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The Rats: A Witcher Tale (2025)

[rav9n-16]

I just finished season 4 of The Witcher soo

I really liked them 😭 the movie was so good

( Please tag me if you make one )

[setrija-nibelungenfangirl]

Siegfried hatte ein rotes Haar – Bertolt Brecht

1. Siegfried hatte ein rotes Haar Und Hagen Tronje liebte ihn sehr Und Siegfried wußte, was Hagen Tronje war – Aber da war noch Giselher.

2. Gunther sagte dem Hagen Tronje oft: Siegfried liebt man. Da lachte er Und stand eines Tages im Gras, unverhofft Und schlug in Siegfrieds Nacken einen Eschenspeer.

3. Hagen Tronje blieb drei Tage bleich Und trank sich durch die lange Nacht Denn er dachte an Gunther und Giselher immer zugleich Und er hätte lieber nur an Gunther gedacht.

4. Aber am vierten Morgen kam Giselher selber zu ihm hin Und brach das Brot mit ihm und aß von seinem Salz Und sprach von Weibern und Pferden mit dem Kinn. Da ging dem Hagen Tronje wild der Wind an seinen Hals.

Bertolt Brecht: Große kommentierte Berliner und Frankfurter Ausgabe. Hrsg. von Werner Hecht, Jan Knopf, Werner Mittenzwei, Klaus-Detlef Müller. Bd. 13. Gedichte 3. Gedichte und Gedichtfragmente 1913-1927. Berlin und Weimar / Frankfurt am Main 1993, S. 255f., S. 492.

[astaldis]

The Rats or Witcher S4 first?

As I've seen this question popping up, I watched S4 first and just began watching The Rats spin off and I'd definitely recommend watching The Rats after S4 because it starts where S4 left off with Ciri's story line and then seems to tell the Rats story as Leo Bonhart's flashback.

[cardmeisters]

I started The Witcher for Ben and his character, but mainly stayed for Radsieker. Now my favourite characters are Jaskier, Radovid, Cahir and Giselher!

Might be obsessed with Radskier, the complexity of their characters and the tension between them. I didn’t know about their story and when I saw Radovid reacting to Jaskier, I knew that something would happen and oh my, I love the tragic gays.

Ben did an incredible job portraying Gis and I just love the rats so much. They’re such a sweet found family.

I know that Cahir wasn’t all good in the beginning, but I've always really liked him. I was always worried that he might die at any time which he gladly didn’t do so far.

[vellgawolf]

Im so glad theyre not scared of dying, Im sure that made it a lot easier at the end of season 4!

I love Iskra and Giselher, the scene in “The Rats” movie where Giselhers friend tells her “Ive shown that boy all the pleasure in the world and nothing turns his head. He sure breaks his neck looking at you, though” melted me from the inside out. They are so sweet, honestly somehow theyre one of the sweetest couples the witcher ever gave us. Live laugh love giskra. They deserved so much better.

I personally headcanon iskra as bisexual and Giselher as grayromantic and asexual! These two were pure romance.

[theyearofrisinglight]

I think I'm in the minority of minorities on this but I actually like the Rats from The Witcher 🥴 like idc how cliche or whatever the justifications for they being fxcked up are I do feel bad for them regardless. Like Mistle was tw: gang raped, Asse saw his sister and mother raped in front of him and his saw his dad violently butchered... Their stories show how psychologically damaging and traumatic war can be to children and teens and how disastrous all that unaddressed trauma can be left without tending to and how in the name of imperialism and conquest and protection of traditions and assets and lands and all the reason these kingdoms went to war, they ruined the most valuable resource they have, their people. Their tragic lives further show how not one army or the other is the true evil, how some of the soldiers don't lose their decency or humanity despite being forced to do evil. That those in power don't give af about their citizens and never think of them most of the time. Yeah, seeing Ciri become Falka is transgressive and she becomes fully corrupted and a child of contempt but she also learns to see the world through the eyes of the common people, she makes friends with people her age, no matter how damaged they are, which she hadn't up until that point except when she was very little. People take the fact that those townspeople are afraid of them but they aren't decent themselves anyways. Remember how that one dad beats up his daughter just bc she was trying to copy Iskra's aesthetic? There's no justification for child abuse, either. The Witcher books beat you over the head with the “all people, elves, dwarves, halflings etc etc., generally suck but some do so less than others” message. It depends on you who those happen to be. And I do find it an interesting contrast of how Ciri has to confront her actions when she was with them when she spends time with Vysogota. Idk I probably suck at explaining why I don't hate the Rats and like I said from what I see from other Witcher fans I'm practically alone in this but I don't hate them and no matter how bad they were they didn't deserve the fate Bonhart have them. Like fuck that murderous boomer! Anyways I had to get this off my chest bc it really pains me to see all the Rats libel and I hope netflix knows how to tackle this part and make it justice, at least for my murderous but LESS problematic thieves Giselher, Asse, Iskra, and Reef. Idgaf about Mistle (unless they fully remove THAT) and Kayleigh can croak idc.

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The Rats: A Witcher Tale (2025)