#flipsaken

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So, related to your “tell me about guest 1337” response… I have to know.

If killers and survivors agreed not to hurt each other between rounds and can sort of interact with each other…

Can 007n7 and c00lkidd see each other again?

In short—yes, but not without restriction.

There seems to be some kind of invisible force preventing one player from setting up their living situation in a different campsite. This means that while 7n7 and c00lkidd can most definitely be with each other again, there’s a barrier. c00lkidd can’t move in with the survivors, and 7n7 can’t move in with the killers. The best they can do is arrange times to spend together since they can’t really live together.

Additionally, 1x developed a very parental role over c00lkidd prior to the campsites becoming able to access each other. She also thinks very lowly of 7n7 and believes he didn’t try hard enough for c00lkidd presaken.

It isn’t true to say that 1x keeps c00lkidd away from 7n7, but it is true to say that her presence and role in c00lkidd’s life causes some…problems.

And it doesn’t help that 7n7 and Shedletsky are friends.

1x is very afraid of Shedletsky pulling some kind of strings to “take c00lkidd away from her”, and her low opinion of 7n7 makes this paranoia worse. Since Guest is close with both 7n7 and 1x, he does their best to mediate, helping the two come to agreements and truces.

7n7 doesn’t entirely know the extent to which 1x thinks of him. He knows she thinks of him badly, but he assumes it’s because 1x knows Noli personally, and, well, it’s not like 7n7 was the best to Noli. Surprisingly, though, 7n7 actually thinks really highly of 1x—the main reason he agrees to the co-parenting.

It’s even a relief to him that c00lkidd has additional family members now, even though that makes him feel a little guilty.

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And in another world,

You told me it was okay.

That nothing is forever,

And we’re a lot like the same.

And in another world,

We’d known each other all our lives.

We’d graduated together,

And came from the same orphanage.

And in another world,

You told me I was beautiful.

That I was the prettiest thing you’d seen,

The most lovely creation yet.

And in another world,

We were on the same side.

Just trying to survive,

Trying not to fight.

And in another world,

Those thoughts are careless and fleeting.

For it matters not when you entered my life,

Just that you did at all.

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I think I figured out what I want to do with Noli. While I was brainstorming about other myths and exploiters, I thought a lot about nonexistence and the accumulation of one user’s actions creating another person. I’m gonna tryy and write this in a comprehensible way.

Originally, I had it written off that myths were derived from Admins and came to existence through the instability of Robloxia’s code and magic. However I have a different idea now: all myths come from the 4th dimension and are brought into the 3rd dimension (Robloxia) through some form of artifact. 4th dimensional beings are abstracted, existing and not existing simultaneously, they’re conceptual and not something the 3rd dimension is able to fathom (due to being a smaller degree), which is why they need physical anchor points if they’re to exist in the 3rd dimension.

For 1x, that’s the Viridian Domino Crown. This crown was made by Telamon and 2x2 in the contract that allowed 1x to exist in the 3rd dimension. 1x doesn’t have to constantly be wearing the crown in order to exist (and often didn’t when she was younger) but control over the crown means control over her. Destroy or imprison it and destroy or imprison her as well. Of course, this wasn’t known for a very long time; this was the first instance of anchoring a 4th dimensional being into the 3rd dimension.

Now, here’s what I finally figured out for Noli. Noli, the myth, is a separate entity from Noli, the Forsaken character. It’s unknown who among the Admins created the Void Star, but it might not have been an Admin at all. It might’ve been 1x. But, regardless of who made the Void Star, the being Noli was attached to it. Upon being anchored into the 3rd dimension, the classic Noli myth plays out. Exploiter, hacker, ghost account with wiped data, surplus of alt accounts, and cult leader. Let’s even say he was the author of the Necrobloxicon. After all the damaged he’d caused, the Admins found a way to contain him: imprison the Void Star. Noli was now trapped within the crown for as long as the crown was imprisoned, which was looking to be forever.

