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Just saw another post about how shipping BruceBabs is disgusting and practically "incest" (which it's already a dumb argument because they've never been daughter and father coded in any way, at most friendly coworkers) and so so despicable because she's his son's partner and what more
And because i've reached a point where I no longer give a fuck in this fandom, I'm going to say something:
Shipping Brubabs makes way more sense than shipping Dickbabs. And there's nothing wrong about it
Because, for one: Barbara Gordon is a grown ass woman, full adult with a developed frontal lobe and more than enough life experience on her belt to be with whoever the hell she wants to be. She and Bruce wouldn't be "pedophilic" as some dumbly claim. It would be a case of two adults with an age gap dating. As long as she consents, it's normal.
And TWO: A lot of you here don't know this because you were too young or not even born, but Barbara was originally created to be, quite literally, Bruce's ideal love interest. That's it. Batgirl debuted as a female partner to complement Batman and canonically had a crush on Bruce. Even more, she was pushed even further into this role to discredit Catwoman as Batman's love interest, because back then they casted a black woman to play her and, being the era it was, they inmediately rushed to show a white woman to pair Bruce with as the "better" one. The disposable black gf trope is as old as the sun.
Ignoring race bullshit, you can't claim to know Barbara and deny or completely ignore her origins. You may disagree with them and all, sure, as I do disagree a lot when it comes to her character, but seeing people nowadays clutch their pearls when people ship her with Bruce makes me laugh and it's so dumb, especially when they use her relationship with Dick as a reason to hate it.
Reminder❗: Barbara had to be DE AGED, aka change the age she was created with and therefore re-shaping her whole history as Batgirl, with just to be paired with Dick. DC already attempted something by having Dick have a puppy crush on her and that one scene where she forcefully kissed him to "shut him up" This scene arised so many complaints from readers about how weird it was (Barbara was ten years older than Dick and he was still a teenager) and how badly it made Barbara look, that I guess they dropped it entirely and kept her being in love with Bruce, who was much closer to her in age. Eventually, I assume as soon as someone gave them the green light for it, they realised they had to make her younger to make the pairing "attractive" for the public and still had to do multiple retcons for both her and Dick that dismantled their already established backstories in order for them to make sense as a couple. They basically changed Barbara as a character, down to her very roots, just to push for Dickbabs. They ruined Dick's lore with the Titans, his relationship with Bruce, his role in Bludhaven and his romance with Kory (which was very well developed and they complemented each other without erasing their own individual identities) for this, and in return, they also ruined Barbara and her history as Batgirl, her motives and her identity for this.
Original Barbara, the first Batgirl, the one shipped with Bruce, was a congresswoman, an adult with a long time job who knew Dick since he was a kid. She was Batman's equal. She was literally created to be. She fit with him and his lifestyle without really having to change much, because it was already written in her. And even if you didn't ship them, you could still see them as friends and partners without screwing up Barbara's character. Even now, after all the retcons she went through, you can still ship them because they're both adults and still have enough story in common to be paired together (although I agree, shipping her feels iffy when it's within the context of her having met Bruce as a teenager, Dick's age appropiate partner in crime, instead of an adult but that's another thing)
But if you ship her with Dick, just so you know, they completely changed her character to make her "appropiate" to be his girlfriend. It's CANONICALLY the reason she got de aged. She was perfectly fine as Batgirl in her original age, it didn't affect the plot to change it until someone in DC I guess wanted to project on Dick with his crush on an older woman and decided he had to make it a reality by all means necessary.
So, next time you feel disgusted when seeing Bruce x Barbara or feel the need to complain because of Dick or anything. Just so you know, they make more sense within their characters' context than Dickbabs does lol
Stay safe, drink water and read comics before making statements. Love you all ❤
Does anyone ever think about the fact that Jason loved classic literature but he couldn't have been reading it at school because he didn't go to school.
So instead he went to Gotham public library and devoured as many books as he could. And maybe librarian Barbara Gordon noticed this kid was in the library all the time without ever having a guardian with him, so she started chatting to Jason about the books he read and recommending him new ones. When she realised he'd stopped going to school, she made sure he had books at his reading level, and gave him impromptu lessons in history and geography, and encouraged his love of engineering. If a book he borrowed ever got lost or damaged, she waived the fine, because she knew he hadn't done it on purpose. If he fell asleep at a desk, she didn't bother him, because he had eyebags like smudges of soot. If he needed or wanted to stay late at the library, she didn't ask questions, she just offered him a glass of water and some cookies from the secret stash in her office. Eventually, he confided in her about his home life, about his mother's illness and addiction. He was vague about his father's criminal activities, but Barbara could guess.
When she went to Jason's funeral, she wasn't only mourning Robin, she was mourning the kid she'd watched grow up, who loved books and always smiled and joked, despite everything the world had thrown at him.
Awwwww
Babs taking her daddy’s advice
Canary is so much better than me because if that were me, I’d have been sitting in his lap at that restaurant before Babs even finished inviting me
I recently read Batgirl new 52. At first I didn't like it at all, but later I joined in. Overall, this is not the worst run of the new 52 (catwoman n52's run was many times worse). No, Barbara didn't become my favorite character, but I wouldn't say that this run disappointed me. In general, I liked it more than I didn't like it. In general, I consider this project to be a good one.
in general, I can say that I liked it more than I didn't like it. In honor of this, I decided to draw Barbara.