#experiencing self

[nabsnabieu]

Layers of limitations to happiness: Layer 5: Not Harmonizing Joy with your TWO-SELVES

Layers of limitations to happiness: Layer 5: Not Harmonizing Joy with your TWO-SELVES

Your Experiencing-Self Versus Your Remembering-Self

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Harmonizing Joy with your TWO-SELVES

Time: Your Experiencing-self Versus Your Remembering-self

Question: You are anticipating to go on an amazing vacation. Do you imagine it in the form of feeling the experience itself or in the form of the memory you are going to get from it? 

Our Experiencing Self…

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[livinginsentences]

What if I lived in a city like Florence? Florence, Italy.

Where the streets are lined with eyes that have witnessed the turning of the century, where the canals know the secrets of history, where the renaissance caught fire, where great men have died and were born in, where wars were kindled and golden ages died out.

What if I lived in a conspicuous city? A flamboyant, golden, shining city.

A one unlike where I am, but somewhere great minds have walked, cut steak, sipped coffee and tea. A city that is the birthplace of fantastic epics and sparks of magic. A city where heroes were made into puppets by gods and goddesses. A city where legendary ships have docked and set sail to look for better shores, hidden treasure or a maiden to rescue.

What a life I would lead.

(some thoughts for you at 2am on December 30, 2013)

[joyjoys]

"Imagine that for your next vacation, you know that at the end of the vacation all your pictures will be destroyed, and you'll get an amnesic drug so that you won't remember anything. Now, would you choose the same vacation?"

- Daniel Kahnemen: The riddle of experience vs. memory

[joyjoys]

"We think of our future as anticipated memories."

- Daniel Kahneman: The riddle of experience vs. memory

[slowandfastthinking]

GLOSSARY: Two selves

Kahneman proposed an alternate measure that assessed pleasure or pain sampled from moment to moment, and then summed over time. Kahneman called this “experienced” well-being and attached it to a separate "self". He distinguished this from the “remembered” well-being that the polls had attempted to measure. He found that these two measures of happiness diverged. His major discovery was that the remembering self does not care about the duration of a pleasant or unpleasant experience. Rather, it retrospectively rates an experience by the peak (or valley) of the experience, and by the way it ends. Further, the remembering self dominated the patient's ultimate conclusion.

Kahneman demonstrated the principle using two groups of patients undergoing painful colonoscopies. Group A got the normal procedure. Group B, unknowingly received a few extra minutes of less painful discomfort after the end of the examination, i.e., more total discomfort. However, since Group B’s procedure ended less painfully, the patients in this group retrospectively minded the whole affair less.

“Odd as it may seem,” Kahneman writes, “I am my remembering self, and the experiencing self, who does my living, is like a stranger to me.

[slowandfastthinking]

VIDEO: Rocky Horror Picture Show

[slowandfastthinking]

GLOSSARY: experiencing self

experiencing self: The self who navigates one’s life

Wikipedia: Self-conscious emotions 

[maxleibman-blog]

When Beckett wrote, in 1930, that it was every bit as illogical to expect tomorrow’s self to be gratified by today’s experience as it was to expect your hunger to vanish at the sight of your uncle eating a sandwich, he could take it for granted that nobody expected one person’s sandwich to satisfy someone else. That was then. Lots of people on Twitter do think you’ll enjoy the spectacle of their snacks. They tell you what they’re eating, where they’re going, what they’re consuming, never mind why you should care. Or — an apparently opposite genre to the hyper-banal tweet (“Lunch again today!”), but identical in effect — they tweet something cryptic to the point of senselessness. This is the tweet that says, whatever its actual content, “I have nothing to say but I want to say something.”

The Editors of N+1, "Please RT" (via Brent Simmons).