#gintaes

[saitouh]

Remember, according to gintaes, once you made the decision to "throw away" your womanhood or femininity when you were a fcking child, brainwashed by a fcking demented man who associated femininity with weakness, you must NEVER ever question that decision again. Also you have to wear a potato sack at all times and be devoid of makeup because HEELS AND MAKEUP ARE ONLY FOR GIRLS, they say. Also don't even fcking think of showing an arm or a thigh. I mean kagura as a 14-yr old was allowed to wear a slit down the side on her cheongsam but goddamn if tsukuyo has the same slit down the side of her kimono. Basically remember that there are these losers obsessed with tsukuyo so much that they spend every waking moment analysing and belittling her in comparison to the other girls. And to get people to LISTEN to their piss-poor shit arguments, they add lines such as "speaking as a tsukuyo fan" or "i am a tsukuyo fan", because as if that lends them some sort of credence in the face of absurdity.

[saitouh]

sometimes what gintaes say are worthy of a few giggles. for example, they constantly dismiss tsukuyo's feelings as irrelevant and "one-sided". but what about gintae? lmao

is gin even remotely romantically interested in otae?

i mean at least he has expressed interest in tsukuyo's body, told her she has a beautiful face, admitted to zenzou that he agreed with him - that she is amazing (as a student), and expressly told her himself she has a beautiful soul. told her to rely on him, cry on his shoulders, and that he will cry and laugh together with her. that's actually some pretty heavy stuff. even if they don't get together in the end, these are the things he has said to her and they are not dismissable.

you are so pressed, so jealous, that you made a fucking GIF to belittle tsukuyo, that she is just "one of the other insignificant girls gin hit on" when it is clear that she means a lot to him, as much as all the other people in kabukichou.

has otae even expressed any interest in gin??? lmao she wore the kimono kondou gifted to her. she hugged his roach mask to her chest. she shed tears FOR HIM. TWICE. she held an umbrella over his head and said "please don't catch a cold."

but apparently for you gintaes, what she did for kondou is ~kindness~ but any other "similar" expression of kindness toward gin is seen as ~romantic~

tsukuyo's love is one-sided. in any relationship charts, at least tsukuyo will have an arrow towards gin that says she loves him.

but you, gintaes? there is not a single arrow that can tie them together romantically other than labeling her as shinpachi's sister. there's basically n o t h i n g there.

you claim i am lying and i am only posting screen caps that support what i am saying. lmao what the fuck are you even on about? do people submit court evidence that don't support their claims? just what.

this is not a court case. i am not the internet. other people see your shit. you act like i am basically one person trying to convince the whole world of something that isn't there.

the fact is, i am basically just posting things what most people have already known. i am posting things that piss me off. i am not making shit up. and together with the screencaps, i explain WHY you piss me off.

again, i am not the internet. other people do not blindly read what i post and agree like drones.

they are free to look you up and all the shit you have said about tsukuyo, gintsuki and her fans. but of course, judging by your reaction towards these people on reddit, tumblr and elsewhere, anyone who have simply told you that there is NOTHING between gin and otae automatically is a "hater" despite the fact that they have NOT posted hate about otae in their debate with you or elsewhere.

no one has called otae childish names. there are people who dislike her and have wrongfully attributed her character negatively, but honestly? not that many people actually express their hate for her compared to what you gintaes and ginhijs have done towards tsukuyo. this whole site explodes to the brim with complaints each time tsukuyo made an appearance, even though she appears once every two years before the silver soul arc. does that even happen to otae??? people can't even draw gintsuki without ginhijs saying "stop posting so much gintsu in the gintama tag". does the tag belong to a specific subset of fandom? hmmm????

and the gintae anon harassing a gintsuki artist on tumblr with rude asks like, "tsukuyo just brings gintoki down unlike otae"

don't even dare to deny this. scroll the fck down far enough on the tsukuyo tag and you will find it

lmao why am i even repeating this shit

you people? instead have called tsukuyo names like tskewyo in picture MEMES (so don't make up the shit excuse that you don't want her name to show up in search. NO TEXT ON IMAGES WILL SHOW UP IN TEXT SEARCH) and mock gintsuki fans as "gintsuwus"

seriously drop the martyr act. it's fake and it's disgusting and it's not fooling me. it just further nauseates me.

