's an absurd notion. One only a anarchist would have.

Laws and organizations that uphold them aren't inherently bad nor are they good. All things are but tools society uses to create as stable a foundation for growth of the whole.

Laws are typically made to uphold social order. What is considered good and evil changes from country to country and the time period of said laws.

There was once a time child labor wasn't considered evil after all.

A organization upholding laws is fundamentally NECESSARY for any society no matter how big or small. This is doubly true for societies of cosmic proportions.

If no laws existed to dictate what's considered evil it'd be a net loss of life and net gain for unnecessary suffering. Having no laws is objectively evil since a lawless society is the epitome of negligence and apathy, a fractal nexus of everything that perpetuates suffering.