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Had a very successful magma with some buds

When I was making the previous post involving this chapter/scene it was close to the time when I'd have to go to work, so I forgot to include this last follow-up line at the time, but I also wanted to mention it as another example of what I meant about Dark Horse's translations sometimes being way too literal. The terms that seem to have confused them here are "外道" (gedou) and "味" (aji). Gedou originally means someone or something outside of buddhist teachings, but in general it means to be immoral or heretical, to be a scumbag or a demon or a corrupt person spiritually. It's not strictly religious in modern usage, it's often used in a general sense. I think they took this so literally because the individual kanji are the ones for "outside" and "path/road", but being a gedou is more about going down a spiritually incorrect path rather than a literal outside road, and the term isn't referring to the path itself but rather the person on that hypothetical path. DH also seemingly took "aji" to mean literal taste here, and while it does mean taste it's not always a physical taste. It can also mean the essence or nature of something that makes it uniquely itself.

What Wolfwood is basically saying here is that "a wicked/rotten person will have the nature (taste) of a wicked/rotten person until they die." This is pretty much his concluding statement about humans not changing. Their past ensnares them and becomes an intrinsic part of who they are, so much so that trying to break free of that would destroy them, so evil people stay evil because it's in their nature. It's his way of saying the Gung-Ho Guns (himself included), and to a greater extent much of humanity, are a lost cause because he's in cynical sassy butthole mode. The pyramids are on the horizon and Wolfwood's ankles are getting so very wet.

Also in this page at the end of this chapter:

The original meaning/joke gets pretty lost, which is a shame because I think it's a cute Milly moment lol. The original Japanese is:

Milly: "トマッ!!! はいんないっス!! Meryl: "おいてお行きなさいミリィ!!" Jessica: "ウラに小屋がありますんでミリィさん!!" Milly: "大丈夫ですか？お腹すかせたりしませんか？トイレはうんこはおしっこは？" Jessica: "全部揃ってますから!!" Milly: "ウヒョーホントだ先輩見てみて五ッ星ですよ!!" Meryl: "ミリィ！！バタバタ走らない!!"

Here's how I might translate it:

Milly: "The toma! They won't go inside!" Meryl: "Just leave them behind Milly!" Jessica: "There's a stable around the back miss Milly!" Milly: "Will they be okay there? What if they get hungry? Is there a bathroom? What if they have to go pee or poo?" Jessica: "They'll have everything they need!" Milly: "Really? Woohoo! Check it out ma'am! Looks like they'll get to stay at a five star hotel!" Meryl: "Milly! Settle down!"

The joke is Milly trying and failing to bring the toma along in the gondola, then stressing over leaving them behind, ending with her comparing the stable they get left in to five star accommodations (the term Jessica used is "小屋" which can mean shack or hut but would mean something closer to an animal pen, like a stable, in this context). I'm not entirely sure where DH got the "all over" or "throw up" parts and they left out or missed the "five star" joke entirely.

Also hilariously enough these are the toma that belonged to Jessie, so I guess Milly just straight up took them with her for emotional support, only to leave them in a stable behind the haunted mansion-ass gondola station anyway lmfao.

#Trigun #Trigun Maximum #nicholas d. wolfwood #Long post #milly thompson #manga thoughts #translation woes #the Overhaul version of Wolfwood's line got a little bit closer to the original ''something that doesn't change'' meaning #though imo it still isn't super clear that he's talking about the nature of humans specifically being the thing that doesn't change #and it also takes the ''road'' part a bit too literally too #Whether they based that line on the Dark Horse version or the original Japanese I can't say for sure #but I'm pretty sure they based the final page of the chapter with Milly and the toma entirely on the Dark Horse translation #cause the OH version of that page is mostly the same as the DH version with the exact same mistakes #but anyway this arc has had some very juicy character insight for both Vash and Wolfwood in Japanese lol #Vash: humans can change for the better and that includes you #Wolfwood: sounds fake but okay #Milly would be that person who brings 10 cats home and hides them in the closet #and like 5 of them would already have collars #post trimax fic where Meryl recruits Vash to help her smuggle Kuroneko into Meryl's apartment without Meryl finding out #and then Milly tries to smuggle Vash in there too #they can live in the closet it's very roomy

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