[saitouh]

The problem with you, Gintaes, is how you act like every single character in gintama only exists to ship Gintae, or “prove” Gintae.

You are so wild and delusional it just beggars belief. 

I really, really don’t look you up. I block you for the very reason that: 

Your shit is just nasty beyond compare. 

But when friends show that shit to me, my switch just flips and I have to respond. This is something I am trying to work on -- but most times it always end up being “NAHHH FCK THEM I’M RESPONDING”

You act like you are absolutely faultless, that your metas are not hurting anyone, that we are just people who are over-reacting, that we are flipping shit onto the fan and ceiling for nothing. Lmao.

You can’t even see that you have, continually and specifically insulted every single girl for the very purpose of propping up your ship. Every girl has a role in the story. They don’t exist to pair other ships off. They don’t exist to PAIR YOUR SHIP OFF.

You actually expect people to believe that Sorachi wrote buried, subtle clues for you to discover -- like a fucking treasure hunt -- and that all these “hidden clues” point to one thing and one thing only -- Gintae is a real thing. 

This is what you keep expecting people to believe. 

Sorachi has fought with great difficulty, over the years, to submit his manuscript on time every single week. So far, he has failed TWICE to end his manga by the deadlines he has set for himself. He was given over 100 pages of extension, and he still failed to end this story. He is someone who has a stellar record of apologising for shit he forgot to draw, shit he forgot to add or implement, train of thoughts he had lost while writing, and instead tried to fix things by diverting his readers’ attention to something else so they don’t realise his fuck-ups. He constantly swerve out of any topic of conversation into a long spiel about the sun, the clouds, the cicadas. He is someone who had forgotten to draw Hijikata halfway through a chapter, and tried to rectify it by naming the chapter, “Hijikata disappeared beyond the mayo line”. An extra note, because you Gintaes are incapable of reading comprehension, I’m not insulting Sorachi. These are the things he had shared about himself.

But you, Gintaes - despite this very obvious and glaring character of Sorachi’s -- you actually believe that he has intrinsically, connivingly, and carefully buried a myriad of GINTAE HINTS like a shrewd mastermind, with the express intention to tell his readers that “omgerd gintama is really a story about gintae where all characters are just sidechicks and deltas to omegas while Gin and Otae are the only true alphas”

You then act like you are “WINNING” when people point out just how bizarre and irrational you are, you call people “threatened” when they provide you feedback. You don’t listen when people talk properly to you, and when I called you out for being insecure for resorting to cheap potshots directed at Tsukuyo in your metas, GIFs and whatever the fuck else you did, your very next response was to use the exact word “insecure” back on me. LMAO. So really, why should I even speak properly to you after all the shit you have splattered all over the place?

There’s no word to describe you but “infantile”. 

I remember when I wrote my Gintsuki post. The one where J-World organised a LOVE INCENSE EVENT for the characters, complete with couple-themed food items plus other popular characters’ food items.

You Gintaes jumped on that Tumblr post like crack was cruising through your veins at high velocity, and you ridiculed it for whatever reason when it had nothing to do with you. I wasn’t mad. I was delightfully amused. You really acted like you were pressed and jealous of the official J-World event. You even posted screencaps on it on Twitter, saying, “OMG IS THE BOKUTO IN THE POSTER POINTING AT TSKEWYO GINTOKI’S DICK?”

LMFAO.

It’s brazenly clear you are the ones who started shit, Gintaes. I don’t need to rack my brains to “frame” you. Everyone has seen that shit happening. My post had NOTHING to do with you. I talked about the LOVE INCENSE EVENT. I talked about Gintsuki and Kontae. 

