#erdwal illuminator

[magicjudge]

I have a question about Erdwall Illuminator and Confront the Unknown. Assuming I had no clues already in play, and had not yet investigated that turn, should the creature I play Confront the Unknown on end up with +1/+1 or +2/+2?

The creature will only get +1/+1.

Erdwal Illuminator’s ability is a triggered ability and the trigger won’t go on the stack until whatever triggered it has finished resolving. In this case, that means that Confront the Unknown will be in your graveyard by the time you’re putting Erdwal Illuminator’s trigger on the stack.

[madcat-world]

Erdwal Illuminator - Seb-M

[magicjudge]

What happens when you have multiples of erdwal illuminator and then you trigger Investigate? Do the triggers stack together or do they only resolve for the first one and you'd only get two clues?

Both will trigger the first time you investigate in a turn and each trigger will resolve and have you investigate again. Erdwal Illuminator doesn’t care if you’ve investigated more by the time its trigger resolves.

[magicjudge]

You threw me for a loop with the Erdwall question😊. Wouldn't that instant have to resolve in order to trigger Erdwall's ability? Therefore, if the spell is resolved, then a second clue may be placed as the first part of the spell happens, no?

So here’s what happens exactly, step by step from the moment that Confront the Unknown starts to resolve:

You investigate and get a clue.

This triggers Erdwal Illuminator’s ability, but the trigger has to wait to go on the stack until players would receive priority.

The creature targeted by Confront the Unknown gets +1/+1 for each clue token you control. This includes the clue token from step 1, but doesn’t include the clue token you’ll eventually get from Erdwal Illuminator’s triggered ability since it doesn’t exist yet.

Confront the Unknown finishes resolving, going to your graveyard.

You put Erdwal Illuminator’s trigger on the stack because you’re about to receive priority.

You receive priority. If all players pass in succession without taking any actions, then the top object on the stack (Erdwal Illuminator’s trigger) will resolve.

Erdwal Illuminator’s trigger resolves and you investigate, getting another clue token.

[magicjudge]

If I control an Erdwal Illuminator (and haven't investigated already this turn) and cast Confront the Unknown, will the Illuminator's Clue count towards Confront?

No.

While Erdwal Illuminator will trigger when you investigate for Confront the Unknown, that triggered ability won’t even go on the stack until after Confront the Unknown finishes resolving and so the clue from Erdwal won’t exist yet.

You’ll have to be happy with giving your creature a slightly smaller buff, sorry.