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Ranting about The trio’s introduction that will never be not through my throat

Playing Hidden Truth will forever not be not the most painful experience I had to go through.

Look. As much as I love the Time Travel trio and as much as I think that Fates saved their characters (except Owain. Owain was already awesome so him as Odin was just him being more awesome. But Inigo and Severa had some serious character redemption)... I think the way they arrived in the game just *****. Because it was one of Fates’ biggest plot hole.

The main problem is that Hidden Truth has WAAAAY too much important informations to remain a simple DLC. It’s not even comparable to Awakening Future of Despair because Future of Despair and Infinte Regalia are bonus maps with implications of world building that makes stuff cool but is overall not really THAT important for the plot. Sure we know what happened to the Shepherds of the future killed by Grima in the failed timeline and we know where Morgan comes from but those informations are more of a sub plot since the only real plot relevant Time Traveler in Awakening is Lucina. BUT HIDDEN TRUTH !!!

It mentions the human half of Anankos, who is Corrin’s true father, many stuff about Valla and Lilith and so on and so on. AND most importantly : IT MADE THE TIME TRAVEL TRIO TOO MUCH OF AN IMPORTANT CHARACTER FOR THEM TO JUST SIT AROUND IN NOHR AND WAIT TO BE INTRODUCED IN THE LATTER CHAPTER OF FATES AND REVELATIONS!!!

Seriously ? Anankos send them to save the world by helping his child to kill him and they just.... stay in Nohr to brush Lady Camilla’s hair, cook tomatoes for Lord Leo and prepare tea for Lord Xander... EXCUSE ME ?!

I mean yeah Anankos never mentionned who was Corrin but the DLC does mentions that Anankos’s kid was in Hoshido then got kidnapped.... SO UNLESS NOBODY EVER MENTIONS CORRIN BEING THE STOLEN CHILD FROM HOSHIDO THEY HAVE NO EXCUSE TO NOT KNOW THAT !! AND THAT’S ESPECIALLY TRUE ONCE YOU PLAY CONQUEST SINCE CORRIN ALREADY LEARN THE TRUTH ABOUT THEM NOT BEING NOHRIAN!!! WAS MAKING THE CONNECTION REALLY TOO HARD ?! And don’t get me started on Lilith... seriously ? They worked at the same PLACE!! Unless Lilith never interacted with others servants because she stayed with Corrin in the fortress... but there’s a weird thing about not being sure whether or not the Trio met Corrin or not due to Odin and Selena complaining that Corrin doesn’t recognize them while Laslow is the only one who has a somewhat normal introduction that doesn’t make you question things.....

But yeah. This made them way too much of an important character for them to stays minor characters but I am sure that the writer wanted them to come back into the sidekick squade cause they don’t have much impact on Fates’s plot asides from helping Corrin in maps in Conquest and being recruitable in Revelations.

While I understand that them being not recruitable is supposed to show that they have loyalty and stuff... MAKING THEM NEUTRAL WOULD HAVE MADE MORE SENSE SINCE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE HELPING CORRIN!!! This could have been done by them discovering that Corrin fits the description of the child Anakos told them about and deciding to join them for that in Birthright and their support tackling this topic in Conquest. But as I am convinced that they wrote Hidden Truth AFTER Revelations since it was the 2nd DLC wave (and the last for overseas release) i have a feeling they just thought it would be cool to give them such a connection. I says that but since they always hint at their support, at least in their S support with Corrin that they will have to leave, MAYBE it’s not entirely exact either. Seriously ? was it that hard to make them recruitable in Birthright, not change a thing for the other routes, but give them special supports depending on which route you have ? THEY DID IT FOR AZURA COME ON!! They could have did for those 3 and also have them involves just a liiiiittle bit more in Revelations plot but NOPE. WAS NOT GONNA HAPPEN!

Still would have made more sense for them to be Corrin’s retainer but I am sure that the writers did not intended that. They just wanted them to be back as side character while not giving them to much of a spotlight in the main story. HA HA HA!! can’t believe they failed that. Sorry, no. You gave them too much importance for them to not either be Corrin’s retainer or neutral. That’s just the logical consequence of what should have happened.

Another solution would have been to insert the three as the ACTUAL children of Cordelia, Olivia and Lissa. Remember : none of the future kids is the actual Shepherds kids due to multiverse. They would be hence the actual children from Olivia, Lissa and Cordelia but their name would be different due to their mothers thinking that they should name them differently from their future counterpart and thus their actual names would then be Odin, Laslow and Selena. There it would then explain why on earth Laslow and Selena got married again when you already had paired them in your Awakening file and why they did not even mentioned be together in that timeline and would solve the whole thing about whether or not it count as cheating that they are married another person than in Awakening or even having to make it make sense by even more multiverse by imagining that the canon timeline took place after they traveled to Fates hence that they themselves are from a timeline where the canon events took place and AJHHPKJVHGCUIUOUYCHJVJ -- my head... But the problem here is that it would also be against the writers plan of Fates being before Awakening and after Awakening at the same time (time travel cursed thee) since that would make Hoshido and Nohr countries that developped after Awakening and still exist along with Ylisse but were never talk about and in terms of world building it is less good compared to imagine that Hoshido is the ancestor place of Lonq’u and Say’ri’s homeland, Cho’sin, and that Nohr was at some point in the local localizations of Ylisse or any country that as Western aspects....

But since we can’t have them joined Hoshido because loyalty nor them being Corrin’s retainer due to plot importance nor make them being the Shepherds girls’s actual children without having to create another interruption in the FE franchise’s timeline that is already a real mess to understand , the only way of making them comes to Fates’s universe without falling into the trap was to.... give them a silly reason to be here.

You heard me. That’s the only way. Them being here because of their stupidity was actually, not a better, but a LESS damaging idea of insering fan service characters.