I re-quote: 

OMG IS THE BOKUTO IN THE POSTER POINTING AT TSKEWYO GINTOKI’S DICK?

And yet now, you are acting like the bokuto Shinsuke had thrown at Otae is Gintoki’s dick.  

Hahaha.

Again, you all are fucking shameless. You always complain how people don’t ship Gintae outside of Japan, and how Japan is “on your side”. You can’t be more wrong and I’ll tell you two reasons why people don’t ship Gintae outside of Japan. 

One, because it’s actually no longer a thing in Japan itself, since IDK -- years and years ago.

There are so much more Gintsuki arts on Pixiv than Gintae arts, despite the fact that you have been around for far longer than us. 

And two, because of fucktard western fans like you, who turn people off the fandom. 

You say Sorachi is being “subtle”, but Sorachi’s writing has been anything but subtle.

He has always been straightforward. Every single romantic feelings in the series has always been explicitly stated. 

Mitsuba and Hijikata, Zura’s feelings for Ikumatsu, Kyuubei and Kondou’s love for Otae, Jirochou and Tatsugorou’s feelings for Otose, the list goes on and on -- NO ROMANTIC STORY in Gintama had ever been "subtle". Even for a piss minor character like Enshou -- we were actually told upfront that he had feelings for and stole his friend’s wife. All these things aren’t “subtle”. But here you are, claiming and pushing to other people like it’s a fact that Gintae is the ~only~ anomaly, with all its “wondrous subtleties”, and the hidden subtleties MUST CERTAINLY BE SORACHI TELLING US THAT GINTAE IS THE SHIP THAT will elicit a HAPPY EVER AFTER. 

What you’re willing people to believe in your metas, Gintaes, is that all the blatant romantic development Sorachi has created for all his characters means only one thing: Everyone and their feelings are completely dispensable.

Kondou, Kyuubei, Sacchan, Tsukuyo’s feelings have been written for the purpose of telling readers that it’s all futile. Because Gintama is such a series! Everyone’s love interests can go to hell, that they only exist to prove Gintae and Gintae alone. Everyone’s love is unrequited but beautiful (except Gintae, which is definitely mutual and beautiful).

Kondou, who had spent the past two years taking care of Otae -- and she accepted his care, too -- who cares about that? Every one is a delta to omega. All for the sole purpose of linking Otae and Gintoki together -- two people who have not shared an intimate arc or even an intimate moment together since 2006, and have not expressed any fibre of romantic interest in each other. That's how Gintae will happen for real. Because of so subtle hints buried by Sorachi in the sand.

Have you ever tried giving Tarot readings? You can really scam your way to the top. No way will I ever have this kind of talent.

My tumblr has become like this. I threw it away to the garbage dump just to post your shit. You think I’m doing this because I want to be popular (what the fuck is this fcktard deduction lmao) or to LIE because i enjoy it (what the fuck)

I have far better things to do for my personal enjoyment. Eating, shopping and sleeping and even writing bad fanfics about fictional characters having sex are all better than thinking up “LIES” to frame you all. 

It’s ridiculous that you really think all of this is about destroying you, and that I’m some kind of evil crusader out to ruin your reputation. You don’t have any good rep in the first place, not the moment you set out with your loud-mouthed theatrics shitting on Tsukuyo, lying about her unpopularity, lying about Gintsuki’s unpopularity in comparison with Gintae, making shitty GIFs and childish insistence that everyone who does not see Gintae is a “hater”. 

I swear to Buddha. It would take Buddha himself to have any shred of patience with you.

So really, please get your shit out of my face once and for all.

[saitouh]

Gintaes, you made this GIF.

Your Gintae Month consisted of things like these, taking a Gintsuki line from the Love Incense Arc where Gintoki said to Tsukuyo, "I can't hit on you the usual way."

You heinously lumped Tsukuyo with the other girls, implying all of them (especially tsukuyo) to be INSIGNIFICANT, to prop up your own ship.

