1 Thanks for your response about faking torture. A few things didn't get mentioned that seem important. The victim is never tortured. The fake torturer is the only person assumed to do so. The others are only kidnappers and got what they thought was person with a reputation for torture to get information. He isn't a torturer at all, but the victim's friend pretending. So he could enter the kidnapper's lair, visit his friend and stage a rescue. Also, I should mention the victim already has a few
2. cuts and bruises simply by fighting the kidnappers before they took him down. No actual torture ever happens. The kidnappers only need to hear sounds of torture and the victim appearing (mentally exhausted if not physical) a little worse for wear. There is also no doctor or lawyer to fool.
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Sorry it took so long to get back to this one.
This question is following on from an earlier ask, here.
I appreciate the additional details but my answer hasn’t changed much. I think you should read more about torture apologia and clean torture before you go forward with this (O’Mara’s Why Torture Doesn’t Work:The Neuroscience of Interrogation is a great starting point.)
I don’t think this scenario is torture apologia but while writing it you will brush up against concepts and pre-conceptions that are common in torture apologia. Things like the assumption torture always leads to obvious external marks and the assumption that torture survivors without these marks are lying.
You’ll find it a lot easier to navigate around those if you familiarise yourself with these tropes and their implications first.
If you can’t access O’Mara, because it’s too expensive or unsafe, then take a look through my tags on ‘clean torture’ and ‘torture apologia’. It will probably be a longer, choppier process but it should help you get an over view.
This post is designed as a starting point. There’s an old post on clean tortures specifically over here.
In this kind of short term scenario around people who’ve never seen survivors before torture is pretty easy to fake. The vast majority of torture today is ‘clean’, which means it leaves no obvious external marks. The majority of these clean torture techniques have been used for hundreds, if not thousands of years. So even though scarring tortures and clean tortures were used side by side historically this sort of thing is still plausible in a historical setting.
Tasers and stun guns, used according to instructions, sometimes leave a slightly red patch of skin, similar to a pinch or a bug bite. Waterboarding can make people throw up but aside from that the only immediately obvious sign is being wet, tired and distressed. Clean beatings might leave some slight redness but they don’t always.
If there aren’t any experts to fool, or any close observation then this scenario is perfectly possible.
My worry is that this sort of plot could end up implying that there are a lot of malicious torture accusations and that the majority of survivors could be ‘lying’ about their experiences.
Because this character, who is acting tiredness, pain and distress? That’s how most torture survivors today would look immediately afterwards. The immediate aftermath is often easy to act.
The life long disabilities, the memory problems and the effect on communities, on generations is not something that people can consistently fake.
I guess what I keep circling back to is this: if torture isn’t going to have a lasting impact on this story why is it coming up at all? Is there really no other way to break this character out? A way that doesn’t risk implying that the most vulnerable people on our planet are liars.
I approach the blog and the questions here with the assumption that the majority of us writers have not been tortured. We are writing about other people. People who are more vulnerable then us. People who are routinely dismissed, talked over and neglected throughout our global society.
We owe it to them to do the best job we can. And I think sometimes that means not writing about them.
Sometimes it means letting go of a plot we thought was neat or clever because it’s too difficult to navigate without risking harm to someone more vulnerable then we are.
Ask yourself if you are really sure you can write this without propping up arguments that support torture today. I can not answer that for you. You know your story and your own abilities far better then I do.
If you’re confident you can handle it I still think you need to do the reading. And if you’re even a tiny bit unsure then I think it might be better if you try and think of another method of escape.
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