#futs negative

[heretherebedork]

Just read your description... You don't like MorkPi? As in, Fish Upon the Sky MorkPi? Nkzkzhksldh why? (btw not trying to pick up on you, genuinely curious, and if you have already answered this before free feel to ignore it yah)

Oh, I have answered this many times over!

Why Do I Hate MorkPi (the romanticized abusive relationship on Thai BL in All The Links I could Find.

To sum it up? MorkPi is an emotionally abusive relationship where Mork is constantly manipulating Pi who is unable to extricate himself due to low self-esteem, social pressure and being constantly gaslit by a man who claim to love him but at no point can ever show it, talk about why.

Mork talks about loving Pi but never once helps him with the bullies pushing him around constantly, never tries to build him up or support him, never tries to help him be more comfortable at school., never listens to his requests (just be my friend, keep this a secret, stay away until i come to you), in fact regularly belittles him as an anonymous user that Pi considers his only friend, constantly explains Pi's emotions to him, forces Pi out of the closet by saying 'either you tell them exactly what you want or I'll tell them the truth about us' which is LITERALLY OUTTING HIM EVEN IF HE'D DENIED IT BECAUSE EVERYONE KNEW WHAT MORK MEANT, spoke to the internet fans even after Pi made it clear he wasn't comfortable with them and literally dragged Mork in front of them to deny any relationship and spent the interview with them claiming to know Pi's feelings better than him (a theme that is the heart of the show, actually) which is something he never truly apologized or made up for because he never went online and denied it or did a public apology for that... there's so damn much.

MorkPi is genuinely the most horrifying relationship to me because it's so romanticized and played in a show that's meant to be a comedy and lighthearted and sweet.

[heretherebedork]

Because I just saw it in your bio. Can I get your Top 3 reasons why MorkPi is bad? Hopefully this isn't coming off as judgey ! I'm super curious about why or why not certain 'ships are liked in shows

Oh, I have made so many posts about this...

Okay, let's go.

Mork spends a great deal of time gaslighting and emotionally abusing Pi. He constantly tells him one thing and does another, forces him to out himself as his boyfriend directly after Pi asks him not to in the bathroom, tells him he feels one way even when Pi explains he doesn't, repeatedly contacts the shippers and even conducts an interview with them after Pi specifically had him tell them they weren't going out so apparently fuck his feelings, you know.

Mork is, apparently, incapable of giving Pi any space. Every single time Pi asks for more space or time, Mork shows up give minutes later to force his way back into his space and affections and refuses to leave unless Pi goes to extreme measures and even then half the time he doesn't actually give him space at all.

At no point in the show does Mork recognize that Pi has any agency over his own body or his own emotions or his own thoughts. Every single time, Mork is 'right' about everything, dictates to Pi how he feels, what he thinks and why. Pi is given literally no agency over himself.

See here for a more lengthy diatribe

[heretherebedork]

So I note you say you're not keen on Fish Upon the Sky and I'm curious as to why. I know it was a bit meh and lots of people hated it but I've never got why (besides the shippers sub plot which was just dire). I liked the premise - that the hot boy actually fancied the geek first, and the geek whilst shy etc. doesn't run away from his feelings. So I think there was a lot there that could have been done better. Anyways your thoughts (or link to your thoughts at the time).

Not keen is an understatement.

Fish Upon the Sky was my least favorite BL of 2021 because it depicted a terrifyingly realistic abusive relationship in which Mork ignored every single boundary Pi tried to lay down, repeatedly gaslit him regarding his own wishes and feelings, never acknowledged Pi's feelings unless they agreed with his own and generally set himself up as what should have been the villain but instead was lauded as the romantic hero.

Some links!

Mork is the worst kind of nice guy

Mork has no real character outside of his obsession with Pi

Mork constantly tells Pi how he feels while ignoring what Pi says

Mork claims that Pi never needed to change to be seen but literally did not approach him until after he changed and also constantly demands that he change.

The FUTS Ultimate Challenge

Just fuck Mork, seriously

When does Mork ever show that he listens to Pi (spoiler: he doesn't!)

Pi has a genuine reason to be paranoid and scared and Mork dismisses it out of hand while manipulating him

All the ways FUTS failed at what it could have been

I like the premise as well.

But we didn't get the premise.

Because Mork literally did also run away from his feelings, hiding under a fake persona LONG after he was talking to Pi and then using his popularity to repeatedly manipulate Pi into the relationship, into his arms, into revealing their relationship, into staying in the relationship.

It's horrifying. I put Mork on a similar level to Kengkla but at least Kengkla was admitted to have done something wrong even remotely while Mork was put on a pedestal.

Anyway.

As I said so many times as it aired.

Ugh, FUTS.

[heretherebedork]

Mork: If you're not ready to open your heart, we can just be friends.

Mork: *never stops flirting with Pi*

Mork: *constantly pressures Pi for more*

Mork: *never actually lets Pi just be his friend*

Mork: *fights constantly for Pi to be more than his friend*

Mork: *never just lets Pi be or have a boundary*

Mork: *literally refuses to defend Pi to the stalkers until after they're dating*

Mork: But our relationship will totally be equal.