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Hestia felt amazingly happy with the change of pace in her family nowadays. From the simplest of changes of Zeus beating Hades at being a st
I'll be honest with you. There is no version where that's actually the case.
Most people's opinion of that comes from playing chinese whispers based off the biased and honestly pretty wrong view from OSP
Let's be honest-the real reason people hate Jason is because he cheated on Medea.
That's the big issue, riaht? She sacrificed evervthing for him, and in return, he marries another woman. But the wav people reduce the whole situation to that one act is incrediblv shallow. It makes vou wonder how many have actually read Medea and how many watched OSP's video and took Red's words at face value--especiallv considering how much she omits ust to paint Medea as a blameless victim and Jason as pure evil
But Jason didn't marry Creusa just to upgrade to a "hot new wife."
The situation was far more complex. After Medea killed Pelias, thev were both exiled and hac nowhere to go. They were desperate, vulnerable, and needed the protection of a powerful allv-specifically King Creon, whose daughter was Creusa. Jason's marriage to her was a strategic move to secure safetv for his children and ensure they wouldn't fall victim to enemies cause remaining in exile would've meant certain danger for all of them.
Contrary to what people say, Jason didn't abandon Medea either.
In Seneca's version, he begs Creon not to kill her-Creon feared Medea might retaliate against his daughter. Moved by Jason's pleas, Creon chooses exile over execution.
Even in Euripides' play, Jason pleads with Creon to let Medea stay. Creon initially agrees, but Medea's own relentless cursing of the royal family pushes him to expel her.
And Jason didn't just wash his hands of her either. In both versions, he offers to provide for Medea and their children, using his new political position. He wants to ensure her safety and wellbeing, but Medea, consumed hate/ vengeance outright refuses and you already know the rest
She treated her children as pawns in her revenge against Jason.
Just look at the Euripides play. It opens with Medea saying she no longer feels love for her kids. and even the nurse warns them to stav away because their mother might lash out. Yes Medea hesitates at times about killing them, but in the end, hurting Jason mattered more to her than keeping her own children alive. She literallv savs that, as their mother, she had the right to end their lives iust as she gave them. She'd rather they die by her hand than suffer in exile-an exile caused bv her own reckless actions against the royal family.
And in Seneca's version? It's even more chilling. Jason offers Medea anvthing she wants for her exile-except the children. He can't let them ao because thev're the only reason he lives. And Medea's response? "Oh, so he loves his children? Now 1 know how to hurt him." That's not maternal love; that's weaponization.
As someone who decided to bite the bullet and actually read the play. I don't know how ii mutated into this "medea was the victim situation."
Honestly, it just seems like a case of the greeks liking their tragedy and not wanting to play into Homer/Hesiod's version where they had a happy ending with eighteen children.
EDIT: I would compare it to how everyone wants OH percy to be the bad guy in some sort of gender war to make medusa more like a victim
Hestia felt amazingly happy with the change of pace in her family nowadays. From the simplest of changes of Zeus beating Hades at being a st
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I'll be honest with you. There is no version where that's actually the case.
Most people's opinion of that comes from playing chinese whispers based off the biased and honestly pretty wrong view from OSP
Let's be honest-the real reason people hate Jason is because he cheated on Medea.
That's the big issue, riaht? She sacrificed evervthing for him, and in return, he marries another woman. But the wav people reduce the whole situation to that one act is incrediblv shallow. It makes vou wonder how many have actually read Medea and how many watched OSP's video and took Red's words at face value--especiallv considering how much she omits ust to paint Medea as a blameless victim and Jason as pure evil
But Jason didn't marry Creusa just to upgrade to a "hot new wife."
The situation was far more complex. After Medea killed Pelias, thev were both exiled and hac nowhere to go. They were desperate, vulnerable, and needed the protection of a powerful allv-specifically King Creon, whose daughter was Creusa. Jason's marriage to her was a strategic move to secure safetv for his children and ensure they wouldn't fall victim to enemies cause remaining in exile would've meant certain danger for all of them.
Contrary to what people say, Jason didn't abandon Medea either.
In Seneca's version, he begs Creon not to kill her-Creon feared Medea might retaliate against his daughter. Moved by Jason's pleas, Creon chooses exile over execution.
Even in Euripides' play, Jason pleads with Creon to let Medea stay. Creon initially agrees, but Medea's own relentless cursing of the royal family pushes him to expel her.
And Jason didn't just wash his hands of her either. In both versions, he offers to provide for Medea and their children, using his new political position. He wants to ensure her safety and wellbeing, but Medea, consumed hate/ vengeance outright refuses and you already know the rest
She treated her children as pawns in her revenge against Jason.
Just look at the Euripides play. It opens with Medea saying she no longer feels love for her kids. and even the nurse warns them to stav away because their mother might lash out. Yes Medea hesitates at times about killing them, but in the end, hurting Jason mattered more to her than keeping her own children alive. She literallv savs that, as their mother, she had the right to end their lives iust as she gave them. She'd rather they die by her hand than suffer in exile-an exile caused bv her own reckless actions against the royal family.
And in Seneca's version? It's even more chilling. Jason offers Medea anvthing she wants for her exile-except the children. He can't let them ao because thev're the only reason he lives. And Medea's response? "Oh, so he loves his children? Now 1 know how to hurt him." That's not maternal love; that's weaponization.
As someone who decided to bite the bullet and actually read the play. I don't know how ii mutated into this "medea was the victim situation."
Honestly, it just seems like a case of the greeks liking their tragedy and not wanting to play into Homer/Hesiod's version where they had a happy ending with eighteen children.
EDIT: I would compare it to how everyone wants OH percy to be the bad guy in some sort of gender war to make medusa more like a victim
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Jason's my favorite 5 star servant
I still think its very funny how uninterested I was in Lostbelt 5 but then I played Atlantis and now Im crying with happines for every time I see Jason. Crying even harder if its with Argonauts or Neo Argonauts. First I didnt care then I found him funny and now Im working to grail him to 120.
Yes, Lostbelt 6 had very interesting story etc etc but Atlantis gave me brainrot,new blorbos and goal to get all Argonauts.
(And dreams that would never come aka Rider Jason.)
I just really love those moments when a story takes my hand and is like "I make you love that one.".And it works! Suprise faves are the best!
Would Jason pass the Tiamat Vibe Check?
Yes
No
Yes, but…
No, unless…
Context:
Okay but like, why isn't Corday×Jason more popular? She literally feels a natural impulse to care for him
This Grail front event has taught me that, deep down, we're all Jason. Debuff Saber? Heracles. Death applyingAssassin? Heracles. Other Berzerkers? Heracles. The answer to every problem is Heracles.