So if I had to rewrite their arrival on Fates in a way that doesn’t create any more plot hole than the one cause by the sole existence of the Invisible Kingdom.....

I think I would do it this way :

- In Awakening, after Grima is defeated all of the kids try to find a way so that they could get back to their timeline in order to rebuilt their own world since the Grima of the failed timeline was killed in the canon timeline, it means that the failed timeline has no Grima anymore and they still wish to get back to their true Ylisse and offers their parents a proper burial.

- They split to search for ways and one of the team is composed of Owain, Severa and Inigo. So they travel and somehow manages to find a time crystal that can help them open a Outrealm gate to their timeline.

If I had to write like a DLC though, this format would make the info I mentionned above being part of the expositon given.

In a DLC chapter format, you would have the thing open with Severa scolding Owain and/or Inigo for having messed up and explaining the random info that I mentionned above. They obviously don’t recongnize the scenery but they know it’s not their dimension. So they would hence try to gather info about the place they are in before having to fight ennemies and then by the end of the DLC level, we would have a dialogue where they learn that they are in Nohr. Owain, being the historical nerd he is would explain to the two that they made a mistake, activated the time travel crystal by accident and ended up traveling in time again but not to their future, but to an even more distant past than the Awakening canon timeline. As a result, the 3 would be downed, not exactly fine with being stuck in a world that is even more distant to their future than 10 years early. I mean being in their shoes, travelling 10 years before they are born, even if it is in a parallel world, is not exactly a situation that did not cause weird stuff. So imagine that now they are in a world where not only their parents, THEIR ANCESTORS MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN BORN YET!!! So they would try to find a way to make it back to the world of Awakening aka the canon timeline since their priorities would be to reunite with their friends and also because coming back to the failed timeline without them is not exactly a good idea since they planned to get back there together, all 12 (I am obivously not counting Morgan for obvious reason that I will explain later) and hence they would work to find a way to get out of this pinch. But because of Owain’s chunibyo, they end up taking covers name and changes their apperance. Owain would try to justify it by pretending that they have to be careful of their actions in this world as if they do some important changes, it will create a new future and so on but he actually just wanted to use secret identity like Luci did by pretending to be Marth to sound cool too but since it’s a silly reason he has to come up with that nonsensical excuse that doesn’t really convice much Severa and Inigo, but they go along well and comes up with the new identity stuff with changing their appearance to fit the landscape and Owain would take the opportunity to become a sorcerer because the conversations that they had in Hidden truth would still happen. And then due to shenanginans and sue, they end up working for the Nohrian Royals, explaining why they can’t be neutral, would stay and still not put too much of a focus on them. Maybe them discovering that in order to travel back in time they must go to Garon’s castle because they heard rumors about the castle having magic artefacts that can allow to travel across the timeline or that they have to go through it so that they can find the Dragon Gate that allows to time travel (as prouven by Before Awakening).

See ? That sure makes a lot of the plot stuff about them comes off as silly and stupid but at least no plot hole and no weird stuff such as Anankos wanting them to change their identities despite no one knowing them (or maybe Anankos knew their child would reincarnate into Robin idk) and so on and so on. And it doesn’t give them an actual purpose that contradicts the plot. They would have their own reason, trying to return home and because of this, instead of making them retainer from a long moment, maybe fresh retainer of new recruites for the Nohrian army. And no more me wondering about how none of them, espiecially chunibyo boi, not commenting on Nohr and Hoshido’s name when Chrom’s great knowledge in history made him comment on how “there is not a single person who hasn’t heard about Nohr and Hoshido, the mythical kingdoms”. There it’s all fixed.

And if I don’t mention Morgan it’s because... well you do know that it is pretty much acknowledged that M!Corrin represents Brithright/Hoshido while F! Corrin represents Conquest/Nohr. Welll... that means that technically the three of them were envisonned comming from a timeline where Robin is .... female.

“What ? What makes you say that ?” Robin is Corrin’s reincarnation regardless of gender. In their support and interactions with Corrin, at least for Odin and Laslow, the support definetely hints at the one that they had with F! Robin. Indeed in his conversationw with M! Robin, Owain mentions his own fanfiction while he seeks F!Robin’s help to find a name for his sword. In Fates, with bothe Corrin, Odin seeks their help to name his pose. In his support with M!Robin, Inigo complains about not getting girls, while in his support with F!Robin, he hits on her and then the A support is he giving salve around, including to her. Just like the conversation he has with both Corrin except the writer remplace him hitting on Corrin with him asking him to be his wingman when Corrin is male. But well it’s pretty obvious that those are references to their conversation with F!Robin and that means that they copy pasted the support they wrote for them with F! Corrin for M! Corrin and changed a few things, hence why no reference to the kind of support they had with M! Robin but only with F! Robin. Moreover in Selena and Laslow’s B support, the japanse version has Selena stares at him until he is embarassed, which is exactly what F!Robin did to Inigo in their B support. And Hidden truth also made a whole point about Inigo wandering aroung with salve in his bag while and Severa hinting at him not liking being stared too much... (I wonder if F!Robin taught her the trick). So yeah that makes me think that regardless of your Corrin’s gender, they were supposed to come from a universe where Robin is female due to the writers having most likely decided to use F!Corrin as a default for Conquest and most likely based most of the supports around her before copy pasting to M!Corrin.

Anyway, there you go. An actual reason to have them here. Is it as dumb as it originally was ? Yes. Is it even less of an actual good reasons for them to come here as it originally was ? Yes. Does this make it even more appear as just a silly excuse to have them being in Fates just to appease the fangirls and fanboys ? Yes.

But at least. It makes more sense. them being here for stupid reason is at least finally acknowledged fully. They still are gonna be incompetents fools but not for the same reasons.