Why are you so desperate, Gintaes, to the point that the only way you could convince and delude yourselves and others into thinking that Gintae is "real", is by perpetuating the lie that Tsukuyo is UNIMPORTANT / NOT AS IMPORTANT to Gin?

Do you see me making GIFs of the times when Gintoki mocked Otae, put down her worth, or outright ignoring her when she was in the same room as him?

Do you see me writing shit and talking smack about Otae???? The way you mocked Tsukuyo's struggle with her feminine values??? Do you see me doing those things??

And you're still trying to act like blameless or secondary victims, yet continue to go around stalking me, harassing my friends, and making stupid and vile accusations lying about how I mock rape victims or send "death threats". I don't need to do those things. Unlike you all.

[saitouh]

takasugi: threw sword at otae to stop her from walking further

gintaes: TAKASUGI *LEFT* GIN'S BOKUTO TO TAE, WHY ISNT ANYONE TALKING ABOUT IT????

🤔🤔🤔

➡️ kondou has touched lake toya from waaaay in the beginning, used it, broken it (ginkon?)

➡️ kagura has tried to defend it, protected it (ginkag?)

➡️ hijikata held it, then threw it back at gin in the arc (remember the ginhijs spazzing? 🤪🤪)

➡️ shinpachi passed it to him in kyuubei's arc (ginshin, so many romantic connotations)

➡️ tsukuyo took it and passed it to gin during his fight with housen, have you seen us screaming about the significance when this arc was published? actually i don't even remember this happened lmfao you gintaes are fucking craaaaaazy

➡️ okita basically swallowed it. i guess that means gintoki really fucked him in the ass with it.

There have been many other times this bokuto was passed around. Gintaes, none of this means shit.

Honestly. You're crazy for thinking it does and something is up with your fucking reading comprehension because you ignore 99% of gintama ALL THE TIME and are seeing your "gintae" through some unicorn fart tinted glasses. Lmao

➡️ takasugi did not "leave" the sword with otae. you worded it as if he entrusted her or begged her to take it and that it is a huge deal. he threw it at her to keep her out. she can choose to go forward, however. lol.

Also, that infantile behaviour of yours in ridiculing shippers all the time by calling Kontaes “Kornytaes” and Gintsukis “Gintsuwus” really does make people want to take you seriously. Gasp. There isn't a single instance where anyone made fun of otae's or gintae's ship name. It's obvious who are the ones trying to start shit all the time.

[saitouh]

"WAH WE DON'T HATE TSUKUYO"  (but we call her Tskewyo, Sue, Tsjejjeyo)

Stop fcking lying and trying to play innocent, Gintaes. You’re shipping her with kondou WHOM YOU CALLED a "sexual predator". You didn’t call him a "stalker", but a "PREDATOR".

You made this tweet just several months ago. And you dare to deny that. “wah but he stopped and they became good friends!!~~~~” 

LMAO and you called him a sexual predator???

What woman deserves to be shipped with a PREDATOR? NONE. NO WOMAN DESERVES IT. 

Kondou is NOT a predator. You’re saying Hijikata and Sougo would actually SERVE a predator. That the police is led by a SEXUAL PREDATOR. This sexual predator is NOT good enough for Otae, but you try with every strength you could muster to justify shipping him with Tsukuyo, while at the same time calling him a PREDATOR.

Anything the guys did is okay! Hiji who turned around after making plenty of mistakes. Gin who sacrificed his friendship with takasugi and threw all "bonds" away to be alone, like he’s such a dark, lonesome hero. But he changed his mind later. Every one in the series is allowed to change their minds but fcking forbid if tsukuyo changed her mind about her femininity values.

You Gintaes CONSTANTLY seek ways to punch tsukuyo in the face, implying that she's a fcking "¯\_(ツ)_/¯¯" stupid betch who has NO RIGHT to question the decisions she have made for herself. NO RIGHT to second-think what he feminine values mean to her

So don’t even try to act innocent and accuse me of “framing” you

You sacks of shit

[saitouh]

It’s ironic that you are actually employing the insult that people are living in the stone age so unironically, that I’m going to throw back this very same line into your face: Are you living in the ice age? 