…Until someone called Void stole it after being coerced by 7n7. You see, both of them had a fascination with these long-lost myths. Void especially took an interest in Noli specifically, making him more willing to listen to 7n7 and steal the Void Star. When Void stole it, the abstracted Noli was now free. However, Noli took an interest in Void, giving him a couple months, maybe even a year before making a move. Noli learned about Robloxia’s current state by observing the exploiter duo of 7n7 and Void. After he was satisfied, his being overpowered Void’s, wiping his account data and stealing not just his body but also his mind. Void has limited control over his mind, even less over his body, and can hardly verbally express his own thoughts unless he acts like a soundboard and mashes up a bunch of audio he hears. Noli, on the other hand, isn’t completely sentient either, and it’s not exactly a typical plural situation. Neither of them exist as wholes anymore, more as fractures, and even when you add them, it’s not quite a whole. That’s why none of Noli’s ingame audio is really…original. It’s all just memes and clips from others. His attacks mirror 7n7 and c00lkidd because of Void’s relationship and because 7n7/Void were who Noli observed before trying to reclaim his own existence. 

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So… tell me about 007n7 please.

(I hunger for content on this man)

Ooh yay!! 7n7 ask!! I honestly think about 7n7 a lot more than you’d think considering how little I’ve posted about him on this blog but then again do I really post about anyone other than 1x? /silly 

anyway, it’s a little late for me, so this is gonna be a rambly mess rather than anything properly formatted or with bullet points

Okay so part of the reason I love 7n7 is because when I was a kid, I was OBSESSED with Roblox myths and hackers, and a huge part of my fixation was c00lkidd/007n7. So when I got into Forsaken and learned about their character counterparts, I was ECSTATIC! But also, funny enough, that actually makes some parts of headcanoning 7n7 REALLY hard

For one, I’m honestly not sure how old he is. For the past while I’ve been writing him off as being 25-28, just a little bit younger than Elliot. A lot of Elliot/7n7 stuff paints Elliot as younger and 7n7 as older, but I’ve always kind of envisioned it as the opposite way around. I really don’t think 7n7 would be 30+ and letting his kid act that way and be so destructive, especially if he’d been trying to reform after the incident with Noli and the Void Star. I always imagined him as a young father who got handed a, like, 2 year old and had no clue what to do. I really, really don’t see him as neglectful or careless enough to just let his kid do fuck all. Another reason I’ve been seeing him as younger is because of real-life hacker influence. I REALLY think he was just a stupid teenager in his prime of terrorizing Elliot and Builder Brother’s, and that he and Elliot were close friends at the time. This kind of delves into my thoughts about Elliot, where he doesn’t really make friends easily and clings onto the few people he has, so I think he was super clingy to 7n7 and resistant to letting his parents ban 7n7. I also really think that 7n7 and Elliot are scarily similar people, just presenting a bit differently. I like exploring that dynamic a lot in creative works, where two people are INCREDIBLY similar but seem super different because of how they present themselves. Forsaken set them up to have a really fascinating dynamic anywayyyy imo…

Soo yeah um. Usually I start these posts off with generic/basic information but I genuinely haven’t settled on any of that for 7n7 yet, other than bigender truthing him. That general stuff just really isn’t something I’ve explored much in depth with him yet. 🤔

