#ffs pirelli

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Russell and Latifi’s tyres both were 30/31 laps old, felt fine and then gave up. These were the hards that were meant to last 40 laps.

McLaren also found a puncture on Norris’ 25 lap old hards

[race-week]

According to Pirelli it’s 30 laps for the mediums, 40 for the Hards

[race-week]

How and why are the Pirelli tyers this useless and this unreliable. They’re just not sustainable at all are they 🙃

It’s not a track that really suits F1 and the Pirelli tyres as it has huge lateral loading, seeing as this was a track that we didn’t even know was on the calendar a few months ago it’s not like Pirelli could have made a stronger tyre.

The numbers they give the teams are from simulations and no one really had any data about how this would work, but yes it is massively embarrassing and dangerous, probably worse than Baku.

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Your tyres failed because you made the wrong call, gave teams the wrong information and endangered drivers - end of story

[race-week]

I’ve just remembered that Zandvoort is coming up after the break and part of the new banking there is 18 degrees, this is twice as steep as the Indianapolis banking was when F1 used to race there.

I don’t fully trust Pirelli.

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What Pirelli is going to blame the Baku tyre failures on has now been rumoured to be the teams figuring out a way to get around the tyre pressure requirements.

The FIA monitors the cars tyre pressures before they go out on track (they and Pirelli will set the required front and rear pressures for the weekend) and then gets a feed of data from sensors that have been developed by the teams.

The rumour is that teams are meddling with their sensors; and running lower tyre pressures (which make the tyre grippier) before the data is corrected by an algorithm within the sensor and the corrected data is sent to the FIA feed.

Next year all teams will be using the same sensor which the FIA will be able to read live without it going through the teams first.

This is potentially a really serious allegation and I hope that they don’t decide to run with this, I still am of the belief that the tyres Pirelli provided were not suitable for the job at hand and there have been plenty of other cases where this point also runs true (Silverstone 2013, Spa 2015, Austria 2016, Silverstone 2020 and now Baku 2021, all of these tracks have similar characteristics and the tyres failed on a long straight as opposed to a corner where they experience the most loading)

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honestly I'm FURIOUS with pirelli. Ever since they entered the sport they've had periods where the tyres have failed due to errors on their part and every single time it gets handwaved away because it "doesn't happen all the time". It introduces a completely avoidable and unnecessary danger to the race.

The thought that they used softer tyres this weekend for the SPECTACLE is bad enough, but the most damning thing of all is that as we saw with the last two laps the racing is actually BETTER when the drivers don't have to worry so much about nursing their tyres. Therefore using harder tyres would have given the spectacle they wanted to gamble safety on.

Sorry I'm just so fucking mad. How many times does this need to happen before they learn

Don’t apologise for being mad I’m fuming, it’s causing unnecessary danger, we should team up and direct all our anger at Pirelli

I know that’s my exact opinion, what infuriates me is that Pirelli can make tyres that degrade less as it was an option to bring them into F1 but decided against it because and I quote “fans like the drama of pit stops and tyre degradation” like I’m all for a strategy race but tyres aren’t only the strategic advantage, and besides I’d much prefer to not see tyres blowing up.

It’s annoying but I expect to see this brushed under the rug like the tyre blowouts that Hamilton, Bottas, Sainz and Kvyat all had at Silverstone last year.

Make good race tyres Pirelli, that’s all we ask.

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Pirelli have now put out a press release about the tyre failures in Baku

I highly recommend you go and read it if you are interested but I’ll try and summarise it

They looked at other rear tyres that had done a similar amount of laps as Stroll and Verstappen and determined that there was no production or quality defect on any of the tyres

There was no signs of fatigue or delamination of the tyres either (which would indicate overuse)

In both cases there was a break on the inner sidewall of the tyres which has been put down to “the running conditions”

This is indicative that they were initially going to run with the story that the teams were trying to run lower tyre pressures than allowed, Red Bull since came out themselves and said that they proved to the FIA and Pirelli that they weren’t

Typically “running conditions” means the temperature that the tyres are kept in the blankets and the tyre pressures which were both followed

In this case it does hint towards Pirelli admitting that they made a mistake with the tyres, or that it is a poor design choice which has serious implications for the rest of the season

This is as close as we will get to Pirelli accepting blame so we can celebrate the small victories and be glad that the incidents weren’t more serious

THE REASONS BEHIND THE TYRE FAILURES IN BAKU IDENTIFIED

Pirelli, in conjunction with the FIA, has completed the analysis of the left-rear tyres involved in the incidents that affected Lance Stroll