Like. I’m gobsmacked. I’m shaking with utter amusement at this hilarity. 

You didn’t know what OT3 means, and you still don’t, and you have proven that you don’t know what slut-shaming means. 

Here’s a fcking definition of OT3 for you, since you have willfully refused to use Google (is it very hard for you? To keep up with technology in this era?) 

OJQ, WHY WON’T YOU GOOGLE? TO THIS DAY WHY WON’T YOU GOOGLE?

OT3 = THREE WAY SEX. The lack of self-awareness and utter stupidity of someone like you leaving a fcking comment on a HINOWA, TSUKUYO AND SEITA art that has NOTHING to do with you on an innocent jp fanartist’s page. But ok, you insisted time and again you weren’t wrong for using this term. You’re utterly shameless. 

Scantily-clad does not mean “dressing sexy”, you reverberating fool. 

I don’t know what gave you the right to come up with your own definition of “SCANTILY CLAD”, but continue to blast off more stupidity out of your mouth. 

Tsukuyo = is almost naked, I see.

Tsukuyo = DrEsSiNG SEXY????? 

SEXY?????? IN THIS CLOTHING???? SHE HAD AN ARM OUT. A SLIT DOWN THE SIDE. “SEXY”???? SEXY????

ALMOST NAKED????? WHAT 

I’m going to ask u in return. ARE U LIVING IN THE FCKING ICE AGE? 

“DRESSING PROVOCATIVELY”???? ARE YOU A MINDLESS OTAKU? THIS??? THIS IS CONSIDERED “PROVOCATIVE”??? 

“NOTHING IN MY STATEMENT SUGGESTS THAT I THINK HER DRESSING IS INAPPROPRIATE” 

I can’t believe you had the nerve to say this outright.

I’m going to use the S word. Your stupidity could shorten anyone’s life span just by reading your shit. That is why I had to take 2384278 deep breaths to rejuvenate the oxygen I’ve lost since reading this whole garbage thread in September before answering you in full right now.

Listen carefully, OJQ. 

YOU BASICALLY MOCKED HER BY FIRST BRINGING HER FEMININITY INTO QUESTION AND SUMMARILY ATTACKED HER FOR BEING “SCANTILY-CLAD”, WHEN THE FACT IS THAT TSUKUYO IS NEITHER WEARING “SEXY” NOR PROVOCATIVE CLOTHING. 

NOR IS SHE “ALMOST NAKED” AS DEFINED BY THE DICTIONARIES OF WHAT “SCANTILY-CLAD” IS. 

IMMEDIATELY AFTER THAT, YOU CLAIMED THAT NOTHING IN YOUR “STATEMENT” SUGGESTED HER DRESSING IS APPROPRIATE.

WHAT THE FCK ARE YOU BLABBERING ABOUT, MADAM? JUST WHAT THE FCK ARE YOU GOING ON ABOUT? 

I’m going to use the S word again. 

The entirety of this tweet is soaked with stupidity, and spitefulness simply because she’s a threat to your SHIP. 

You attacked a woman for her femininity, her grappling with her femininity, her womanhood, and you judged her for HER CLOTHING, HER MAKEUP, HER CHOICE OF SHOEWEAR. Your level of cognitive dissonance is staggering. I’m fcking disgusted. But okay, go off.

She’s showing thighs. She has two arms out. But of course not a single Gintae like you would find Sacchan’s clothing problematic, and none of you would ever, ever call find fault with her clothing and call her “scantily-clad”, because she factually isn’t a threat to you, Gintaes. 

And IF, IF one day poor Sacchan happens to struggle with her womanhood or femininity like Tsukuyo does, all of you would erupt immediately with disingenuous coos of sympathy. 

TSUKUYO, THOUGH. (Because actual women has NEVER wavered in issues with their self-worth, not even once, AMIRITE???)