I think about him a lot more in the sense of history and dynamics with other characters. I’ll focus there and start this off with my hot take that c00lkidd is actually biologically related to him but in a fucked up way. I think c00lkidd is the result of Roblox’s systems not being able to process alt accounts, which made 7n7’s teenage alter ego funnel into a new person, c00lkidd. However, c00lkidd only came to existence after 7n7 put that alter ego down and tried to become a better person, which happened after the incident with Noli and a car wreck that killed his older brother 7e7 but left 7n7 with insane survivor’s guilt. Sorry for immediately going into this with horrible angst. The survivor’s guilt relates to why he’s a survivalist ingame. He’s scared of being in groups and sees himself like a bad luck charm, scared that if he sticks around the others too long in a fight, that they’ll get killed and he’ll survive again. I think that 7n7 has always had a weird survival streak his whole life and has survived a lot of things that should’ve killed him. Anyway, getting back to him and c00lkidd. 7n7 did his best but it was subpar. To be fair, he was barely a legal adult when c00lkidd entered his life, and his only parent (single mom) had died a couple years prior. I think he was orphaned when he was 15? 16? And managed to bide his time and live alone without suspicion being raised. As for his brother 7e7, he was considerably older and let’s just say they weren’t on talking terms. They were only in that car together because they were trying to catch up and rebuild their bond. Anyway, I keep getting off track. When 7n7 was in his teenage prime, he lived with Noli, who was early in college. They had a really weird and hard to describe relationship where it was kind of brotherly/cousinly, partners in crime sort of schtick. For sake of understanding, I’d guess that 7n7 was like,,,16? And Noli’s mental age around 19-20 at the time? Myths function really weirdly with age and are usually completely exempt from age unless they have something specified about them. 7n7 was really clingy to Noli and constantly wanted to impress him so I think that’s what led to the incident with the Void Star…they only had a few more months together before the Void Star started truly consuming Noli. I think 7n7 was older when that happened, and I don’t really know yet where c00lkidd comes in here. A little before? A little after? I love the dynamics I’ve seen others make where Noli knew c00lkidd pre-VS but I think it’s a lot more interesting to explore the dynamic of Noli only meeting c00lkidd in the forsaken realm and projecting his hate and pain onto c00lkidd instead of 7n7. 

Oh goddd I’ve already been writing for 40 minutes. Auughh

Umm, another dynamic that’s really important to me is 7n7 and Guest 1337. This one’s really hard for me to put into words because it really just makes me super emotional, but it’s the fact that Guest is really the only survivor who’s giving 7n7 an meaningful chance…he knows how easily it is to be ostracized based on your race (guests, exploiters) and he’s really set on assessing 7n7’s character purely from his own eyes and experiences. I think he gets upset with the other survivors for avoiding and distrusting 7n7, maybe even to the point of full blown verbal fights. He really doesn’t tolerate any form of racism and will lose his shit on survivors that make racial comments about 7n7. The good thing is that this hasn’t happened in a long time, because they’ve been seeing new perspectives of 7n7. I think Guest really contributed to 7n7 developing a better sense of worth, even with all his insecurities and low self esteem. 7n7 respects Guest a lot and Guest loves the guy as a friend. They talk about their kids a lot, and Guest has been showing 7n7 how to cook, since the guy never properly learned. Guest gives him a lot of parenting advice I think. In my mind they are best friends and spin around in circles.  I dunno this doesn’t feel like I’ve done justice for how important their friendship is to me,,,I had to be careful typing this out so that I didn’t start crying because tbh I project onto their dynamic because even though the racism I’ve experienced isn’t nearly to any of those extremes and has mostly just been verbal aggressions, I have been treated horrifically for being disabled, and outcast a lot, so I take a lot of comfort and projection onto dynamics where characters are chronic outcasts and bond together and one defends the other to others too and ausurjgsjldjdgdkvddkdb ;;;

Umm for some more light hearted things, I’m a doggy AND demon 7n7 truther lol. I think he has floppy dog cheese ears that stick out from his burger and I think he has a doggy tail ;; he has little red horns too but they’re just itty bitty and his bangs can cover them well. He’s a lot more “domesticated” than when he was a teen, when he was a teenager he really sucked and was def an incel redditor type of guy but nowadays he’s more reserved. Tbh he was always the reserved and anxious type, his alter ego just gave him a crazyyy ego boost. I also like playing around with the idea that 7n7 is a bacon, I think he dyes his hair and stuff to obscure it because “it’s already bad enough that I’m an exploiter” and he’s worried about Guest not liking him anymore but Guest already has his mind made up about 7n7 and it’s positive thoughts. Sorry that got a bit sad for a sec when I said it’d be more light hearted 😭 

Anyway :3 have a little doodle of the guy while I figure out his design

He’s just a critter…

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We have been working on a lineup reference sheet for our four Roblox OCs’ Forsaken AU. It has been very fun drawing them and we will continue tomorrow. Underneath are pictures of their corresponding Roblox avatars.!

If you would like, you may ask us questions about them and their Forsaken AU. We quite enjoy talking about our characters.!