I simply have never seen such a high-level of denial coming from anyone before you. “Projecting their distorted perceptions about Sue on us”

Sue is actually a great name, OJQ, but Sue is not Tsukuyo, you dumb bitch. Do you ever see me calling Otae by any other name than Otae or Tae? 

And Holy shit, Buddha would smack you on the head with a plank. You have no sense of awareness whatsoever. 

I repeat. You slut-shamed Tsukuyo, using definitions YOU MADE UP on the fly to defend your weak-ass argument, yet in the end, those ‘definitions’ don’t even apply to what you were trying to claim they mean. 

And now, after making ALL those shit accusations on Tsukuyo, you turn it around and act like you were blamed?

WHAT THE FCK? Your ego is sooo massive that it automatically repudiates your fcked-up actions in the middle of a contradictory defense, by shifting the blame to Gintsuki fans????  WHAT THE FCK! 

You’re an utter embarrassment. You’re foaming at the mouth and blabbing without knowing a fck you are talking about. For the love of Buddha and all living animals, check the meaning of SLUT-SHAMING again. 

There’s honestly something wrong with you since you refuse to do something as basic as GOOGLING. You’re like one of those people who live under their own little rocks. 

Saigo IS BOTH a man and a woman. MAKEUP DOES NOT CHANGE WHO HE IS. In the same vein, Tsukuyo wearing makeup does NOT change who she is. Whether she is struggling with her femininity, whether she tries to throw her womanhood away is UTTERLY IRRELEVANT to whether she wears makeup or not. WHY THE FCK ARE YOU SO INSISTENT TO ASSOCIATE MAKEUP WITH WOMEN SO BADLY? I’m going to ask you again, ARE YOU STILL LIVING IN THE ICE AGE???? 

I said this before, I’m going to repeat it --- Tsukuyo had expressly REFUSED to wear makeup when Gintoki visited. This pig, Gintoki, in turn called her “dull” because of her choice. Without missing a beat, without getting hurt in the process by his inconsiderate words, she attacked him where it hurt the most -- his hair. YOU, a woman, YOU ARE attacking her for WHAT EXACTLY?

Makeup is NOT JUST A FORM OF EXPRESSING FEMININITY. Gintama has explicitly rehashed the topic of gender and gender roles again and again, yet you still fail to understand such a basic concept. I’m going to ask you again, ARE YOU STILL LIVING IN THE ICE AGE???? 

OH I SEE. NOW THE DEFENSE HAS SHIFTED TO “WE ARE DISCUSSING FICTIONAL CHARACTERS HERE”. WAIT FOR IT. IF YOU GUYS THOUGHT THE BEST IS OVER, YOU ARE WRONG. IT GETS BETTER! 

“Shipping an 18 yo with her sexual predator”

If you mean Kondou, I want to know how is he a sexual predator. 

My friend here answered this best, so make sure you fucking read it.

Seriously. DO YOU ACTUALLY THINK THE WHOLE LOT OF SHINSENGUMI GUYS WOULD STAND BY KONDOU IF HE IS A SEXUAL PREDATOR?

DO YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE HIJIKATA WOULD RISK HIS LIFE FOR A SEXUAL PREDATOR? THAT HE WORSHIPS A SEXUAL PREDATOR? HIJIKATA??? YOU THINK THAT HE WOULD DEFEND A SEXUAL PREDATOR? 

OTAE? SHE WOULD DEFEND A SEXUAL PREDATOR??? PUT HER NECK OUT FOR HIM??? KONDOU??? 

Just what the FCK are you going about, madam ice age? 

Otae is not a fcking idiot. She will not shed a tear for someone who isn’t worth it. She has beaten up Gintoki for leeching Tama’s hard-earned wages. She has gone head to head with Yakuza gang members. The shinsengumi boys are in fear and awe of her. YOU THINK OTAE WOULD RISK HER LIFE FOR A SEXUAL PREDATOR??? WHAT THE FCK?!

Also, Otae is 20 years old now. NOT 18. Get the age of your fucking fave girl right.

“Get off the high moral ground. You’re the one who uses the R word to insult people”

I don’t see any moral ground, OJQ. There are only either decency or stupidity. Decency is not using any offensive word on innocents, or people who actually matter. NGAF means I would use words like stupid, dumbfcks, fcktards, bitches and even FCK YOU to insult people like you. 

“It’s you and your people who send death threats”

Where the fck have I ever SENT death threats? You bitches keep repeating this lie. DO YOU MEAN THE TWEETS YOU ALL HAVE CAPPED ME AND POSTED THEM MONTHS AGO? You call those ‘death threats’ ??? The tweets are still up there. I have NOT deleted them. They are properly dated. Go and re-read them again. I want to know in what capacity, shape or form those DEATH THREATS. Did I say, “GO AND DIE, KILL YOURSELF, I WILL KILL YOU, I WILL STRANGLE YOU TO DEATH” 

?????

DID I SAY THAT? 

I never said any of those things. All I said was, I wished you would break your fingers so you could STOP typing bullshit. BUT OKAY, TO YOU, THIS IS A DEATH THREAT! 

Like, why the fck am I surprised, since defending Tsukuyo in a fcking scene that didn’t happen apparently meant that I was mocking rape victims.

Or are you going to invoke the example where you or your friends blackmailed me???? “STOP POSTING OR I AM GOING TO SLASH MY WRIST” That’s what you guys did. A year later, I’m still in shock at this vile tactic. 

Fandom, you honestly went that far.

But honestly, considering that people like you have no fcking clue what slut-shaming or something as basic as OT3 is, I wouldn’t be surprised that you don’t even know what DEATH THREATS are.

“ATTACKING PEOPLE’S PERSONAL LIVES” 

You mean when your gang attacked a Gintsuki shipper and laughed at her, calling her a whore? You mean when you ridiculed her for dropping out of college? You mean when some of you shit on other people’s feelings while putting your own needs ahead of theirs? Out of consideration for my friends and their fear of getting mobbed again, there are many caps I HAVE NOT posted up. 

You keep saying I am on some moral high ground. Please. Why do you see me as such? Please don’t confuse me with someone who sees herself as a saint because I sure as hell don’t see myself as one. If not I would not even be using the B word and throw it around on you bitches so generously. 

And here we are at the end of this saga. “TSUKUYO IS A WORK OF FICTION!!! BUT GINSUES HAVE BEEN INSULTING TAE SINCE 2009!!!”

Lmao. Gintsukis??? Do you know them by name? Have you confronted them like a woman? Have I insulted Otae? Have my friends insulted Otae? I know most of you all your usernames because you bitches wouldn’t stop insulting Tsukuyo since 2011. Have we insulted Otae? Name us pls?

You don’t go berserk about Gintae and Otae? You don’t??? Are you sure??? 

Please, OJQ. Everyone sees what your fandom does. Everyone sees you throwing tantrums everywhere. On Facebook, on Reddit, Tumblr, and Twitter. You even go around trying to shove Gintae into people’s throats with the most asinine of theories and I have not once written shit about Otae but your whole lot have continued to harass Gintsuki fanartists, general fans with your perpetual BS.

This entire tweet is full of hypocrisy and stupidity, I don’t even have the energy. 

Apparently only YOU are allowed to do whatever you want to Tsukuyo, but other people aren’t allowed to criticize Otae. 

Do you even read what you have written? Because I’m going to use your same lines and throw them back in your face.

Otae doesn’t belong to you people. Fans are allowed to discuss her character whenever and however they want. Otae is FICTIONAL. 

If your lot calls Tsukuyo WEAK (untrue), and makes up continual shit for saying she forces her feelings onto Gintoki (lmao she doesn’t), then you can put up with people calling Otae violent (because this is at least true).

[saitouh]

why am i repeating another post? because some gintae fckers keep repeating their constant war-mongering behaviour. you’ve been amping up your shit for the entirety of this year when NO ONE on tumblr has bothered with you for years.

i made a post about the old gintama poster sorachi drew in 2016, and you wouldn’t stop talking about it for 3 whole weeks. i made a post about gintsuki events and menu items? u posted a tae food item and then mislabelled it as a “gintae” item. lmao. why are you trying so hard to "one-up" us? (and failing miserably)????

why is tsukuyo such a threat to you 24/7 if u find her so irrelevant? why are we such a threat to you if you claim most of japanese fans dislike her and gintsuki? why are you so salty when japanese artists popped 1947836 arts of tsukuyo’s new hairstyle the week the chapter dropped???

we told u more than once to stop bashing tsukuyo, but u kept going. and u keep stalking ME. what are u trying to find? receipts that i hate tae? sucks to be u, u can go back 7 years on my blog and you won’t find a single shit about me badmouthing otae, unlike aero aka gintamajustaway who shits on tsukuyo constantly since she was "11 years old" and disguises her insults as “objective” criticisms and then pretends she doesn’t shit on tsukuyo.

do u really think tsukki wants gin? do u not understand what u have read in this manga? hinowa is the one who told her to go for it, kyuubei told her it’s okay, too. but tsukuyo herself DOESN’T want to go for gin. she doesn’t want anything from him, either. she’s okay with helping him quietly without wanting anything in return. it’s sorachi himself who wrote all these things for our ship. for us. not for you.

gin is the one who finds tsukuyo attractive, he’s the one who groped her multiple times, he’s the one who told her that her face is beautiful with a scarless soul, he’s the one who told her that he would be hers and hers alone, if only she desires him to. she replied NO, ok? she said no. but then what? then he continued to come on very strongly onto her. he said he couldn’t hit on her like how he usually does to other girls because she is the one he really cares about. he said it to her and no one else.

but u’re all so butt-devastated u make up scenarios to comfort yourselves, and make up nasty gifs to belittle tsukuyo in gintoki’s life – IN YOUR OWN FCKING GINTAE WEEK. what kind of stupid, vile bitch does this?

you said you can’t even read or watch red spider because it hurts you. that’s fine. you like your ship. ok? no one blames you for hurting. and honestly that’s OK. but bitching at tsukuyo and her fans is a shit response to your hurt feelings. you should bitch at sorachi. blame him. we have NOTHING to do with u and want NOTHING to do with you.

u ppl sent asks to artists on tumblr who drew gintsuki, as recent as a few months ago. u fcking harassed them and insulted tsukuyo, u said she “brings” gin down, and in the same breath u said otae is better for gin instead, insinuating that gintae is the “power couple”. a great majority of people had seen this happening with their own two eyes so don’t you fcking deny it.

and that OT3 comment - LMAO - is a glorious example of how disgusting you guys are.

gintsuki arts have NOTHING to do with you. you don’t even have the basic decency to leave other people alone to enjoy their arts. you think i’m attacking you because of your ship? i’m whipping u out because of your behaviour.

don’t you dare to complain about reddit/facebook “bullies” for merely saying they don’t like your ship. ALL SHIPPERS GO THROUGH THIS. there’s a point in every shipper’s life where someone will tell us they don’t like our ship. you are not special. don’t use this as an excuse to target gintsuki and tsukuyo just because she is the biggest threat to your ship. and if she really isn’t a threat like you claim, then stop mentioning her altogether. disliking something like a normal person is not the same as constantly and obsessively BITCHING about tsukuyo for years on end.

and i’m warning you firsthand– don’t you dare to post a flurry of "b-but ginsues 😭😭😭"right after this post. don't u dare try to have a bunch of anons suddenly flocking to you right after this post of mine just to “prove” that “gintsuki fans so attack gintaes metas/art” to justify your shitty past and current behaviour. because i will know you sent them to yourselves.

i repeat. our ship has NOTHING to do with u, we have NOTHING to do with u and we want NOTHING to do with you. so in my most straightforward self to you - FCK OFF, stay fcked or whatever. go read my previous posts about you and then fck off again.